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Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2019, 02:52:59 PM »
 

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Quote from: 'The Dead'
Like that known old-little-long-ears green dude would say!
Ioda was a very respectable character in the history of cinema, I think him possessing the traits of a fantasy goblin or a martian elf, were to point out his humbleness.
 

Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2019, 02:44:00 PM »
 

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I actually strip out any negativity and look at their core concern.
Like that known old-little-long-ears green dude would say!
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Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2019, 05:16:00 AM »
 

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I have a "throw away" e-mail address that I give to people or businesses that are likely to send me lots of unwanted SPAM, but not a fake email to hide behind and make little sniper attacks anonymously.  Especially personal ones!  I like his chosen nickname, though.  Sasquatch - it fits.

 

Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2019, 03:02:04 AM »
 

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And FTR, nearly all that do this, leave a fake email address, which for me, absolutely confirms their cowardess.

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Maybe it is meant to be like that? I mean, maybe it is intended to bring you down with these quite personal hit-and-run harassments, aiming for one sided communication. Well, if there is even no technical way to respond, certainly dialogue is not an option, but at least you can rest in an assumption as to not waste the energy trying to involve in a dispute.
 

Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2019, 01:42:16 AM »
 

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And FTR, nearly all that do this, leave a fake email address, which for me, absolutely confirms their cowardess.

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Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2019, 01:39:41 AM »
 

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I actually strip out any negativity and look at their core concern. If they have a valid suggestion that I've overlooked or a fresh idea that fits our target audiences expectations, then it goes onto the todo list. I don't just look at these emails and discard them, despite their choice of words, the core message has some value.

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Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2019, 01:30:20 AM »
 

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@Jerry, I think these people may have valid opinions, but they do not just one, but two things wrong, which nonetheless - if properly taken out of they way - could give you a glimpse of proper feedback on the project. First thing done wrong is the way the opinion is being expressed. Aggression leads nowhere in terms of constructivism, especially if not met with any likewise attitude on the other side of communication channel. To myself, it is fully excusable to simply leave aggressive 'participants' without any answer whatsoever. Other thing done wrong, is that they do not have proper details on the actual topic, typically blaming you - the distro assembler - with faults of particular software pieces, which the author of, nor the maintainer, you are not - for the better or worse. Therefore, trolls typically would misattribute or misaddress their 'feedback', because why do their homework, if they simply can hate. Having this in mind, you can still see something of meaning even in the troll rambling.
 

Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2019, 12:24:51 AM »
 

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People that write such messages, I can only assume thy have their own payload of problems. The worst of them are just rotten inside and is nothing to mind about at all. If they can't figure things out themself, it seem to always be somebody other faults.

btw - reminds me of a recent youtube video I came over:
https://youtu.be/TJLvyWLxrBA?list=LL0KZj1xcEsKogL6eTYh_nHw

Many thanks Sprintdriver - I really enjoyed listening to Joe Collins' video.
However, the Windows poweruser who had the message of complaint about Linux was rather more polite.  Joe Collins has a very soothing/relaxing delivery - a good antidote for those feeling frustrated with Linux. Really enjoyed many of his comments. His observation that the group that's hardest to teach Linux to is Windows powerusers was really interesting.
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Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2019, 11:24:39 PM »
 

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Ouch! Had a good laugh at that one and the previous ones in this thread xD. Love how it is in all caps. And my gosh does the 'ILL HAVE MORE. . .' sound so threatening lol. Let's just say that name-calling a developer is not a step closer to getting issues solved. (especially someone who is donating their time & money for a greater cause, thank you LL team!)

I wonder if they would say the same things to you in that email, face-to-face or a phone call. I wonderrrrrrr . . .

(P.S. 'RETAREDED' is misspelled, just noticed that lol)
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Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2019, 08:32:23 PM »
 

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Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2019, 12:48:53 AM »
 

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For the on-topic, should we stop making drama, like we saw trollism on the Internet for the first time?
 

Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2019, 07:30:14 PM »
 

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People that write such messages, I can only assume thy have their own payload of problems. The worst of them are just rotten inside and is nothing to mind about at all. If they can't figure things out themself, it seem to always be somebody other faults.

btw - reminds me of a recent youtube video I came over:
https://youtu.be/TJLvyWLxrBA?list=LL0KZj1xcEsKogL6eTYh_nHw
I won't let an old, but fully functional computer die just because some company tell me that they won't make no more security updates to their OS. Thanks Linux :)
 

Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2019, 06:46:27 PM »
 

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@Moltke, if it can be generated by bots easily, it is rather a poor way of defining the status quo.

@MS Agree. However, I do visit DW quite regularly, despite the dubious, unreliable, uncertain accuracy it may or may not have regarding the "popularity" of X distro, which frankly, I think it's irrelevant in terms of user's expectations and/or experience, that being said, they do provide a good service to the community by offering all that info in one single place, that alone is enough to say "thank you DW" whether you trust or not their ranking system is another story, but their contribution to the Linux world is undeniable.
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Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2019, 12:05:13 PM »
 

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@Moltke, if it can be generated by bots easily, it is rather a poor way of defining the status quo.
 

Re: The Glitz and Glamour of maintaining an OS
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2019, 11:16:53 AM »
 

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Speaking of DistroWatch, having given their rankings a brief glance, I do not think it is the greatest point of reference for picking up an OS to use. Not because I am using Linux Lite and think everyone should do the same. Infact, I encourage people to do the exploration on their own behalf. Perhaps then we could confront our observations eventually, if to maintain constructive thinking. But some of the options pointed by DistroWatch as the most popular, do not really seem to myself as being generated by spontaneous popularity among the casual audience. Unless there is no 'casual audience' in Linux.

According to what I've read on the web, Distrowatch's distro ranking system is based on clicks; that is, how many clicks a distro's link gets on their page. If you go to DW, have a look at the list, click on any distro name, then click to the distro's page from within DW site, that click is being counted by their system, they don't know if you actually downloaded, installed and are using it, just that you clicked that distro's name on their page, so I agree with you to some extent that it doesn't reflect which distro is the most used, noticed that I wrote "used" not popular, since at least in DW "popular" means most clicked however, having a look at DW does give people some reference and reading through the comments helps too.
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