Still having problems

[Wirezfree]

I had issue with creating Bootable CD/DVD's, flaky old drive on XP.
So I tried: Universal USB Installer under Windows: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/

Also available on Linux:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/using-unetbootin-to-create-a-linux-usb-from-linux/

I must have created/re-created and installed 20+ times from USB boot sticks without a glitch
Just select "Try Unlisted Linux ISO" from the Select Distro, and browse to your ISO file.

[rentwist]

I use IMGBurn, no problems.  DL the ISO and burn to disk using that or your choice of programs.

As for doing the install, someone suggested to me (and I followed) when I had crash issues with ISO disk install, do a live USB image using Win32 Disk Imager.  Works great.

[gold_finger]

Sometimes walking away and letting it sit on kernel panic while you make a cup of tea or coffee surprises you when you come back and see the boot process finish also. I have seen that also happen.

True.  I've also had kernel panics on first boot attempt of live USB, only to have it disappear after 2nd or 3rd boot attempt -- so go ahead and and try booting more than once to see if boots successfully on one of the attempts.  (Don't know why it happens, but it does.)

The drive is partitioned in this configuration:
One HDD of 80GB (all calcs are before automatic overhead):
Drive C is now approximately 28GB
Virtual Drive D (a second partion) is 27GB
(This is the primary spaces assigned for Linux Lite)
With a tiny drive on at the end in never never land for Ghost Windows sized to 25GB.

Not sure what you mean by "Virtual Drive D".  Is that a regular partition, or is it something else.  Can you post a screenshot of the drive from Windows Disk Manager (not from GParted) please?  I'm wondering if you created a "dynamic" disk by accident, which I believe causes problems for Linux installs.

I don't know what "Ghost Windows" is, but if you can't boot into that to provide above screenshot then boot up with LL DVD/USB (assuming you can get past kernel panic) and post screenshot from GParted.  Also provide terminal output from these commands:

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lsblk
sudo fdisk -l(Lowercase letter "L" at end, not the number 1.)

[LinuxNoob]

Ok yourbestitguy I am not a whiz at this by no means, However, It seems to me that you are over thinking things or over preparing things.
1.) The laptop you are trying to install on you don't care to keep windows xp on. (trash it)
2.) You have already set up partitions for Beryl (LinuxLite 2.0) and a ghost win xp. (no need to)
3.) All you need to do (IMHO) is to wipe the drive clean completely and use the live cd to boot up your laptop and then install from there. (Live CD will do everything for you)

4.) If your Live CD does not seem to work you can also use an usb device to install Beryl with. It is real simple and I have found Unetbootin to work very well not only in LL 2.0 but also in Windows. If you need help with that let me know.

ohjrson

Agreed

I would also like to add to this with saying that after you have linux installed you can use VIRTUAL BOX to install windows and use windows through that. After you can just remove it without worrying about partitions . I think! I never had a problem with that.

This could be a bit advanced for you unless you have done this in windows already. Linux is all about boldly going where you have never gone before.

[ohjrson]

Ok yourbestitguy I am not a whiz at this by no means, However, It seems to me that you are over thinking things or over preparing things.
1.) The laptop you are trying to install on you don't care to keep windows xp on. (trash it)
2.) You have already set up partitions for Beryl (LinuxLite 2.0) and a ghost win xp. (no need to)
3.) All you need to do (IMHO) is to wipe the drive clean completely and use the live cd to boot up your laptop and then install from there. (Live CD will do everything for you)

4.) If your Live CD does not seem to work you can also use an usb device to install Beryl with. It is real simple and I have found Unetbootin to work very well not only in LL 2.0 but also in Windows. If you need help with that let me know.

ohjrson

[rokytnji]

 Being a team member on a couple of distros, and the resident Guinea Pig on what kernels will work on resident gear.
Especially old stuff like iBM T23 Pentium 3 and Panasonic CF-48 laptops I own besides a old Amrel Toughbook.

Sometimes a boot cheat code is needed to get a older cpu and newer kernel not to panic when they meet each other.
My experiences are with cutting edge Debian, Liqourix, and Puppy Linux kernels. So boot cheat codes vary from distro to distro.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions

I cannot stress how important a md5sum check needs to be done before burning a image, before giving my report on a test of a new kernel
for a new distro release.

Sometimes walking away and letting it sit on kernel panic while you make a cup of tea or coffee surprises you when you come back and see the boot process finish also. I have seen that also happen.

Valtam can tell you I have tried his experimental kernels and reported back my findings on them.
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/index.php?topic=474.msg4189#msg4189
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/index.php?topic=474.msg4183#msg4183

[yourbestITguy]

Hello yourbestITguy, "Kernel panic - not syncing: No working init found"
Seems to be Solved Here, does this help ?

My reply
Well, no, bitsnpcs, it doesn't solve the problem. Not really. 
Nice try though. Thanks.
It appears all of that information is if you just want to use a disc with no image of windows and so are willing to wipe it clean. Is that what your getting at? I'm supposed to be able to install Linux alongside Windows. I don't care about losing Winndows on the LAPTOP I'm installing Linux Lite on, but I DO care about saving some of it when I install some flavor of full Linux on my big desktop.

