LINUX LITE 7.4 FINAL RELEASED - SEE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS SECTION FOR DETAILS


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Linux Lite - Grub in 3.2
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I've heard all the concerns from people about the way Linux Lite handles Grub, especially in respect to multi-booting with other operating systems.

First, let me reiterate that Linux Lite is targeted and Windows people first and foremost. I don't want people to infer from that, that I ignore or place little emphasis on other distros.
In Linux Lite 3.2 I'll default back to the way Grub handles other operating systems. I'm unsure of the outcome of this, and I'll revert back to placing Windows to the fore in 3.4 if it doesn't all work out. So in 3.2, LL should play nicely with other operating systems, time will tell. The Beta will be released in mid to late October. Linux Lite 3.2 will be released 1st November, 2016.
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#2
I noticed after a recent kernel update that Solydx has done the same thing. Previously, last year, it performed the same kind grub takeover as LL. I haven't updated LXDE for a while but I'd bet on this change there too. Seems to be a common complaint, and the Ubuntu terminal access on boot failure was too difficult for most new users to handle. Eventually most popular Linux distros will have to get off legacy anyway the way things are going.

TC
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#3
Testing for this to date has garnished good results, 'Linux Lite' still shows in Grub when multi-booting, after the changes. More testing to come.
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#4
Have now dual booted successfully via Grub with another linux OS freshly installed.
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#5
Thanks Jerry, this was my biggest issue with LL, great distro but it kept 'stuffing-up' my Grub....will return when 3.2 released.
Tom
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#6
Pardon my ignorance, but what was wrong with Grub in LL? I have had LL installed with other distros and all distros appear in the grub menu ok. Two provisos though: I always installed LL after other distro and never installed with Windows.
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#7
(09-11-2016, 11:54 PM)mdavies5 link Wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but what was wrong with Grub in LL? I have had LL installed with other distros and all distros appear in the grub menu ok. Two provisos though: I always installed LL after other distro and never installed with Windows.
Works if LL is the last OS to install.

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(09-11-2016, 11:54 PM)mdavies5 link Wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but what was wrong with Grub in LL? I have had LL installed with other distros and all distros appear in the grub menu ok. Two provisos though: I always installed LL after other distro and never installed with Windows.
Due to a customization in LL's grub, if another Linux distro were in charge of booting the computer it's menu listing for starting LL would fail to work.  The easiest solution has always been to let LL's grub be the one in charge of booting all the OSes.  Since you installed LL last and didn't alter default to install grub to the MBR of the drive, it's grub replaced whatever was in MBR before and took over booting of computer -- therefore you never experienced any problems multi-booting.

Since this distro is aimed at Windows users who are new to Linux, the customization in grub was geared toward making the grub menu better/(easier?) for them to work with when dual-booting with Windows.  (At least, that's my understanding of it.)  I've never dual-booted LL with Windows, so I can't tell you what is different/(better?) about it.  Have recently acquired a used desktop with Win7 on it.  Installed a different Linux distro on it and the standard grub menu choice for Windows seems pretty straight forward to me.
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(09-09-2016, 10:49 AM)Jerry link Wrote: I've heard all the concerns from people about the way Linux Lite handles Grub, especially in respect to multi-booting with other operating systems.

First, let me reiterate that Linux Lite is targeted and Windows people first and foremost. I don't want people to infer from that, that I ignore or place little emphasis on other distros.
In Linux Lite 3.2 I'll default back to the way Grub handles other operating systems. I'm unsure of the outcome of this, and I'll revert back to placing Windows to the fore in 3.4 if it doesn't all work out. So in 3.2, LL should play nicely with other operating systems, time will tell. The Beta will be released in mid to late October. Linux Lite 3.2 will be released 1st November, 2016.
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#10
Glad that you are are looking at this. I had this issue and posted previously about grub. I have overcome this problem with  grub custom_40 entry
menuentry      'Linux Lite 3.0 GNU/Linux'{
set root='hd1,msdos17'
linux /vmlinuz root=UUID=ebd7e224-4faa-47ab-93b4-1ed4d0f4e416 ro
        initrd /initrd.img
}
Hope this helps somebody in the meantime.
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