[ralphy]

[member=2]Jerry[/member]

I was going to look into moving Linux Lite User Manager into Glade + Python (GTK 3.12) to get rid of the tabs and make it a more friendly Desktop app but I have halted the progress cos' I've noticed that Linux Lite already provides the "User Settings" app which covers exactly the same as "Linux Lite User Manager" does.

My question: Why do we need 2 different applications in Linux Lite to do exactly the same things when "User Settings" covers everything that's needed in terms of functionality? I'd happily get rid of "Linux Lite User Manager".

Is it there a specific reason to have "Linux Lite User Manager" in the installation too?

[valtam]

Users and Groups is not provided deliberately, it's a dependency that gets pulled in during the build process (gnome-system-tools), but I've hidden it in the Menu.
I wish they would divide up these apps, but hey, what are you gonna do.

The GNOME System Tools are a fully integrated set of tools aimed to make easy
the job that means the computer administration on an UNIX or Linux system.
They're thought to help from the new Linux or UNIX user to the system
administrators.

Its main advantages are:
* Full integration with the new GNOME Control Center.
* An user-friendly interface to carry out the main administration tasks.
* The use of a common user interface in every system.
* A common structure that makes easy the development of new system tools.
Nowadays there are tools for managing:
- Users and groups
- Date and time
- Network options
- Services
- Shares (NFS and Samba)

I would encourage you to carry on with moving Linux Lite User Manager into Glade + Python as all our apps should be ready for 18.04LTS well before it's released.

[ralphy]

I appreciate your encouragement; but I will not be putting energy into this atm because it makes me duplicate something that already exists in the system. We can come back to it later anyways. I hope you understand me.

There are other apps we could consider developing with Glade and Python which could get us out of the zenity/yad limitations. I would like to evaluate those first.

[valtam]

Keep in mind that I do not use these programming languages. I am happy to have one or two, but not the entire suite of Lite Apps move to other languages. If a developer left, or was away for an extended period of time, I would be left holding the ball, with zero knowledge. The majority of our apps will stay in Zenity/Yad for now. I'm happy, and our users are happy with the options we offer them, many of which are not available in other linux based distributions.

[ralphy]

That's a fair point and it makes sense after all. Thank you!

[valtam]

Cheers Ralphy :)

[ralphy]

Cheers Ralphy :)

Just so you know, the reason why I was looking at moving apps over is because I was thinking about future versions where translations will become a problem. I don't know how we are going to translate these apps from bash zenity into a different language other than English on the fly. I have never done it before mainly because I've never had the need for it but I certainly don't know out of the top of my head how to implement something that will translate our apps running in bash.  (please excuse my ignorance)

[valtam]

I'm not overly concerned about translations at this point in our growth. There are other, more pressing priorities. Translations are likely to land in Series 5.x Baby steps ;)

[ralphy]

[member=2]Jerry[/member],

Lite User Manager has received some love. This application is still a little buggy but a lot better. I noticed that someone tried to make it usable and in fact whoever did so ended up mutilating the application instead. See, there are few dialogs that should alert users when a task is not completed but because of the way the application was mutilated, they broke.

Anyways, here is the updated version (I will be pushing it to master today)















Current version freezes up for about 10 seconds when creating a New User and entering the wrong Administrator password...  It does not create the New User after unfreezing and does not display the error message to the user. New version does:





Current version freezes up for about 10 seconds when deleting a User and entering the wrong Administrator password...  It does not delete the User after unfreezing and does not display the error message to the user. New version does:




Current version freezes up for about 10 seconds when changing a User groups and entering the wrong Administrator password...  It does not apply the User groups settings after unfreezing and does not display the error message to the user. New version does:






Current version freezes up for about 10 seconds when exiting the application without committing User groups changes and entering the wrong Administrator password when asked...  It does not apply the User groups settings after unfreezing and does not display the error message to the user before exiting out. New version does:

[valtam]

Looks really good Ralphy, looking forward to it :)