I'm using the laptop as a test run and to get everything working on it, in an environment similiar to what I would have on my big computer.

So I don't want to blow off the hard drive on the laptop (or the big one) unless I just have to. If you can paste and post here the info with a visible URL to the info for me I would really appreciate it a lot more.

[bitsnpcs]

Hello yourbestITguy,

"Kernel panic - not syncing: No working init found"
Seems to be Solved Here, does this help ?

[yourbestITguy]

Thanks Valtam and LinuxNoob I will establish offline communications with one of you if needed and try not to bother you too much. Here's a quick reply update post to the original post by [email protected].

I've been hunting around for answers on my own since the post last night and found this: [http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14183/beginner-geek-how-to-burn-an-iso-image-to-a-disc using ImgBurn] I started a vote on: "which is easier for a beginner, ImgBurn or BurnImage?"

It seems the problem I had was in simply not understanding how to use BurnImage, to burn an ISO. Thanks Valtam, but I had tried everyway including the one you showed me (without success) so I found that ImgBurn would actually be more intuitive, especially with the tutorial at the above website! In the manual BurnImage is the first listed option, but should be the LAST, with ImgBurn the first, due to the fact it's easier to use and learn fast. (my opinion, I shouldn't vote on the vote I started!   

I've successfully booted into the Linux Lite 2.20 ISO setup screen (gorgeous by the way  ) on an old HP Omnibook Notebook

Pertinent specs for you geek guys and gals (or vice versa gals):
I forgot the exact memory size for the Notebook, and it was barely running Win XP - go figure (had trouble resetting the pagefile for virtual mem all the time), even though this is the original OS for the device, so it should be ample memory for Linux LIte OS Version 2.20.

I will post a screenshot I'm preparing (need to edit, crop, etc) now showing the burn with an error about the SPEED. There is a speed error. I set ImgBurn to 4X manually which is the recommended write speed on the Linux Lite Manual at https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/install.html.

The drive's write speed minimum is 8X (it will go much higher to at least 48X I believe, but that's just a little of minutia to the issue here at hand).

I would think the ImgBurn program would compensate for the speed setting being different than the requested setting and adjust accordingly. And, using this method I was able to get to the initial Linux OS install screen finally (yay!). This was after trying to burn the OS as an image file using BurnImage about 6 or 7 times with no luck (ya'll owe me $7 for blank discs (yuck  )

The only new issue, still related to the original post, by me (yourbestITguy), is this:
After getting the startup menu for Linux Lite (at this time I have my stinky little copy of Win XP sitting in virtual drive E (25GB). The drive partition was setup using Windows drive partition tool that's run before setting up Windows. I didn't format C at all, just drive D and of course E. I set up the little Winders (mispelled on purpose but don't tell Bill Gates, shhhh) on E, left D blank, and C RAW for Linux to load on cuz that's were I'd like the old girl.
HP OminiBook HDD Custom Partion Setup Specs:
The drive is partitioned in this configuration:
One HDD of 80GB (all calcs are before automatic overhead):
Drive C is now approximately 28GB
Virtual Drive D (a second partion) is 27GB
(This is the primary spaces assigned for Linux Lite)
With a tiny drive on at the end in never never land for Ghost Windows sized to 25GB.
* Windows XP Pro only needed about 18GB without updates before. No updates are to be installed and the Ghost Windows will likely be deleted later to recover drive space for Linux Lite OS :-)
Here is now the CURRENT issue (keeping on the same thread):
I boot into Linux Lite OS startup screen OK but get a message to wit:
(I'm typing this, trying to be verbatim)

[ 3.159391] Kernel panic - not syncing: No working init found. Try passing init=option to kernel. See Linux Documentation/init.txt for guidance.

I'll try to [/color]hunt the unit.txt file up over in the manual[/b], but in the meantime, could someone let me know if I'll be able to grab a log file out of this when it's over so I can scrutinize it and perhaps help out other newbies later?

I'm not a newbie to 'puters just a newbie to Linux and I [/font]wannalearnallaaboutit and I'm willing to teach others. I like to operate under the spirit of the Creative Commons License v 3.0 for shared content on the web because I feel it's for the common good of mankind and not just to line the pockets of those that can afford to overpower the little guy with investors! Rant done.

Thanks guys and dolls. I'll check back with the screen shot and what I figure out about the error. If you have a good idea so I don't have to speed read the manual about how to solve the immediate problem I would definitely be forever in gratitude for all of your help and I will pass it on to others as best I can. 

[Jerry]

yourbestITguy, lets tackle this one issue at a time so that we can tick off each issue as it is solved.

Burning the image to CD using Burnware

Select Burn Image (top middle option)



Next make sure your writer is set and set the speed to the lowest possible setting.
Under Disk Image Path, browse to the Linux Lite iso file, and finally click on the Burn button.



If all went well, you can now boot the Linux Lite CD from a reboot, ensuring in your BIOS you have your pc set to boot from CD as the first option.

