Linux Lite 3.0 Beta Released

[Jerry]

Thanks.  Will there be a Lock Screen option in the Menu like before?

The lock screen option is in the Menu at the bottom in the row of 4 icons (or use WinKey+L).

[Jerry]

Theme feedback - thanks to everyone who has commented on this. I'll definitely look into these concerns.

[Jerry]

@Duckeenie - is Volti still missing from the tray after reboot?

[Jerry]

@firenice03 - did that wifi device work on 2.8?

[Jerry]

Xscreensaver - was excluded because of previous conflicts in settings with light locker (many threads on this) and because it has such a dated look. IMO, it needs an overhaul in design and appearance, it needs modernizing to bring it in line with todays gui's that other softwares have.

Compton - this very nearly got put in as the default compositor. I thought a lot about this, and it almost got the nod. However, in the end I felt it a huge risk to switch, and then expect it to work so well on all the computers (and new ones) that previously ran Linux Lite. In hindsight, it would have been better to try this in the Beta. I'll look at it again for 3.2 Beta so that if it does bomb, I can put back in Compiz to the 3.2 Final.

Burning the ISO - I'm not overly worried it doesn't work on Yumi the way it has in the past. We still offer the same packages so to me that suggests the software (one or more of the Ubuntu packages) somewhere has changed. Avoid multi-boot flash drives. Please use software that people have had success with to date:

- Unetbootin: https://unetbootin.github.io/
- Win32 Disk Imager: https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/

On Linux, I use Image Writer with no issues - http://packages.linuxmint.com/pool/upstream/u/usb-imagewriter/usb-imagewriter_0.1.3-1linuxmint2_all.deb

Loving this feedback so far folks, awesome stuff

[eightbit]

On 64bit VirtualBox.

Screensaver doesn't appear to be installed.  And when I tried opening the Light Locker Settings, it does not open.  I get a spinning mouse for about half a second, but nothing opens after that.

Announcement mentions the exclusion of Screensaver. I'll look into Light Locker. Thank you

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Light locker will be another thing I will immediately remove and reinstall xscreensaver. Light locker has given me headaches over the years and still I cannot believe it is considered. Not to mention it doesn't include neat screensavers that everybody has been accustomed to for many years (remember flying toasters?). Xscreensaver works great and has a comprehensive collection of screensavers that I really enjoy. Guess I am a minority that actually still do appreciate a good screensaver however

[firenice03]

Installed 64bit - Error filename expected..

Install went well - in a triple boot set up = Win7 - Mint - LL2.8 = Mint replaced with LL3.0
Install completed, booted to 2.8, updated grub rebooted, 3.0 was seen but no joy when selecting 3.0 or advanced 3.0...

Will look at more in-depth tomorrow

[eightbit]

Well the 64-bit version was 46MB too much to use my trusty Memorex 1GB usb flash drive that I have used for Linux Lite for quite some time, but the 32-bit version fit just fine Booted up just fine and detected by dual core G3450 and all of my 8GB of memory. Cool!

Looks great Jerry. 2.8 was/is great, but the fine tuning in this release (as well as being a new LTS) is superb. This is going right on a few older PC's I have around here right away.

One thing I would love to see in the final is compton set up to autostart with the OS and the XFCE integrated compositor disabled. It is always the first thing I have to do after an install of LL. And it is not compositing for high end video cards either. I have found that compton straight up outperforms the integrated compositor in video performance even on some pretty old (P4 era) PC's with integrated video. If not enabled by default in the autostart, at least installed and an autostart entry ready to check off if the user wants it would be great. I believe compton takes up under 100kb, so space should not be an issue. The autostart option I have continually used on so many machines is one I believe you provided some time ago:

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Name: Compton
Description: Compositor for X11
Command: compton --backend glx --paint-on-overlay --glx-no-stencil --vsync opengl-swc
If you cannot add it for some reason I understand, but it be really really convenient (and no other XFCE based distro does it except for Mint as far as I am aware)

[LinuxNoob]

LinuxNoob - re keyboard issues.  Presume \language for \Canada is English (Canada) as priority?  Hence try going  to settings/Language Support.
  Under Language,  Assuming English (Canada) is listed, drag it up to the top of the lst if it is not already there.
Under Regional Formats - ensure  Display numbers etc i Has English (Canada) in the grey box.
Close.
The Settings/Keyboard
Behaviour - try unticking "restore num lock"
Layout - untick System Defaults
Keyboard Layout - English (Canada)   only
Keyboard Model. Try Acer Laptop
Close
 Reboot.   See if problem persists.

Retrace above trying various Acer Keyboard models, failing that generic International options

Hope this helps

Sorry it's not a language problem I know this from experience. Here is a post I made explaining to allanh where I was thinking as having the same problem....

https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/other-17/asus-eeepc-1001-netbook-keyboard/msg22548/#msg22548

I purchased this laptop used and I have never had this issue with any computer I have had before. After some googling I found that this is a special French/English hybrid keyboard layout.

