POLL: Lite Tweaks Column Change

[Coastie]

Added Remove Category column to Poll.

Changed my vote to remove Category column. 

[paul1149]

@ralphy -sounds perfect. Thanks.

[ralphy]

Also, I don't know if it would be feasible, but I would think it ideal to have one password sign-in authorize all the tweaks of a given session, rather than piecemeal.

@paul1149 in the latest Lite Tweak update we addressed this in a slightly different way. Lite Tweaks will ask for admin credentials once only and then admins can execute as many tweaks as needed without being prompted for credentials all over again... as long as Lite Tweaks application is not quitted.

[paul1149]

Could the admin items be color-coded, and then retain the existing column? Also, I don't know if it would be feasible, but I would think it ideal to have one password sign-in authorize all the tweaks of a given session, rather than piecemeal.

Edit: sorry, didn't see the earlier suggestions to star the items requiring a password.

[Daveyboy]

Voted Remove as I feel this column is unnessesary bhowever, whilst on the subject of Lite Tweaks.


The first thing I do when using Lite Tweaks is to re-sort the menu order by status, i.e. all safe options together, in order to minimise the chance of ticking one of the  "Caution" categories by mistake.  [size=78%]I feel it would be useful if this was the default listing order in future releases [/size]

[m654321]

In my view, 'Password' is not necessary, as it's required by default for most LT tasks (i.e. 14 out of 19 listed LT tasks), and anyway is assumed to be needed to carry out most admin tasks in Linux more generally.

'Category' doesn't provide any useful practical information beyond what is already given in 'Task' and in 'Description', both the latter being important  in helping the user decide which LT task to use. However, in agreement with bitsnpcs, the classification within 'Category' does help one see how things fit together, when learning about the OS, though, again, not essential for practical purposes - it seems to be one of those 'nice-to-have-but-not-necessary-things'. 

Also, removing the redundant column will reduce the dialog width; useful on small screens, laptops

When I had LL installed on a 10" Samsung netbook (setup2 in sig), I can't recall screen width as being an issue for LT.
So, bitsnpcs' comment in Reply #12  swings it slightly in favour of keeping 'Category', so long as screen width (as it stands) isn't an issue... so that's the way I've voted.

[Jerry]

Added Remove Category column to Poll.

[bonnevie]

Honestly?  I don't think it makes a difference for a Windows-turns-Linux user. I took it for granted that I had to "sudo" everything for my own good in LL Tweak mode.  And if you keep it the way it is, no problem for this user here. Safe or not safe is a much more important feature to me. 

[bitsnpcs]

Hello,

I voted to keep the old category as it is informative when learning about the system.

I would like to suggest coloured text in the category column, if it requires admin password colour it red for example, or bold.

[Coastie]

I voted for password but like @ralphy's idea too. I would like to see sorting by safe status first.

[ralphy]

@ralphy -- I think we said a lot of the same things! We must have been writing our posts at the same time. And obviously, great minds, thinking alike and all that. 

@whateverthing

How did I manage to read your mind?     WoW!!! Yeah, I was nagged about another post when posting my own... Let's see what other users have to say; our way is definitely not the only way . With that said, LT is not a daily application and it is likely to be used by admins anyways. Lite Tweaks is one of those apps in Linux Lite that users run maybe once a month to do a clean up (if at all). That doesn't diminishes it value, but the reality is that admins identify the tweak by its NAME and not by the Category, which can also be replaced by sorting by Tasks. At least that's what my brain does when looking at LT; also that's what my wife says she "feels"... and believe you me; she is to be obeyed... lol 

[whateverthing]

@ralphy -- I think we said a lot of the same things! We must have been writing our posts at the same time. And obviously, great minds, thinking alike and all that. 

[ralphy]

Well, I really can't add my vote on the poll since I share a complete different idea on the subject.

I believe that the "Category" column is redundant and a waste of space based on the fact that users can sort by Name and Task. For example:

Name | Task | Category | Grade | Description

Bootup Fix -  Fix - Repair - Caution - Description goes here.


I'd vote for removing the "Category" column all together and not replacing it with a "Password" column because that defeats the purpose of saving space and clearing the dialog UI. Something like:

Name | Task | Category | Grade | Description

Bootup Fix -  Fix - Repair - Caution - Description goes here.



If there were a real need to hint which tasks do require administrative privileges, I'd add an asterisk to it - Name* as shown below.



The reason why I don't believe the column Password is necessary is because Lite Tweaks executes tasks in a specific order:

1- Tasks don't requiring Administrative Privileges
2- Tasks requiring Administrative Privileges

When users execute multiple tasks, that's the order in which it is done. Users are only prompted for administrative credentials once non administrative tasks have been executed. At that point Users can simply cancel the SINGLE prompt asking for credentials. Also, removing the redundant column will reduce the dialog width; useful on small screens, laptops. 

Those are my two cents - unfortunately there is no option for me to vote on this poll

[whateverthing]

All the other columns give good information, but I'd have to say either Category or Password would be the least useful column of the group. And newtusmaximus makes a good point, that knowing whether the user will be prompted for a password probably doesn't affect the decision to run the tweak. (Maybe we assume that because we are generally the admin for our system.)

Rather than a Password column, could you give the same information by adding an asterisk next to the name with an explanation in the header "*password required," since it's basically true/false information?

[newtusmaximus]

Not sure whether an extra column is needed.  I presume a password request box appears when appropriate.  Would the extra column alter a user's decision whether to try a tweak or not??  Hence have voted stay as now.