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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #90 on: April 16, 2018, 03:06:25 PM »
 

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You are almost right ;) but also quite wrong... ;)
I also though Krita was limited in layers... in fact their system is just different and brilliant, with a hierarchical masking and effects, maybe a few effects less.
The point where you are completely right though is that its an artsy drawing/painting/illustrator dream machine. Easier to user than he competition.
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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #91 on: April 22, 2018, 07:04:43 AM »
 

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I'm with those who say keep it light and simple, and let the user install whatever extra software (s)he wishes.  Keep it light!

My one real concern with anything based on Ubu 18.04 is going to be the new "data collection" feature.  Presumably can be disabled in the installer, but it's on by default.

Can anyone expand on this worrying point: "anything based on Ubu 18.04 is going to be the new "data collection" feature" !!
Where can we find more info - links to sources?

If LL is in danger of becoming part of a stasi-like operation (and I'm not saying it is) then, as the saying goes, "I'm outta here".
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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #92 on: April 22, 2018, 07:08:01 AM »
 

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Let me put it this way, if LL starts data collecting, I'm outta here. It's 'not on by default' because it's not even on, PERIOD.
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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #93 on: April 22, 2018, 07:34:05 AM »
 

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Let me put it this way, if LL starts data collecting, I'm outta here. It's 'not on by default' because it's not even on, PERIOD.

Thanks Jerry - that looks pretty definite! :)
I do recall your post (ages ago) where you said you take just a bare 40mb (whatever the tech terms are) from Canonical and build LL on that, so presumably you can surgically remove any such data-collection code which might be in there in the future.
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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #94 on: April 22, 2018, 07:35:36 AM »
 

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...so presumably you can surgically remove any such data-collection code which might be in there in the future.


That's exactly what I do.
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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #95 on: April 22, 2018, 07:40:04 AM »
 

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That data collection thing is over blown anyway. It's opt-in so if you don't want to send info, it won't. People should really only complain about it if it was hardcoded and/or hidden and there was no way out of it.
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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #96 on: April 22, 2018, 08:10:44 AM »
 

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Back to LL 4.0 suggestions...

1) could something be done towards external monitor plug-play? With MS Win 7 (and presumably 10) we can grab our laptops, unplug, everything is auto-reset to built-in display. Ditto when we re-connect to ext. monitor.

2) there's some discussion above re what to provide by default in LL download.

I wonder could thoughts turn to a menu of downloads, eg starting with "Light Linux Lite" for the basic home user - browser / email / photo manage / Writer / Calc / (there's more in LibreOffice, but buttons the for latter two) Backup / Updates / (other?) - these given with large icons/"button" on desktop. Might attract first computer users too, attractive for teachers in communities etc.

Of course all the repo/Lite software will be accessible too, if wanted later.

Maybe not for 4.0, but future?
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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #97 on: April 27, 2018, 05:36:00 PM »
 

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I tried v4.0 beta . I cannot install systemback. I find it useful and simple to create live cd
Please put it back. The new version is useless to me. Thanks
 

Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #98 on: April 27, 2018, 08:44:02 PM »
 

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I tried v4.0 beta . I cannot install systemback. I find it useful and simple to create live cd
Please put it back. The new version is useless to me. Thanks
The maker of SystemBack has discontinued "* DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORT ENDED *"
https://launchpad.net/systemback
https://launchpad.net/~nemh/+archive/ubuntu/systemback

You can find threads within in the forum... It was a really useful tool... Timeshift replaces Systemback functionality in LL4.x
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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #99 on: May 08, 2018, 11:41:15 PM »
 

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Thread closed for suggestions. Thank you to everyone who came up with ideas!

Suggestions that made it in:

- KeepPassXC (Lite Software)
- HandBrake (Lite Software)
- Move ~/.conky folder - now in /etc/conky-lite for easy update/bug fixes
- Make a very simple edit to an image for the first time e.g. simple rotation, crop or resize - Shotwell is the new image viewer
- Replace the startup Boot Splash screen - Done
- Faenza icons replaced with Papirus

Thanks folks :)

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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #100 on: May 09, 2018, 10:34:12 AM »
 

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Goody goody, will we have a Beta2 or RC before Final? :D

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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #101 on: May 09, 2018, 08:21:01 PM »
 

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Woohoo!  ;D Thanks! Great news. Thank you for keeping us updated on the changes. Thrilled that we as a community have had the chance to offer suggestions. This is exciting, very much looking forward to installing and using LL 4.0.
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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #102 on: May 10, 2018, 01:57:22 AM »
 

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Thrilled that we as a community have had the chance to offer suggestions.

You always will :)
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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #103 on: May 10, 2018, 01:58:16 AM »
 

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Goody goody, will we have a Beta2 or RC before Final? :D

Cheers!

By the looks, the Beta is pretty solid. Traditionally we only do a Beta, then Final. My goal is to always make a Beta as solid as possible.
Last Edit: May 11, 2018, 12:36:42 AM by Jerry
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Re: Linux Lite 4.0 Suggestions welcomed
« Reply #104 on: May 10, 2018, 03:48:00 PM »
 

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Hi, I'd like to point out a problem that all new Windows users migrating to LL for the first time will face. This is literally just about every user, unless they deal with no image files ever. Here it is:

What are we (the LL community) expecting ex-Windows users to do on a fresh LL install when they need to make a very simple edit to an image for the first time (e.g. simple rotation, crop or resize)? This can happen quite early on in their LL usage, when they're still not-so-familiar with the system.

With a current fresh LL installation, if you have just switched over from Windows, those users will be storing their vacation pics, family pics, whatever, under the Pictures folder in their linux home directory, just like they did in Windows - so far, so good. Then they decide to resize a few of them to send to grandma via email (who doesn't do social media), or just need a simple crop or rotate. What are we expecting these users to do?

They could click on the image to open it, and find out that, oh, I can only VIEW it that way. I can't DO anything to it.

By contrast, in Windows, as far as I'm aware (correct me if I'm wrong), you can do simple crops and rotations and resize without expecting the user to actually open Photoshop.

Likewise, I feel that in LL 4.0 there should be a way to do that, which:

  • comes pre-bundled in the LL 4.0 release (i.e. does not require a download from Synaptic Package Manager)
  • is user-friendly and modern-looking
  • does not require the user to open Gimp. That would be like expecting a Windows user to open Photoshop every time they want to just crop or resize.

I realize we can't expect to predict every eventuality that every Windows user might want, but it seems to me that this (simple image edits) would be a fairly reasonable expectation by ex-Windows users.

I agree with Vera, GIMP can be kind of scary  ;D for a newbie that comes from Windoze where he rotated/cropped pictures using M$-Paint.
 


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