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Re: How Can I change the Root Password?
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2015, 01:44:47 PM »
 

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I was thinking about Ikey's package manager rather than debian.

Man pages and techie stuff is out of my remit but I can follow intructions, I am one of those customers you dread!
 

Re: How Can I change the Root Password?
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2015, 01:30:53 PM »
 

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Should the package manager ideally run that code "updatedb" whenever it adds/removes packages?

No. I think a Cron job handles that later but cannot swear to it (see below sentence). updatdb needs to be run manually  1st before the cron job kicks in though.
Because I have seen locate has not been updated errors after a certain amount of days have passed without running updatedb manually on my rigs.

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man locate
might fill in the blanks in this post.

http://linux.die.net/man/1/locate

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By default, locate does not check whether files found in database still exist. locate can never report files created after the most recent update of the relevant database.
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Re: How Can I change the Root Password?
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2015, 01:23:31 PM »
 

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I'm getting 15 lines like this when running "sudo updatedb"
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/usr/bin/find: `/home/user/.gvfs': Permission deniedI'm getting this with "locate pwd"
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/bin/pwd
/etc/.pwd.lock
/home/user/data/ukbrian--/apps/doublecmd/doublecmd/pwd.ini
/lib/modules/3.2.0-4-686-pae/kernel/drivers/watchdog/hpwdt.ko
/sbin/unix_chkpwd
/usr/bin/pwdx
/usr/include/pwd.h
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/twisted/python/fakepwd.py
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/twisted/python/test/test_fakepwd.py
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/python/fakepwd.py
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/python/fakepwd.pyc
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/python/test/test_fakepwd.py
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/python/test/test_fakepwd.pyc
/usr/lib/syslinux/pwd.c32
/usr/share/man/fr/man1/pwd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/fr/man1/pwdx.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/pwd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/pwdx.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/unix_chkpwd.8.gz
/usr/share/perl/5.14.2/pwd.pl
/usr/share/pyshared/twisted/python/fakepwd.py
/usr/share/pyshared/twisted/python/test/test_fakepwd.py

With "locate passwd" I get
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$ locate passwd
/etc/cron.daily/passwd
/etc/pam.d/chpasswd
/etc/pam.d/passwd
/etc/passwd
/etc/passwd-
/etc/security/opasswd
/usr/bin/gpasswd
/usr/bin/grub-mkpasswd-pbkdf2
/usr/bin/lppasswd
/usr/bin/passwd
/usr/bin/smbpasswd
/usr/include/rpcsvc/yppasswd.h
/usr/include/rpcsvc/yppasswd.x
/usr/lib/netatalk/uams_dhx2_passwd.a
/usr/lib/netatalk/uams_dhx2_passwd.so
/usr/lib/netatalk/uams_passwd.a
/usr/lib/netatalk/uams_passwd.so
/usr/sbin/chgpasswd
/usr/sbin/chpasswd
/usr/sbin/update-passwd
/usr/share/app-install/desktop/kdepasswd.desktop
/usr/share/app-install/desktop/redhat-userpasswd.desktop
/usr/share/base-passwd
/usr/share/base-passwd/group.master
/usr/share/base-passwd/passwd.master
/usr/share/cups/doc-root/help/man-lppasswd.html
/usr/share/doc/base-passwd
/usr/share/doc/base-passwd/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/base-passwd/copyright
/usr/share/doc/base-passwd/README
/usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.html
/usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.txt.gz
/usr/share/doc/libnet-ssleay-perl/examples/passwd-cb.pl
/usr/share/doc/passwd
/usr/share/doc/passwd/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/passwd/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/passwd/copyright
/usr/share/doc/passwd/examples
/usr/share/doc/passwd/examples/passwd.expire.cron
/usr/share/doc/passwd/NEWS.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/passwd/NEWS.gz
/usr/share/doc/passwd/README
/usr/share/doc/passwd/README.Debian
/usr/share/doc/passwd/TODO.gz
/usr/share/lintian/overrides/passwd
/usr/share/man/cs/man1/gpasswd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/cs/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/de/man1/gpasswd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/de/man1/passwd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/de/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/de/man8/chpasswd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/de/man8/update-passwd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/es/man8/update-passwd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/fr/man1/gpasswd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/fr/man1/passwd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/fr/man1/passwd.1SSL.gz
/usr/share/man/fr/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/fr/man8/chpasswd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/fr/man8/update-passwd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/hu/man1/gpasswd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/hu/man1/passwd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/hu/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/it/man1/gpasswd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/it/man1/passwd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/it/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/it/man8/chpasswd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/ja/man1/gpasswd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/ja/man1/passwd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/ja/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/ja/man8/chpasswd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/ja/man8/update-passwd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/ko/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/gpasswd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/grub-mkpasswd-pbkdf2.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/lppasswd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/passwd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/passwd.1ssl.gz
/usr/share/man/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/man5/smbpasswd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/chgpasswd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/chpasswd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/smbpasswd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/update-passwd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/pl/man8/update-passwd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/pt_BR/man1/gpasswd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/pt_BR/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/ru/man1/gpasswd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/ru/man1/passwd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/ru/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/ru/man8/chpasswd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/ru/man8/update-passwd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/sv/man1/passwd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/sv/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/tr/man1/passwd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/tr/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/zh_CN/man1/gpasswd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/zh_CN/man1/passwd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/zh_CN/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/zh_CN/man8/chpasswd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/zh_TW/man5/passwd.5.gz
/usr/share/man/zh_TW/man8/chpasswd.8.gz
/var/backups/passwd.bak
/var/lib/dpkg/info/base-passwd.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/base-passwd.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/base-passwd.postinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/passwd.conffiles
/var/lib/dpkg/info/passwd.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/passwd.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/passwd.postinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/passwd.preinst

I'll start another thread about my other problem

Cheers Bro


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Re: How Can I change the Root Password?
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2015, 11:43:34 AM »
 

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After installing locate.