Pg Up/P.prec.
Home/Debut
on my page up key The e keys have a thingie on the top

[newtusmaximus]

LinuxNoob - re keyboard issues.  Presume \language for \Canada is English (Canada) as priority?  Hence try going  to settings/Language Support.
  Under Language,  Assuming English (Canada) is listed, drag it up to the top of the lst if it is not already there.
Under Regional Formats - ensure  Display numbers etc i Has English (Canada) in the grey box.
Close.
The Settings/Keyboard
Behaviour - try unticking "restore num lock"
Layout - untick System Defaults
Keyboard Layout - English (Canada)   only
Keyboard Model. Try Acer Laptop
Close
 Reboot.   See if problem persists.

Retrace above trying various Acer Keyboard models, failing that generic International options

Hope this helps

[mandoran]

I've failed to install using the 64-bit iso in a Virtual Box. The installer crashed after claiming there was not enough space to install (have allocated 10GB for it) and then said I could file a report after the message window closed - but the message window doesn't close.

It seemed to be running smoothly from the iso before the install.

[firenice03]

Update for Live USB..

1st attempt was a multi-boot using YUMI - both 32 and 64 bit prompted for UserID/PW (it/"blank")

2nd attempt was a single usb using Win32DiskImage - 32 bit NO prompt, auto log on worked as normal.


Noticed: On the Dell Thin the Wireless USB isn't recognized correctly, lists as phy0: - maybe its the kernel or??
Some output of commands:

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it@it:~$ inxi -Fzx
System:    Host: it Kernel: 4.4.0-22-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.3.1)
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.28) Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial
Machine:   System: Dell product: OptiPlex 160
           Mobo: Dell model: 0F259F v: A01 Bios: Dell v: A10 date: 01/19/2012
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom 230 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3193
           clock speeds: max: 1596 MHz 1: 1596 MHz 2: 1596 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter
           bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.3 drivers: vesa (unloaded: fbdev)
           Resolution: [email protected]
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 128 bits)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Azalia Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:0f.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-22-generic
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5764M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
           driver: tg3 v: 3.137 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapter driver: rtl8192cu usb-ID: 001-002
           IF: wlxe8de27122dbb state: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 191.1GB (21.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST9160411ASG size: 160.0GB temp: 39C
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: Name n/a size: 31.0GB temp: 0C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 1.5G used: 43M (3%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 3.22GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda6
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 22.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 173 Uptime: 11 min Memory: 433.2/3007.7MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.3.1 Client: Shell (bash 4.3.421) inxi: 2.2.35

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it@it:~$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 13fe:4100 Kingston Technology Company Inc. Flash drive
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:8178 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0e8f:0022 GreenAsia Inc. multimedia keyboard controller
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 093a:2510 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Optical Mouse
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 03f0:0517 Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 1000
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub

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it@it:~$ rfkill list
0: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no

Hope it helps..

May try to install this evening...

[Duckeenie]

Volti is in my startup but I can't see it running in task manager and I have no icon in the notification area. Sound does work.

[Duckeenie]

The default borderless windows look fine against the default colourful background. But when dialogs are open on top of white-background documents, or even other dialog boxes, the result is visually confusing. A border, even just a single pixel, is necessary. And don't make the border lines almost invisible by making them a very light colour. Tabs within dialogs have this problem. Open File Manager Preferences, for example. It's not clear visually which of the tabs (Display, Side Pane, Behavior, Advanced) is actually selected! On the Behavior tab, the non-selected radio buttons are nearly invisible. Fortunately, selecting the label selects the button, too. But the text just floating in space like that doesn't even look like a control.

GUI designers need to remember that their users are not all 25-year-olds with perfect vision.

I have not yet tried the alternative Appearance settings, which could be quite time-consuming. How the two or three blocks of colour preceding the Style name relate to the Desktop appearance is not clear to me. Are washed-out blues and greys the only choices? It might be simpler to provide some way to directly select border thickness/colour, header size/colour, etc.

Despite the preceding gripes, Linux Lite 3.0 looks like a nice upgrade from v2.8. There's a good selection of up-to-date applications. I have installed the beta on a VM to try it out.

I agree entirely. I switched the theme pretty quickly after noticing this.

In addition why has Greybird become Pinkbird? I mean it doesn't actually look bad (I'm using it now) but it does limit our colour options between themes somewhat.

[torreydale]

On the comment about the borderless windows of the Arc theme, I notice when I have a File Manager window open, I can only grab the top edge, the top two corners, and the bottom right corner to resize the window.  I cannot grab the bottom left corner or any other edge beside the top edge.

In a Terminal, I can only grab the top edge and the top two corners to resize the window. 

These issues are alleviated somewhat when I switch the Window Manager to the Arc-Dark or Arc-Darker themes.  But these issues go away altogether if I switch the Window Manager to Kokodi, Daloa, or Moheli.

Note:  I am using 64bit LL3.0 in a Virtualbox VM.