32 or 64 bit advice

[Wirezfree]

@cricketol

The main motivator for this was a pure can it be done and some fun.
There are a lot of cheap(especially Chinese) Netbooks/Media devices all based around similar hardware,
they have limited disk space 32GB & 2GB memory available, all non-upgradeable.
My conclusion is you can get a cheapish small device for "on-the-go" and still have Linux Lite.

These Intel Chips are pretty good.
The N3xxx series vs a common J1900 Celeron 50% less power and good performance.

Also they compete very well with the common mid range Core Duo's,
They benchmark @ 1200 ~1800, but take 5 ~10 X more power(35~65 watt)

[cricketol]

i had to install it before i could really play with linux lite 2.8 i could not update it and install anything but it make sense because your just loading an iso image so you cant do much then just look at everything unless you install on a separate usb drive then it should run fine try that and update it you may be able to clone it to your base HD for an easy way to have everything run but on a basic spin-up HD just install it its it can rewrite nearly an infinite amount of times. but a usb you can only do a small amount of times if anything use a smaller 40 gb drive as a " scrap drive for os testing to see if you like it or not before you install it permanently

hope this helps that is more less what i was doing till my main ssd died not im planing to boot with a pcmcia compact flash 32gb drive as boot and a 2 tb HD for storage

[Wirezfree]

Just a quick update on LL 2.8 on Stream 11 with kernel 4.5.0
I had everything working except "Bluetooth", I now that working.

I won't bore you with all the details, having visited many, many sites & tried a myriad of suggestions, in the end it was a very simple fix.
I found the solution in a comment at the end of a solution for a different type of Broadcom Bluetooth device, but thought I would try it.

I found this:

For Ubuntu 15.10+ and 14.04 with kernels 4.2+ the second command should be

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sudo cp BCM20702A0-0a5c-216f.hcd /lib/firmware/brcm/BCM.hcd

The clue was was comment on kernel 4.2+.
I renamed my BCMxxxxxxx.hcd to just BCM.hcd
Bingo... It works

Link to post, 1st answer, see comment.

[LinuxNoob]

I know if the iso is installed onto a usb there is an option to have the usb hold a portion of a partition  as empty space to have it persistent between boots( which allows you to install software on the USB ) and that allows you to save changes. However that option has to be taken advantage of at the creation of the usb live media.

[firenice03]

I'm not 100% sure - but I didn't think you could "install" in a live environment, its semi-persistent you can drop files onto it (/home) but they are not wrote to the disk, a reboot will revert back...

[Colin23erk]

With my track record I would like to fully evaluate 2.8 - 64 bit on my machine before committing to installing it on my hard disk . At the moment I am unhappy that I cannot do an " Update "or add programs using " Lite Software "

Does anyone else have a problem with Update - With me it never gets past     -   http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en_us   -    when trying  to update sources [Updateing Software sources - please wait ....  ]  dialogue then I get an Error Message --" couldn't fetch the package cache information lists "

[firenice03]

I'd stick to the 64-bit as you wont have to go with Chromium...

Nevermind the updates - you're going to have failures on both "bits"
32 = Chrome needs removed
64 = Chrome needs updated

Thus far it looks like you're only in the live environment and haven't installed??

The wifi on the 3.19 kernel should work although "maybe buggy" from some of the posts I posted - where the newer kernel resolved..
Buggy could be, stability or drops... but 3.19 should get you installed and connected..

You are running on USB so it will be slower than when installed.

If everything is checking out for the most part and to your liking, you're probably good to go...

[torreydale]

This appears to be related to the Google Chrome 32 bit issue I mentioned earlier.  See this link for the solution:  https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/installing-software/fix-for-google-chrome-on-linux-lite/

[Colin23erk]

Not going well- I can boot 2.8 using  usb drive OK but it very slow

I can log on to Wifi normally

Snag 2--- cannot update L L  - cannot download  Message----  couldn't fetch the package cache information lists --
cannot load chromium using Lite Software
Tried using Synaptic   

Tried 32bit but thats the same

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Even on my Samsung, that has been running 2.6 and 2.8 since it was release OK ,  i tried to install chromium but get the same problem

These are the results from the Samsung that I am using to prepare this Reply - The internet appears to be working OK otherwise

Menu>system>Lite software >>>Error
From -/ Var/Log / Lite-software.log
[/quote][03/24/16 14:34:38] ERROR: Updating sources has failed.[/size]

>Install Updates >>> Error creating List ---  couldn't fetch the package cache information lists.

Just managed to Install Chromium using Synaptic  but Update and Lite Software still got problems -

Looks like the Gremlins have been waiting for me - loosing the will



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[torreydale]

If you're using Linux Lite to create a bootable USB of an ISO file, you can use the program Disks (Menu > Settings > Disks).  After opening the application, select your USB drive on the left.  Then from the settings/cog wheel in the upper right, select Restore Disk Image.  When the popup window opens, select your ISO file and click on Start Restoring.

[Wirezfree]

For creating Bootable USB sticks in Windows I always used Rufus, never any issues, and it is quick.
Just select the USB stick, select the .ISO file, Start.

[Colin23erk]

Hi


Snag No ! -- I followed the LL Help Manua
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[size=inherit][/size][/font][size=inherit]Win32DiskImager [/size][/font]allows you to create a bootable Live USB drive. Download it from [size=inherit]here[/size].

for some reason when I Browse for the ISO it cannot see it
Is it because its 64bit not 32bit


LinuxLive Usb Creator sees it OK Giving that a try - I have used it OK before

[Wirezfree]

In the US a quick look on Amazon shows lots of cheap WiFi devices..
Looks just like with Radio Gear, we pay the $ amount in £'s, $5 vs £5($7)
I would take a gamble on this RTL based one does say LInux also..


GL ~ 73

[n1ksn]

Thanks for all the details, Wirezfree.  I've had similar experiences with my Gateway LT40 notebook with distributions other than LL when distro browsing.  If I make another trip to the pawn shop, I'm going to look for something smallish (like 13 inches), but with an Ethernet connection like the LT40, although I suppose the USB wifi sticks aren't that expensive.

Andy

[Wirezfree]

It appears there are variants of the Stream 11, inc one with a N2840 vs N3050 slightly better CPU, but it consumes slightly more power.
I did the 2.8 64 bit install which comes with Kernel 3.19. I installed 4.5.0 which appears to have resolved some random video artefacts.


Here's a thread on the LL Kernels, Jerry post updates when new one's are available, the most recent being 4.5.0

G.L