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Hello! :)

Any advice on installing the OS onto the USB stick?  Things I should do or not do?

I installed some distros using USB sticks. Speed was way out of usability. A server is supposed to run on the fastest media available.

[...] My two cents using USB keys... but the fast ones.
Sandisk Ultra's or Extreme for example. [...]

While nobody can state that "beyond any reasonable doubt", this is my approach to this:

Use Gnome Disks to measure the speed of the drive.
Step 1
After the test completion, a diagram will be shown.
Make a screen capture of the diagram. Save it under a meaningful name.
Test all partitions of the drive, make a screen capture for each.
Step 2
Plug and test the USB candidate for server deployment. Make a screen capture for this, too.
Repeat the steps for each available USB stick.
Step 3
Use an image viewer to compare the test results for each drive.

Here is a sample of a SSD ADATA SU650, 240 GB (223 GB), main partition, /dev/sda3/:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3049320371782520

While getting this kind of results on a stick is unlikely, you can obviously test a classic HDD and after comparing the results, you can make the best decision regarding which stick fits the closest to the server's speed requirements.
Since you have 6 TB HDDs, a good idea is to test those and compare with the stick's speed.
The closer you get to the HDDs speed, the better.
I recommend you to avoid any stick that is under 40 MB/s (2400 MB/min). The higher, the better.
You need to bare in mind that heat is critical, and it slows down any NAND media, be it stick or SSD. The Joule effect has nothing to do with my opinions regarding a manufacturer or another. It's just a physics law. It simply acts with or without my consent or anyone else's.
Therefore, given the fact that the server is going to work many hours, the drive wil get hot at some point in time. This leads to bad sectors and in fact, it's what kills any storage of any kind, including optical media.

Good luck! :)


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Other / Re: how do i use the the official Spotify repositories to install spotify
« Last post by Jerry on July 11, 2020, 02:45:42 AM »
Use Lite Software to install Spotify. You wlll then get the newest stable version when it is available.
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Installing Linux Lite / Problem with Videocard and Wifi adapter drivers
« Last post by Cuc Cu on July 10, 2020, 09:39:04 PM »
Hi guys,

I'm a newbie to Linux and recently just install Linux Lite 5 on my old Alienware M17x laptop. Everything seems fine after the installation but when I followed the guide to update the drivers for graphic card and wifi adapter then having problem with booting. The weird thing is everything works just fine at the beginning without update the drivers, I can get wifi connection except the speed is kinda slow for my regular speed when I use with Windows. Could you guys please help me out with it or any recommendations for what I need to do now ? I can just ignore updating the drivers and keep using it this way but I wanna make the internet connection faster. Any help would be appreciated !
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its using this repository http://repo.linuxliteos.com/linuxlite emerald/main amd64 spotify-client amd64
but i added  http://repository.spotify.com stable InRelease
how do i force it to download form the official repo form apt
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Installing Linux Lite / Re: Installing onto a USB stick for a home server advice?
« Last post by Moltke on July 10, 2020, 02:29:44 PM »
So I'm retiring my old server, a HP DL380 G4 with Windows Server 2012, at my home.

I bought a used dell poweredge R330 w/ xeon 1270 v5 and 16GB of ECC ram for dirt cheap since the casing was damaged on the back but does not impact the server at all.  It only has 4x 3.5 sas hotswap bays on the front.  No big deal.  Very quiet 1u server, a rarity.

I updated all bios and firmware for ALL hardware, including the power supplies firmware.

It does have one internal usb port though and instead of wasting the 4x 6TB SAS3 drives I have, why not throw the OS onto a 64GB USB stick I have laying around.

Any advice on installing the OS onto the USB stick?  Things I should do or not do?

It is possible. Just install it like you would in a HDD. You'll need to burn the .iso either to a USB or a DVD, boot the system from that device and install it onto your 64GB stick. I have a couple of distros installed that way and they work just fine. Persistence would be good but then you wont be able to update the kernel when/if you need/want to, at least not in an easy way.
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Installing Linux Lite / Re: Installing onto a USB stick for a home server advice?
« Last post by TheDead on July 10, 2020, 08:55:34 AM »
Hi!

