Linux Lite 7.0 Final Released

[Şerban S.]

FYI - Firefox, Thunderbird are snaps, so in LL 7x I've added the Mozilla/Thunderbird PPA's, no need to get 'the latest' versions. Skype is now a snap too
Lite Tweaks glitches - not concerned about those, unless someone would like to submit the changes

Thanks! 
Yesterday though, the Mozilla PPA throwed an error. Had to disable it.
I'll check again. (I'm on LL 6.6 now).

[sqwuade]

Yes, shouldn't it be 24.04 "Noble" now?  I notice that too Trinidad.

Also, Try booting into "Live" mode and running Google Chrome - it doesn't work for me.

What's the issue in /etc/lsb-release ?

The file on my install looks like this.

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DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=22.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=jammy
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Lite 7.0"
System Restore Utility uses this to tag snapshots.
Snapshots of LL7.0 systems get labelled as '22.04 Jammy'. Confused me on a multi-boot setup until you identified why it was happening.

For Mintstick applications

After installing python3-unidecode does it then work?

Yes.  Thank you.

[Jerry]

FYI - Firefox, Thunderbird are snaps, so in LL 7x I've added the Mozilla/Thunderbird PPA's, no need to get 'the latest' versions. Skype is now a snap too
Lite Tweaks glitches - not concerned about those, unless someone would like to submit the changes

[Jerry]

Since Linux Lite 6.6 cannot be upgraded to 7
What's the EOL for 6.6?

https://www.linuxliteos.com/download.php#roadmap

[Jerry]

What's the issue in /etc/lsb-release ?

The file on my install looks like this.

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DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=22.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=jammy
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Lite 7.0"
System Restore Utility uses this to tag snapshots.
Snapshots of LL7.0 systems get labelled as '22.04 Jammy'. Confused me on a multi-boot setup until you identified why it was happening.

For Mintstick applications

After installing python3-unidecode does it then work?

Yes.  Thank you.

lsb patch uploaded. Install Updates.

[Jerry]

We've always run the file that way (lsb), otherwise it can mess up the updates system.

Fair enough.  It didn't seem consistent with the pattern of previous releases I looked at - was expecting 24.04 and noble rather than 22.04 and jammy.

Ah! I see what you mean, don't know why that didn't get updated. I'll release a fix.

[commodore2]

Since Linux Lite 6.6 cannot be upgraded to 7
What's the EOL for 6.6?

[Şerban S.]

If you try to create the file it will tell you that it already exists. Once I did that the error stopped appearing in the terminal.
TC

There was no directory (file). I created it and the message disappeared, indeed. The problem is that this should work otherwise...
I forgot to let the directory after testing and see what happens in time.
The code needs to be changed, to prevent this latency thing.
Șerban.

[trinidad]

If you try to create the file it will tell you that it already exists. Once I did that the error stopped appearing in the terminal.
TC

[Şerban S.]

/root/.local/share/Trash/files/

Technically not an error. Always shows up when you run from terminal. To make it stop open Thunar as root and show hidden files. Once you've simply found the directory that way the message will just go away the next time you start tweaks. I'd guess it's a PATH that can't be added during install, or an installation artifact given the behavior.

TC

Actually, this message IS about a real error. You can check the existence of '/root/.local/share/Trash/' and there is nothing like that.

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ls: cannot access '/root/.local/share/Trash/files/': No such file or directory
To explain this though, is a little more sophisticated.
It is about the DSP chain and the latency of each hardware piece.
Since each of the components have their own latency and this adds up, we can get to this errors, mostly on the new models of storage (SSD).
Measurements show on a USB 3.0 bus, a read access time of 0,2 msec and sometimes, 0,1 msec.
If the write instruction takes 0,21 msec, than the read instuction will generate a read error, due to the gap of 0,01 msec between the write and read instructions.
I guess it can be solved introducing a pause (delay) of a certain value (wait 0,01 -- for one, or a fake iteration) after the write instruction. Eventually test the created entity, until the error disappears.
While I was working on a program, long ago, I had to read/write in cascade and I got errors. Using a MessageBox, solved the problem and it confused me.
I changed the code in order to test the existence of each written entity and this solved the problem after removing the MessageBox.
By that time, I wasn't aware of the latency issue.
Further more, there were many types of storage I was using and the code only crashed apparently, in a random manner.
Then I understood that different storage units, have different access time, thus, different latency values.

[trinidad]

/root/.local/share/Trash/files/

Technically not an error. Always shows up when you run from terminal. To make it stop open Thunar as root and show hidden files. Once you've simply found the directory that way the message will just go away the next time you start tweaks. I'd guess it's a PATH that can't be added during install, or an installation artifact given the behavior.

TC

[stevef]

We've always run the file that way (lsb), otherwise it can mess up the updates system.

Fair enough.  It didn't seem consistent with the pattern of previous releases I looked at - was expecting 24.04 and noble rather than 22.04 and jammy.

[Şerban S.]

Testing Linux Lite 7.0

First steps

• ISO Download. OK.
• Boot media. Ventoy disk, Ventoy 1.0.98. OK.
• Target machine. Dell Precision T1700.
• Target media. SSD Kingston A400, 480 GB.
• Live test. OK. Nothing special, just wanted to see what came packed up with this version.
• 
  Installation
    Nothing special that worth mentioning. I liked the slideshow, but since I tested the RC1, I already knew it. The setup process in itself, took 10 minutes.
  
