on waking from suspend: panel text missing etc.

[Searchernow]

Suspend & Hibernate on Linux in general [member=7079]Searchernow[/member] is historically troublesome. On some hardware, it's perfect, on others, not so. It's luck of the draw for what hardware you run. Don't hate us. Consider all the freedoms you're getting in linux vs MS. Lock is a great option, at least you have security that way. Starting from suspend only to auto-login leaves your pc wide open. Food for thought.

Thanks Jerry,
it was more my attempt (on this occasion) to just leave the computer running, albeit with display set to go off after 20 mins, then an hour or more later finding I'd to use password to resume (ie it was not from suspend) .....

I'm trying running just on external monitor since yesterday, who knows...!

But no - I don't hate Linux Lite! I love it. When I'm not having these crashes it works very well and I enjoy using it.
I love the ethos of a community project, free to those who can't afford to pay, and not linked with certain very violent people....
Aso it doesn't expect me to study linux, I've enough to learn and do with cad software (on my Win7 pc) and life in general without that.

I suspected it might be a hardware issue, though that is not definitely established in my case. I guess that Windows installed on various brands of PCs is not a standard Windows, but customized to each computer and its features. So our installation of Lite on various computers is bound to (?) occasionally encounter some problems. (just guessing here ...)

I hope the Lite laptop project takes off, I'd love to think of a ready to run Lite laptop, customized to the hardware, available at a good price for established and new computer users - who want to buy a great product, not become the product.

Anyway, I've downloaded a fresh copy of 3.8 so as time allows, backups etc, I'll do a new install.

[Valtam]

I haven't kept up with all your threads, but please feel free to post a question as soon as you get an issue. All the best

[Searchernow]

Well, I didn't have to re-install LL 3.8, the existing 3.8 is still running fine.

All I did, as mentioned above - and inspired by another unrelated thread by someone who wanted to run on an external monitor with the laptop display turned off - was to run on external monitor only. It's 5 weeks now with no crashes. I use suspend a lot when I'm not using the computer, no problems.

I will stick with 3.8 for now, maybe try 4 series if I get the time. I'm happy.

I'll give it a while more, then mark this solved.

[Searchernow]

Afraid I got further recurring crashes as above, but I am trying another solution - so far it is working.

I wait a bit then write it up here, if it still works.

[MS]

Session interruption instantly hungs the system in my case, including the screen lock, but maybe in particular this is the screen lock. The system seems to work in the background, knowing by the web-browser output heard in the speakers at one time, but the primary - and only - display is completely stuck. Hard reset necessary. This may be a bigger issue than it seems, as if when someone for example watches a movie and the system goes to sleep, to never be able to continue current session. Immersion break complete.

[Searchernow]

Session interruption instantly hungs the system in my case, including the screen lock, but maybe in particular this is the screen lock. The system seems to work in the background, knowing by the web-browser output heard in the speakers at one time, but the primary - and only - display is completely stuck. Hard reset necessary. This may be a bigger issue than it seems, as if when someone for example watches a movie and the system goes to sleep, to never be able to continue current session. Immersion break complete.

Your demons may be different ones to mine, but the cause just might be similar. I'm not knowledgeable re the finer points of code, so I'll just say what I did.

(and by the way in my case the browsers still worked ok, having their own font).

What I figured was that as the problem was always at the point of waking maybe there was some clash of functions, or possibly too much going on for my hardware to handle.

First: I used have SD card in place and had Backups utility set to automatically backup daily. So on waking here were two extra routines going on - SD drive reading and Backup utility checking to see if backup had already happened today.
I disabled the latter utility (to manual) and removed the SD.  I did get an improvement, but another crash after 9 days.

Second: I looked for whatever else was happening at wake-up - Wifi.  Both wifi (already selected) and its connecting to already running hotspot - so after that I always de-select Enable Wifi (from the system tray on the Panel) then Suspend (always selecting from Logout menu on Panel).
After waking I then Enable Wifi.

I have now 4 weeks with only one crash - that happened when I woke just about 4 mins after Suspend - my guess was that there was still things going on in the background so soon after Suspend, so now I wait much longer.

It is of course all guesswork, but it does seem to have worked for me, and I think does make sense, especially using a generic Linux OS to replace a OEM customised Win 7 OS.

I hope these remedies lead to improvements for you, but play around Settings Manager>Power manager as well.

I've enjoyed using Linux Lite (still 3.8 ) .

[MS]

I have disabled the screen lock function, the only applying specific power management feature is on closing the lid of the laptop, which simply ought to switch off the display, for the sake of power saving, but for some reason, it still locks the session, despite the function being turned off. It starts to become a nightmare, especially that it is my custom to put the lid down when I am leaving the desk for a while or two. Fortunately, Chromium browser is so kind that it lets to restore the interrupted session. But I do feel sorry for anyone doing productive work, such as writing, video editing and else.

[Searchernow]

I use the LogOut menu and select Suspend, which works in a couple of seconds. I leave the lid open.
Last thing in the day I Suspend as above then also close the lid overnight.

I think in terms of Suspend it is not necessarily a good idea to depend on the hardware (e.g. lid closing) to work the same way as the machine did with an installation of Windows, which I assume would be customised to the particular OEM hardware.

Linux Lite works very well, but it comes with its own set of tools to achieve what we want, which I have found quick and easy to get used to. I hope this is helpful.

[MS]

LinuxLite lives up to what it promises but it is not in a perfect shape yet.

I found my way around the problem omitting the Session Lock feature entirely, which means, I never use password login on wakeup - to me, not a problem, to someone out there, could possibly be.

It is perhaps pretty important to check the "save session for further logins" option in the "Log Out" window of the "Log Out" section, entered via the desktop menu bar.

The laptop is set to enter sleep mode per closing the lid and thusfar it works fine now.

I have just checked switching off the display option per closing of the lid and also it works fine.

Therefore, we apparently have two problem makers: the session lock and the session save features.

EDIT:

It seems that just for the sake of succesfully escaping sleep mode without the screen lock along the way, the "save session" feature is unnecessary.

[Valtam]

You simply won't get a perfect OS. Windows is not perfect. Millions of MS Support of threads is proof of that.