My two cents using USB keys... buy the fast ones.
Sandisk Ultra's or Extreme for example.
I changed all my keys to those a few years ago and never looked back.

PS: Was able to make a Windows 10 bootable USB key and was faster than the internal hard drive. ;)
Edit:Typos, again...
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Solved! Finally! Struggle no longer... Here’s what worked: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1768050
[...]
Hello!
I find your solution way too complicated.
Besides, it worked by chance.
The listed messages, have a different meaning: they mean that you are trying to install a set of packages OVER an existing set.
So what you were supposed to do, was TO REMOVE the existing drivers.
I have an NVidia GK107 which is a GeForce GT630 OEM.
Linux Lite installed the XOrg drivers so I tested the latest package available from NVidia, which is 440.
After installing those packages and testing some video scenarios, I needed to know if there is a difference between XOrg drivers and the NVidia driver package nvidia-driver-440. So, I got the same messages when I wanted to install the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau packages.
After removing those with Synaptic, all went OK.

The difference

With the NVidia 440 drivers, on a 22:45" HD720p video project, it rendered with an average of 37 FPS (See the machine on the left).
With the NVidia 440 drivers, on the same project, it rendered with an average of 31 FPS. A loss of speed of 6 FPS.
Now, I want to test the other versions. On some forums, I found posts that say that the older drivers get better results.
So I assume the next test will be with the NVidia 435 drivers.
If you want to test another set of drivers, you'll have to revert to the default driver (Nouveau) by uninstalling from Synaptic Package Manager, all nvidia-*-xyz driver packages (too many to list them all).
After this, go to "Software & Updates", select "Additional drivers" and choose the driver you want installed.
Although this installer should REMOVE the unnecessary drivers, actually does nothing like this and throws the messages you saw.

Hope this will help you get the best of your video card, switching to the best results driver kit. :)

All the best!

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On Topic / Re: HP SmartTouch for Linux Lite 5
« Last post by johnausten13 on July 10, 2020, 07:27:45 AM »

Have you tried the latest Kernel?


Nope. Not yet.  Maybe a few months from now, I will re-install LL with the latest kernel. I can't get hold of the laptop right now. I guess my sister and her husband is quite content with the current version. Thanks.   ;)
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Installing Linux Lite / Re: Install Updates - error log
« Last post by Sarvesh Sharma on July 10, 2020, 04:53:27 AM »
nstall Updates Error log
===========================
Install Updates could not successfully download and install available updates.
Go to https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/ and paste the log below into a new or existing thread for assistance.

============ Log ===========

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Calculating upgrade...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  linux-headers-5.4.0-37 linux-headers-5.4.0-37-generic
  linux-image-5.4.0-37-generic linux-modules-5.4.0-37-generic
  linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-37-generic
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be upgraded:
  gnome-desktop3-data libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-bin libglib2.0-data
  libglib2.0-dev libglib2.0-dev-bin libgnome-desktop-3-19 libgphoto2-6
  libgphoto2-port12 python3-software-properties software-properties-common
  software-properties-gtk thunderbird
13 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 46.6 MB of archives.
After this operation, 154 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Err:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 libglib2.0-dev-bin amd64 2.64.3-1~ubuntu20.04.1
  Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 libglib2.0-0 amd64 2.64.3-1~ubuntu20.04.1 [1,284 kB]
Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 libglib2.0-bin amd64 2.64.3-1~ubuntu20.04.1 [72.9 kB]
Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 libglib2.0-dev amd64 2.64.3-1~ubuntu20.04.1 [1,503 kB]
Get:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 libglib2.0-data all 2.64.3-1~ubuntu20.04.1 [5,752 B]
Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 gnome-desktop3-data all 3.36.3.1-0ubuntu1 [21.7 kB]
Get:7 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 libgnome-desktop-3-19 amd64 3.36.3.1-0ubuntu1 [115 kB]
Get:8 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 libgphoto2-port12 amd64 2.5.25-0ubuntu0.1 [51.8 kB]
Get:9 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 libgphoto2-6 amd64 2.5.25-0ubuntu0.1 [653 kB]
Get:10 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 software-properties-common all 0.98.9.1 [10.5 kB]
Get:11 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 software-properties-gtk all 0.98.9.1 [64.0 kB]
Get:12 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 python3-software-properties all 0.98.9.1 [25.2 kB]
Get:13 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 thunderbird amd64 1:68.10.0+build1-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 [42.7 MB]
Fetched 46.5 MB in 1min 42s (456 kB/s)
E: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-dev-bin_2.64.3-1~ubuntu20.04.1_amd64.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
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Hello everybody!
As I said before, I moved on a different machine.
I will be updating this post, as I gather new info on how Linux Lite 5.0 (or higher! :) ) works on this machine.
For now, I will only post here the output of the inxi -c 0 -ACdGMNSz command so you can figure out what kind of machine this is and get inspired on what works and how.

