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Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2019, 02:12:22 PM »
 

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@Moltke sorry, but I don't want to spend time in this thread troubleshooting KDE installations. Take a look at the Arch KDE Wiki, it's very good.
 


Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2019, 02:16:10 PM »
 

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We must also face one assumption, which is, either with or without KDE, Lite at now is probably not going to be a 'number one' Linux distribution in any seizable future. It is the matter of doing things not only efficiently, but also with self respect - the respect of own time. It is not about being just good enough, it is about being reasonable altogether.
 

Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2019, 02:19:36 PM »
 

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KDE is a playground of customizations. If you don't know your way around, you might run into problems. It requires a rethinking of the LL users. Many things are hot differently and work differently. I'm sick of Xfce.  ;)
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Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2019, 02:22:49 PM »
 

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The only real reason to change, is to satisfy the craving, but worse if there comes the regret.
 

Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2019, 02:58:51 PM »
 

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I'm not a DE follower, I tried different ones early on but why I stuck with LL and XFCE... Not only speed but stability. Other distro's running XFCE didn't seem as stable, or just worked out of the box.


Its technology - one has to stay informed, one needs to trial similar/competitive software. XFCE may have also seen this and may answer back with better performance of their own or more eye candy/features or they don't - but who does that benefit?


What about the what if's - What if XFCE went away? testing now - saves for the future.


I'm sure before anything became more than the idea, We would see a 2nd DE along side what LL is today, a trial/beta and even as it became a stable release it would coexist for at least a series to be adopted by all... (my assumption)


Change is inevitable..
The only real reason to change, is to satisfy the craving, but worse if there comes the regret.


No its not, change is for growth, additional features, make a new path from the old...
- What if FAT never grew/changed No FAT32 or EXT3/4, XFS, BTRF or NTFS - we'd be satisfied with small partitions.
Have to the goods with the bads -- Will there be work?, of course there will...
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Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2019, 04:33:35 PM »
 

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@Moltke sorry, but I don't want to spend time in this thread troubleshooting KDE installations. Take a look at the Arch KDE Wiki, it's very good.

@Jerry It's ok, I understand. I wasn't really asking as much for assistance but more like sharing. I have, that is how I learnt how to preview the theme ;D but haven't seen how to solve that ... yet. I want to say that I totally support this initiative, idea.  I love XFCE, it just works and it can be tweaked to run even smoother. Also, it doesn't take more than 10 mins to do basic customizations like keyboard shortcuts which in KDE I find kind of overwhelming; it seems that every key-combo is already in used for something else lol and since I'm not sure what changing that will do I leave it as it is, that being said, I think it's a good decision that you think on the future, the present is brilliant so why limit ourselves with so many posibilities denying the chance for improvement? I'd like to ask your opinion about kwin performance when compared to xfwm4.
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Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2019, 08:07:29 PM »
 

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I'd like to ask your opinion about kwin performance when compared to xfwm4.


I don't have one yet, it's still early days. First impressions are that I don't see much of a difference.
 

Re: XFCE vs KDE
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Gotta say, I'm not a big fan of the KDE Menu. Too much clicking. So I installed this one...

 

Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2019, 09:24:41 PM »
 

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Oh my...



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Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2019, 09:27:46 PM »
 

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« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2019, 10:16:41 PM »
 

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I'd like to ask your opinion about kwin performance when compared to xfwm4.


I don't have one yet, it's still early days. First impressions are that I don't see much of a difference.

Yeah, I feel the same. 371mb? Hey, good improvement there! keep it up! ;D

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Gotta say, I'm not a big fan of the KDE Menu. Too much clicking. So I installed this one...

Well, you can use the keyboard; left Alt+arrow keys to navigate through the items without even touching the mouse, once you find the one you're looking for just hit enter and it'll start. 
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Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2019, 10:23:50 PM »
 

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Well, you can use the keyboard; Alt+arrow keys to navigate through the items withoout even touching the mouse, once you find the one you're looking for just hit enter and it'll start. 


Having used computers for nearly 3 decades now, I'm well aware of that :)
 

Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2019, 10:39:51 PM »
 

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Well, you can use the keyboard; Alt+arrow keys to navigate through the items withoout even touching the mouse, once you find the one you're looking for just hit enter and it'll start. 


Having used computers for nearly 3 decades now, I'm well aware of that :)

But you can't do that in whisker menu, can you? At least not by default. I'm asking cause now I'm curious, it never ocurred to me to try that.
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Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2019, 11:04:11 PM »
 

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Quote from: firenice03
What about the what if's - What if XFCE went away? testing now - saves for the future.
That, would be another real reason to change.

But, what if LL went away?

Quote from: firenice03
Its technology - one has to stay informed, one needs to trial similar/competitive software. XFCE may have also seen this and may answer back with better performance of their own or more eye candy/features or they don't - but who does that benefit?
On one hand, true, XFCE may get motivated to improve their package, because it seems unlikely they would simply want to drop the ball all of a sudden. On the other hand, it was pointed out in this thread how the scope of XFCE team, as well as social backing, cannot match those of KDE. Which is weird, since XFCE is what literally everyone uses or have used until now, while KDE was the favorite package of everybody, that nobody had actually used. I mean, was that support theoretical or what?

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No its not, change is for growth, additional features, make a new path from the old...
- What if FAT never grew/changed No FAT32 or EXT3/4, XFS, BTRF or NTFS - we'd be satisfied with small partitions.
These are not the 80's. One guy is not going to revolutionize the industry, at least statistically speaking.

Ideally speaking, good change emerges from cohesiveness, coherence and concord.

In the end, I guess it boils down to the question of, does switch to KDE meet the purposes and ideals of Linux Lite better than staying with XFCE, minding also the economy of that switch?
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Re: XFCE vs KDE
« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2019, 07:43:09 AM »
 

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"Too much clicking."

Kinda like Windows utilities that cycle you through their redundant interfaces. Good or bad for ex-Windows users? I haven't counted the steps but in some cases might be about the same.

" since XFCE is what literally everyone uses"
Sorry no, not even close really.
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