[stevef]

Finally found a bit of time and completed a Lite series 7 to series 8 upgrade on a mid range desktop with AMD GPU and am very impressed.

Minor issues encountered:
UI and Icon Themes and Window Manager Style tweaks made to the version 7 system needed to be done again.

Previously reported issues:
Firefox - Just worked, no requirement to delete cache, but it is set to clear data when closing anyway.
Network - Just worked, it is wired, not wifi.

Dry Run Recommendation:
Does a dry run automatically flag situations in which a full run should not be attempted ?
If not, what does a user do with the mass of information generated ?

[Leviebon]

I'm truely impressed by the new features and the whole slimming-down philosophy that LL is offering in Series 8. What I've really liked so far is Lite Core, HiDPI feature, Lite ISO creation tool, Wiki Resources, Lite Themes and the overall professional look of all LL's apps.  I've been a user since LL2.2 and moved on until recently but LL8 is definitely an eye-opener.  The install process in VM was a breeze, will move to hardware soon.  Kudos to Jerry and the team.

[valtam]

I'm truely impressed by the new features and the whole slimming-down philosophy that LL is offering in Series 8. What I've really liked so far is Lite Core, HiDPI feature, Lite ISO creation tool, Wiki Resources, Lite Themes and the overall professional look of all LL's apps.  I've been a user since LL2.2 and moved on until recently but LL8 is definitely an eye-opener.  The install process in VM was a breeze, will move to hardware soon.  Kudos to Jerry and the team.

Thank you 🙂

[Şerban S.]

Running LL 8.0

After having some adventures installing LL 8.0, I came to the following results:

Dell Precision T1700, Intel Core i7-4790, Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen
https://www.linuxliteos.com/hardware_res...ch_results
---
Laptop ASUSTeK VivoBook M415U, AMD Ryzen 5 5500U, Radeon Graphics
linuxliteos.com/hardware_results.php?q=AMD+Ryzen+5+5500U#search_results


Special mention:

Installing LL 8.0 on ASUSTeK VivoBook M415U, went flawlessly:
- Boot medium = Ventoy Disk with LL 8.0 ISO (among others);
- Partitioning: GParted, for formatting /dev/sda1 as FAT32, 512 MB, boot/esp;
- Boot LL 8.0 ISO;
- Run the LL 8.0 Live;
- Start installation sequence;
- Partition Manager: set the /dev/sda1 mount point to /boot/efi; format the /dev/sda2 as / (Root) and set the mount point; set mount point for /home; set the mount points for the other partitions. I kept a 3 GB SWAP, although it didn't seem necessary so far.
- Reboot;
- Run Updates + reboot;
-  Start customizing XFCE.

Except some minor issues with system graphic themes (ugly icons mostly), the overall behavior, is great!

Thanks, Jerry!

Tested so far:

Lite Terminal. Looks great and I love the green matrix for the packages (I use the sudo apt upgrade sequence).
Lite Info. Works great.
Lite System Monitor. I use it from time to time to get the info, mostly on CPU/GPU and SWAP. (RAM).
Lite Software. I use a few pieces of software listed there. Works great!
Lite Tweaks. Very important. I usually do the system cleaning with it. I also use Bleachbit, but I'd rather check the status with it, than use it as the only cleaner.
Lite Upgrade. For now, difficult to say, but since I used it for all upgrades (5.x ... 7.x) without any problems, I guess it will work when it comes to that.
Lite Series Upgrade. Used it 4 times so far. Never had or noticed any abnormal behavior. I find it a great tool, considering the "heavy lifting" job it does. Thanks, again!

I hope I will be able to add the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 Slim to the list, but so far, i still have issues with the GPU.

Best regards!

[valtam]

Thank you for the Feedback Şerban S. much appreciated

[LL-user]

Hi Jerry & team,

I would like to understand the reasoning behind abandoning the Xfce very own, well established and default terminal application (xfce4-terminal) and spending your valuable time on creating & implementing the customized lite-terminal?
This all against the background of our target audience (Windows users, i.e. as little CLI as possible - at least at the beginning) and the very first advertised feature of Linux Lite: simple.

Many thanks

[valtam]

How are going against our target audience with what is arguably a simpler Terminal? I consider the time invested in replacing other people's software with our own original software time well spent.