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serban@T1700:~$ inxi -c 0 -ACdGMNSz
System:
  Kernel: 5.4.0-40-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2
  Distro: Linux Lite 5.0 LTS
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Precision T1700 v: 01 serial: <filter>
  Mobo: Dell model: 048DY8 v: A01 serial: <filter> UEFI: Dell v: A25
  date: 02/02/2018
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-4790 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
  L2 cache: 8192 KiB
  Speed: 1129 MHz min/max: 800/4000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1097 2: 1098
  3: 1097 4: 1098 5: 1098 6: 1098 7: 1098 8: 1098
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GK107 [GeForce GT 630 OEM] driver: nouveau v: kernel
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
  resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: NVE7 v: 4.3 Mesa 20.0.8
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio
  driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-2: NVIDIA GK107 HDMI Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-3: DigiTech type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-40-generic
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I217-LM driver: e1000e
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 223.57 GiB used: 18.77 GiB (8.4%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: A-Data model: SU650 size: 223.57 GiB
  Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: PLDS model: DVD-ROM DH-16D8S
  dev-links: cdrom,dvd
  Features: speed: 48 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: none

I also uploaded the data on the Linux Lite HW Database so people can get a reference on Linux Lite performance.
The only trouble I had was actually caused by my low level practice with booting and installing UEFI kits. It took me some 40 - 80 minutes to figure out the exact steps of the boot process.
From what I can say now, everything goes FLAWLESSLY.
Unfortunately, thorough tests, require a huge amount of time since I need to test many scenarios.
From what I could gather so far:

  • RAM consumption with OpenShot rendering a 720p HD video = 1600 MB;
  • Video used: NVidia GK 107 with 430 driver, worked with 37 FPS;
  • Video used: NVidia GK 107 with XOrg driver, worked with 31 FPS;
  • OpenShot (same as above) + Chrome, 15 documents = 2700 MB RAM;
  • CPU load, never maxed (went at about 65%);
  • SWAP = 0. I belive this is mostly due to the 240 GB SSD.
  • Partitioning: GPT.
There is still a huge amount of work to do here. A quick overview:
Three NVidia drivers to test: 340.108; 390; 435.
The Intel® HD Graphics 4600 (need to set it as primary display, then see what happens next, even remove the GeForce GT 630).


Hope this will help people make a good choice and figure out WHY Linux Lite is great.
I guess it worths mentioning that my applications installation script, remained the same as for LL 4.8 on Lenovo ThinkPad T400.
The only problem I had is FSLint since it lacks a version compatible with the new components in Linux Lite 5.0 / Ubuntu 20.04.
All other User Apps (packages) (about 100) work fine.

I am very happy Linux Lite is so highly flexible! :)
Thanks Jerry, send my gratitude to all the team! :)

Best regards! :)

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