I just bought me some Linux Lite swag, just to show my support for the project.  I wonder if I'll meet anyone at school who will recognize the logo on my new teeshirt!

As modern development focuses more and more on security, while users are less and less technically informed about security in general, most of what non-technically adept users read on the Web is a vast tangled ego fertilized vine garden of fallacy. So much of security improvements these days seem to focus on issues of no common utility/importance/necessity whatsoever to Mom/Pop/Family home computer users. Keep It Simple Stupid is evolving more and more toward Keep It Secret Stupid for the everyday home computer user. The frenetic pace of development these days, and the huge amount of fallacious opinion that is generated by it, casts such a veil of obscurity over the Linux development world that ordinary users cannot even selectively support specific development endeavors because they cannot grasp what it is is that they need/want/trust for their own daily computer use. The link below leads to one of the better assessments of some of the common fallacies discussed concerning network transparency and X.

https://arcan-fe.com/2018/11/16/the-x-ne...ency-myth/
TC

===========================
Install Updates Error log
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Install Updates could not fetch the package cache information lists.
Go to https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/ and paste the log below into a new or existing thread for assistance.

============ Log ===========

Ign:1 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
Hit:2 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease
Get:3 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable Release [943 B]
Hit:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease
Hit:5 http://ppa.launchpad.net/otto-kesselgulasch/gimp/ubuntu bionic InRelease
Hit:6 http://repo.linuxliteos.com/linuxlite diamond InRelease
Get:7 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease [88.7 kB]
Get:8 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable Release.gpg [819 B]
Hit:9 http://ppa.launchpad.net/teejee2008/ppa/ubuntu bionic InRelease
Get:10 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates InRelease [88.7 kB]
Get:11 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-backports InRelease [74.6 kB]
Ign:8 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable Release.gpg
Reading package lists...
W: GPG error: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6494C6D6997C215E
E: The repository 'http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable Release' is not signed.

Hello,
I have used LL 3.8 32bit for some time without a problem, it is installed on an old Latitude D420 with 2GB RAM and a 160GB hard drive.
Recently I received notification that updates were available and installed them as usual without a noticeable change.
When I rebooted the next day, the usual options screen appeared and timed out, I then got the following:

Booting linux lite 3.8 (sda1)
(hd0.0)
[Linux-bzImage,setup=0x4200,size=0x6a16a0]

This screen remained for approx 8 minutes with the drive light illuminated continually. The normal, scrolling, boot up screen then followed and the desktop appeared. The system works perfectly.
I tried autoremove and update-grub with no success and I have to admit I'm stumped.
Please, can anyone throw some lite on the situation?

I set up a donated Asus (i7; 64 bit; RAM 6GB) for a youth and while I always check the USB ports, WiFi and speaker sound, I did not check that the audio jack for a headset was working.  I only discovered this once the youth was checking it out.
So the issue is that 2 USB ports and the audio jack all on the same side (close to each other if that is important) do not work.

I cannot say if the USB ports and audio jack worked initially when it was running Windows 7 as I don't recall trying it out before switching it to LL 3.8

The USB port on the opposite side of the laptop WORKS and the non-working ports don't seem "loose" or "appear" damaged.  Since the audio jack doesn't work (However speaker sound does work) I wondered how I might investigate what might solve the issue if there is a fix.

I wondered if the "check for drivers" was the first step?

Any thoughts? 

Hi Guys,

I know this is WAAAY off topic, but I imagine it would be of interest.

Not sure if anyone here can offer expert comment, but of course any debate is welcome!

[move]Hackers on the other side of the world can take control of your vehicle[/move]


https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2...841847001/




P.S. I can't view what appears to be the first video in the article, but on watching the second, further down, I have to conclude this is absolutely real.

Linux Lite runs OK on my Windows PC, but fails when I try run it on a Linux Laptop.
The laptop has Linux Mint MATE installed.
Grub does not see Linux Lite, only Linux Mint.

Laptop is an Acer Aspire One725, AMD Dual Core C70 1.3GHz, 4GM RAM
USB Stick is 8GB

Linux Mint Live boots OK all versions

So I got this problem when trying to do

As it looks like no one has tried F-Prot AV, I'm trying to be the guinea pig.

I've discovered that LL comes with Perl v5.26.1 already installed, but who would have guessed that this is a much later version than v5.8?  I don't get that.

Anyway, I have succeeded in downloading the FP for Linux tarball, and extracting the files into /opt/f-prot as recommended.

The install instructions simply say:

Quote:cd /opt/f-prot/
./install-f-prot.pl

Quote:Unquoted string "mailtools" may clash with future reserved word at install-f-prot.pl line 199.
"my" variable $paths masks earlier declaration in same scope at install-f-prot.pl line 500.
"my" variable @m masks earlier declaration in same scope at install-f-prot.pl line 698.
"my" variable $prog masks earlier declaration in same scope at install-f-prot.pl line 793.
Name "main::mailtools" used only once: possible typo at install-f-prot.pl line 199.
Name "Term::ReadLine::new" used only once: possible typo at install-f-prot.pl line 1166.
Name "Term::ReadLine::ornaments" used only once: possible typo at install-f-prot.pl line 1165.
Name "Term::ReadLine::readline" used only once: possible typo at install-f-prot.pl line 1167.
Use of uninitialized value $ENV{"MANPATH"} in split at install-f-prot.pl line 255.


  © FRISK Software International

  http://www.f-prot.com/

  You are about to install F-PROT Antivirus for Linux Workstations
    on a Debian Linux 4.15.0 running on x86_64 into the '/opt/f-prot'
  directory


Would you like to have a wrapper script created for fpscan.
If you choose 'no' a symbolic link will be created instead, you should consider this if the wrapper script does not work for you, for example due to your system using a non sh or csh compatible shell.?
(Just press Enter to accept the default) [Y/n]:

Hi All,

I know there have been endless discussions here about the pros and cons of AV. Regardless,  I have a compelling reason for needing an AV - and this may affect many of us.

My first Linux Lite project is to replace the slow, tired old W7 laptop that I've been using for Internet banking.  I've used F-Prot for Windows on it for years without issues or incident (despite the fact that the application also hasn't been updated for years).  It gets very frequent virus definition updates, often several per hour, so that must count for something, though how effective it really is, I don't know.

Banks are generally risk averse, and my bank seems to be at the upper end of that.  Their Terms and Conditions state the following as a Breach:

• You have used a computer or device that doesn’t have an up-to-date operating system installed for Internet Banking ... ; or that doesn’t have up-to-date anti-virus software installed for Internet Banking.