[LinuxNoob]

Hi I was browsing some of the forums as usual and noticed your VERY long post. haha

After reading most of it I decided to give it a shot. I have been testing about 4 different distros of linux for the last week or so. I just finished installing lite and tried it for a day to feel it out.

I'm no expert but I have some experience under my belt. It sounds like your burning the disc as a data disc when it should be burnt as an image file. I think as an image file it's created with a boot loader program to start the install. I also believe that Linux Lite has a live CD built in too so you could run it with out installing it too. You know so you can try it out and see if you like it and all the features.

In windows I used to use a burning program called Alcohol 120 and there are a few other kinds of that nature of software. Look for a program that can mount disk images and rn them like a cd rom player with out a player also called emulators.

Another option is http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ and install it from a USB. I believe the program your looking for is called UUI (UPDATED (09/12/14) Universal USB Installer - Easy as 1 2 3) < click that link from that page. If you can't figure out the burning the disk thing this is a real option.

Oh and remember that in some bios's require you to select the drive that should be accessed first while the computer starts. Some computers allow you to press F8 or F5 or F12 to get a boot option (remember?) So you can select the USB as a starting drive or the CDROM.

Another thing I have learned to do is to check the MD5 checksum of the downloaded Image file with the one located on the download page before you burn it or apply it to the usb stick. They should match or your image file is corrupt. Before I burn it to disk my software allows me to check the MD5 Checksum value and I just verify it from there. After I burn a copy I add it with the rest of them like a serial killer. lol

I'll be checking back to hear how it's going later. Good luck

[yourbestITguy]

I know this is a long post, but I've tried several times to burn the ISO nfilename: linux-lite-2.0-32bit to an old HP Omnibook Laptop via the CD. I'm either not burning it as an image correctly or making some other error, but this is really getting frustrating!

I'm not a novice with computers but I am with Linux. My old Windows XP system has treated me well, but now that damned Bill Gates is forcing a hardware and software upgrade to my computer by having his little "end of life" coming up on OCT !4, 2014. I've been trying to get it on the old laptop for a couple of weeks now with no success.

Once I know how to do it by installing it to the old laptop I'll stick a copy of LINUX on my big nice desktop computer that I built from the ground up myself.

Could somebody please open a dialouge with me to help me resolve the issues I'm having in my first try(s) at installing Linux Lite to my laptop?

I've tried all of this:
burned the OS 4 different times to 4 different CDs, using different types of CDs (standard silver (HP) and blue colors (NOT Blue ray).
used the recommended Burnware Free (version 7.3: on it's compilation screen for DATA: it has an option to Burn a Boot Disc, Custom Disc. on it's compilation screen for DISK IMAGES it has: Burn Image, Make ISO, and Make Boot ISO.

I think I've tried just about all of them but it's so confusing to know which one is right, and so far no success. I'm sick of Windows and Microsoft now and do not want to have any of their money grubbing products on my computer! So I don't care about data destruction on the laptop. I DO care on the big nice computer though.

Originally I wanted to just blow off the whole hard drive and have nothing but Linux Lite but all I got no matter what was the ability to fdisk, setver, format and command prompt from the "Burn a Boot Disc under DATA category. I had no options, so I FDISK the HD into 3 partions, one for "Ghost Windows" only 25 GB in size (I'll likely just delete it later - see below for why I resorted to this.

I gave that up since I was having so many issues that I reinstalled a copy of Windows XP on a little tiny partion (I'm not going to be using it, just to try to get the CD ISO FILE) intending to use Windows Explorer to go to the CD and double-click the ISO, but I just get a message "Windows doesn't know how to open this file" then it suggest some website I'm not familiar with to open the file and I don't think it's going to help, probably try to decompile the LINUX LITE OS file!

I downloaded gparted-live-0.19.1-4-i486 thinking maybe the partioning issue was a problem, but now am hesitant to go to all the trouble to keep spinning my wheels with all this back and forth.

I have a lot of documentation reading to do to bring myself up to speed and get it installed and used to using it on the old Laptop so I can get it up on my good desktop, and would like to do so before the Bill Gates crowd decides to pull the plug on Oct 16. I wrote to their support asking what would happen, would it just die and stop working, or just be vulnerable, or no support fixes (I've always just fixed it myself anyway because they are too expensive and I know what to do about 99 per cent of the time - I'm a geek). Of course they send NO ANSWER and you know, I was starting to learn computers back when Windows 3.0 had just came out. I remember getting a lot of jobs adding memory to people's computers because everybody had to have more, and since then they've continued the trend and just gotten worse and worse and I'm FED UP with MICKEYRSOFT!

So please, please, work with me to determine what I'm doing wrong. Once I get to the start screen after the bootup, I'll probably be just fine, but it's getting to the INSTALL screen I just can't seem to find. PLEASE HELP. And don't just send a message that "it sounds like blah blah blah" without sending me a list of things to try, a RESOLUTION for it, OK?

Sorry about the rant but I'm just so frustrated and feel like I'm under the gun because I don't want to mess with Windows. I meant to make the switch years ago but the documentation was always so lengthy and I could never find the time to sit down and study it. Now I'm forced to.

Please: LET'S GET STARTED, OK?