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sudo updatedb
is the 1st thing that should be done after a locate install. It will take a while to finish so give it some time.

The command I gave above updates the data base immediately. After that. I think a cron job in locate text file updates it periodically.
I usually just updatedb manually after downloading anything from the net so it shows later on when I need to find it.
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Re: How Can I change the Root Password?
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2015, 07:11:37 AM »
 

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The idiot is still struggling.

I installed locate but didn't get anything out of it so I used catfish but didn't find anything that looked like an answer.

I'm not giving a machine to new comers that keeps asking for passwords but I'm also not going to install mint as I will do nothing to help clem.

Thanks for trying Bro.
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Re: How Can I change the Root Password?
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2015, 07:16:38 PM »
 

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locate pwd
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locate passwd
you will see hidden files beginning with a "."

eg:

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/etc/.pwd.lock

Some files are in code. Some not.  Not a coder. So I cannot tell you how to edit. Just only how to look around.
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Re: How Can I change the Root Password?
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2015, 01:10:00 PM »
 

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I just installed a saline-backup of Mint and Xubuntu and in neither one did thunar ask for permission to mount partitions as I expected.

If there's anything I can check in Mint just ask.
 

Re: How Can I change the Root Password?
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2015, 11:20:53 AM »
 

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Thanks for trying man  :D
I'm banjaxed today so I'm off to chill for a bit
 

Re: How Can I change the Root Password?
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2015, 12:26:23 AM »
 

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I don't think it is sudoers (or sudo) that is managing that function, I think it is Policykit.
I find that password request to mount a partition annoying and unnecessary, also. I will see if I can figure it out...

I tried editing /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/50-localauthority.conf
from "AdminIdentities=unix-user:0"
to "AdminIdentities=unix-user:0;unix-user:dan"
but that did not do it.
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Re: How Can I change the Root Password?
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2015, 05:48:55 PM »
 

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My celebration was premature  :(

I'm still being asked for a bl**dy password when I try to open a partition on my internal sata drive.

Please Mr AustenTexas can you help a poor Welsh sheep sh*ging redneck?


 

Re: How/can I change the root password
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2015, 10:02:44 PM »
 

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I addedthat line to the live DVD but still no joy, it's not an ISO file it's a CD so I guess I need to create an ISO file first but xfburn don't do that so I'll have to look around for summat.

@AustinTexas
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I would go for a shot of tea-quila.
Good shot, I'm going to need a bit of time to think up an appropriate responce.

Meanwhile I added this line to try and get thunar to load other partitions in the sidebar quietly instead of requesting permission. It seems to work but I still have to give it a good roadtest later.
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user   ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/thunar
Gotta burn some rubber, see ya
« Last Edit: February 23, 2015, 03:54:21 AM by ukbrian »
 

Re: How/can I change the root password
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2015, 10:01:38 PM »
 

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Can I make you a nice cup of tea Mr AustinTexas, you have saved an old man from doing a boring pointless task many times a day, with this increase in my productivity I might be able to retire early.
I would go for a shot of tea-quila.
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Re: How/can I change the root password
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2015, 09:45:24 PM »
 

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Thank you Sir Mr AustinTexas
You are my hero


Can I make you a nice cup of tea Mr AustinTexas, you have saved an old man from doing a boring pointless task many times a day, with this increase in my productivity I might be able to retire early.

I was an early adopter of Ghost I found/prefered to install a quick back up rather than try to undo some messes I made, I've been running win7 for three years without any anti virus running, I just do backups with Macrium Reflect free edition, 10 minutes and I have my system back after disaster strikes.

With Debian linux I use saline-backup to clone the partition or create a backup file, it was written for Squeeze but still runs on Jessie with systemd, I want to try it on EvolveOS but Yad isn't in the repos yet, I suppose I could try it on Manjaro where the saline-backup dev moved to, it was unsettling when within 6 months Saline OS closed down and migrated away from Debian to Manjaro and Ikey closed down his Debian SolusOS and then built his own new Linux base, 2 guys I respect moving away from Debian starts you thinking about the future, wouldn't surprise me if Deepin moved from a Ubuntu base to Ikey's new base.



I'm in you debt Sir, big time, one of the main Linux irritations removed.


Freedom from the nanny at last, I can relax again and not be constantly irritated, my quality of life has improved.

There's always another problem though.
 

Re: How/can I change the root password
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2015, 08:44:41 PM »
 

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If the disk is based on Mint the root password may be blank. The sudo commands on some live cd/dvd don't require a password.
Cheers avj
The iso was done on Saline OS Squeeze and created with remastersys methods but it was made to help users of Mint LMDE

Off to try blank see what happens.

No luck I'm totally useless, I need an engineer.  :P

Is the password stored somewhere where I can find out what it is rather than changing it?
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Re: How/can I change the root password
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2015, 08:36:48 PM »
 

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Is there a line I can add to sudoers that would do what I want I normally add "user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL"
Then change "root  ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" to "root ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL"

Not a good idea, but I think that is what you are looking for...
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