[Şerban S.]

How are going against our target audience with what is arguably a simpler Terminal? I consider the time invested in replacing other people's software with our own original software time well spent.

Hi!

Two things:

1. I like the new terminal. I use it for updates and the idea of hilighting the new packages is very efficient.
While the previous version just listed the packages using the chosen color (White, in my case), now I have it in green. Prevents scattering attention on the other details on the screen.

2. XFCE Terminal. I guess that if the target audience is "Newbie", then the Terminal, really matters nothing. I used it for a long time and I guess who really wants it, can do it easily with

Code:

sudo apt install xfce4-terminal

As for the rest, I'm not so sure everybody will hit the Terminal button more than once or twice in a year. For this amount of usage, the current terminal is very handy... If anyone wants to test it.
Besides... as far as I remember, the idea of moving to Linux (whatever flavor), is: "Highly customizable".
On the other hand, if you really want to customize (whatever...), you have to "get your feet wet". So, learning some bash is kinda mandatory; otherwise, why would you need any kind of Terminal?

A matter of taste.
As a final touch, I guess this is a matter of taste. You are in a world (Linux) that loves the freedom of choice.
Everybody can make a different choice at any time. While the standard installation will create a /home directory, the more sophisticated user will surely go for a /dev/sdaX/home. In this case, all the custom choices will stay there, whatever might be the number of installations you perform. 
I want to skip the objection "What if I have a small target media?", but if anyone feels we should write down a layout, we can go as low as 100 GB. Maybe lower.
Nowadays, given the amount of storage in use (4 TB NVME ?!!), I guess even if you want to squeeze the last drop of space/CPU/RAM, you can do it. That's why I stay on Linux. Particularly, Linux Lite, but this is my choice, doesnt't have to be everyone's.
A friend of mine likes Manjaro (He is a cameraman and does a lot of editing). To make you laugh and maybe angry some people, I recommended him this. (He has a laptop with Linux Lite 8.0 though...) Our previous history, back some 30 years I guess, was Red Hat 4.2, then Mandrake/ Mandriva. Some Fedora also. Some others I forgot about...
Getting back to the idea of taste, nobody will ever be able to release whatever Linux to make happy the entire Linux Community. But surely, customizing features, will be always here and will be more and more refined. (Well, supposing we're not going to blow a huge hole in the middle of the Earth...).

My best regards!

[valtam]

You touched on what else I forgot to mention which is a very important focus of Linux Lite, keeping people out of the Terminal. Our software choices and code development has to be good enough that it eliminates or at least mitigates the need to venture into CLI land 🙂

[LL-user]

This is exactly one of the main points I tried to make. If the users' expectation and even our own goal is that they hardly need to touch the terminal, then the resources would be far better invested either in this very goal or other areas to make the transition from Windows to Linux smoother and LL more honed.

Beside the fact, that the lite-terminal with its CSD breaks the consistent look, it actually can be more confusing to new users than a simple blinking cursor. Maybe all my users are special, but not one single one of them presented with both terminals side by side preferred the lite-terminal over the xfce4-terminal (the latter cleaned up from any fancy prompt). No need to shoot the messenger... am just passing on feedback.

If a (new) user is searching for help, often the first step is utilising a search engine. He will find plenty with the standard terminal of Xfce.

I would understand if the standard terminal coming with the Xfce desktop is lacking very important functionality (can also be simplicity) to cater for our target audience. The lack of this aspect and the expectation/goal pointed out at the beginning make lite-terminal seem unreasonable.

And to just be able to call software our own, esp. in the field of open source, is quite puzzling to read and a weak justification of making things (incl. possible transition to another distro) more complicated by customization.


@Şerban
By installing the xfce4-terminal and purging the lite-terminal the switch is unfortunately by far not done! Please have a try
The only reason I actually wrote the OP was after spending far too much time on reverting back to the standard terminal of a standard Xfce desktop! Otherwise I would have just added the switch to my already very long list of necessary adjustments I need to make  before handing over a Linux Lite installation to a new user to provide them with a better experience and reducing the support calls.

The colour coding of the apt output has nothing to do with the lite-terminal!