  Package update
  
  Some other 5 minutes or so, took the update process:
  
  

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The following upgrades have been deferred due to phasing:
ubuntu-advantage-tools ubuntu-pro-client ubuntu-pro-client-l10n vim-common vim-tiny xxd
The following packages have been kept back:
inxi zenity zenity-common
The following packages will be upgraded:
gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0 google-chrome-stable gstreamer1.0-gl gstreamer1.0-plugins-base gstreamer1.0-x intel-microcode libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6:i386 libc6-dev
libgstreamer-gl1.0-0 libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 libtss2-esys-3.0.2-0t64 libtss2-mu-4.0.1-0t64 libtss2-sys1t64 libtss2-tcti-cmd0t64 libtss2-tcti-device0t64 libtss2-tcti-libtpms0t64
libtss2-tcti-mssim0t64 libtss2-tcti-spi-helper0t64 libtss2-tcti-swtpm0t64 libtss2-tctildr0t64 locales thunderbird
25 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded.


I encountered two errors though: OpenShot PPA and Mozilla PPA.
Nothing beyond repair, though.
I disabled the “perpetrators” and all went as expected.
However, it was annoying, because I never liked being forced to swallow a poisonous pill, coated in sugar. That is, “Snap” & snapd.
I removed it. I forgot though if that was the case with LL 6.x too. If so, I probably removed it long before finishing my custom setup...


Fixing the update errors

While for OpenShot this is nothing like a “mandatory” requirement, I will mention though the solution, for the interested people:
https://www.openshot.org/download/
OpenShot-v3.1.0-x86_64.AppImage
I used it and it works fine.

For Thunderbird on the other hand, in my case, it is a major issue, since I’ve been using it even before switching to Linux long ago, before 2012 when I was on Windows.
So, here are two ways of dealing with that, until the appropriate packages will be released in the PPA.
Debian Package:
https://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/thunderbird/
thunderbird_115.11.0-1~deb12u1_amd64.deb
AppImage:
https://github.com/srevinsaju/Thunderbird-AppImage
Thunderbird-115.5_20231208140222.AppImage



Lite Apps

I never use all Lite Apps frequently.
The most used are Lite Tweaks and Lite Software. From time to time, I also use Lite Info (for updating the HW DB), Lite System Report (the report looks gorgeous!) and Lite Widget. Lite Widget is very useful when I ran multiple versions on the same machine (this is the case now).
I want to mention also the Lite Manual, which is great, even if I use it rarely:
file:///usr/share/doc/litemanual/index.html
One thing I’d like fixed is the missing Telegram from the list.
I also checked the “Remove Software” list and is OK, it only lists the installed Apps.
While Telegram can be installed via Synaptic, it would be nice to have it back in Lite Software, since I use it anyway to install some items. Saves time.


Lite Tweaks glitches

I ran Lite Tweaks, using a bash script that outputs the messages.
Here is the output:

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======ooo OOOOOO ooo======
Script to see what's wrong in Linux Lite 7.0 RC1/ Linux Lite 7.0 with Lite Tweaks
===========================================================
======ooo OOOOOO ooo======
Get the machine and OS info:
Linux Dell-T1700 6.8.0-31-generic #31-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Apr 20 00:40:06 UTC 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Get the current user:
serban
Run Lite Tweaks from CLI:
AUTOREMOVE|RESIDCONFIG|SYSDARCLOGS
/usr/bin/lite-tweaks-super: line 1089: ((: PERCENTAGE = 100 \* 1 / 3 : syntax error: invalid arithmetic operator (error token is "\* 1 / 3 ")
/usr/bin/lite-tweaks-super: line 1089: ((: PERCENTAGE = 100 \* 2 / 3 : syntax error: invalid arithmetic operator (error token is "\* 2 / 3 ")
/usr/bin/lite-tweaks-super: line 1089: ((: PERCENTAGE = 100 \* 3 / 3 : syntax error: invalid arithmetic operator (error token is "\* 3 / 3 ")
Waiting 1 sec...
I am running Lite Tweaks now...
Making the selections...


This message only appears AFTER the Begin OR Quit button WAS CLICKED.
Waiting 1 sec...
Checking the current USER, AFTER working with Lite Tweaks:
serban
Run Lite Tweaks as Root:
[sudo] password for serban:
ls: cannot access '/root/.local/share/Trash/files/': No such file or directory
AUTOREMOVE|SYSDARCLOGS
/usr/bin/lite-tweaks-super: line 1089: ((: PERCENTAGE = 100 \* 1 / 2 : syntax error: invalid arithmetic operator (error token is "\* 1 / 2 ")
/usr/bin/lite-tweaks-super: line 1089: ((: PERCENTAGE = 100 \* 2 / 2 : syntax error: invalid arithmetic operator (error token is "\* 2 / 2 ")
ls: cannot access '/root/.local/share/Trash/files/': No such file or directory
Clicked some button: Begin OR Quit


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Weird-Lite-Tweaks-Spy-02a.sh
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--- THE END! ---
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© Şerban Stănescu, Wed-08-05-2024 - Sat 01-06-2024
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While nothing seemed to go wrong, those errors still apeared.
The progress gauge appears when removing the files and when running twice Lite Tweaks, the options corresponding to the files that can be removed are gone, which means the script does the job properly.

[Jerry]

We've always run the file that way (lsb), otherwise it can mess up the updates system.

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[stevef]

What's the issue in /etc/lsb-release ?

The file on my install looks like this.

Code: [Select]

DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=22.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=jammy
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Lite 7.0"
System Restore Utility uses this to tag snapshots.
Snapshots of LL7.0 systems get labelled as '22.04 Jammy'. Confused me on a multi-boot setup until you identified why it was happening.

For Mintstick applications

After installing python3-unidecode does it then work?

Yes.  Thank you.