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  Update works but no logs - Desktop Widget reports 'never updated'
Posted by: Peejay - 02-13-2018, 05:52 PM - Forum: Other - Replies (13)

For a while I've noticed that the Desktop Widget on a Core2Duo laptop of mine (now running 64bit 3.8 ) has been showing 'never updated' for the update status even though I've performed several updates, including the upgrade to 3.8 (but the problem precedes that).
I saw that the updates script for the widget looks for update dates in the history.log in /var/log/apt/ so had a look at that.
I found that no log existed for updates after 24 November 2017 and that the last entry for that date showed an Update Start Date but not an Update End Date.
No later update has been logged here, but is in LLUpdates.log

So I then did another update to see what happened. It went through the usual prompts without any problem but once it started the package downloads it just disappeared from view altogether - no window, no status icon - but apt processes were clearly active in the Task Manager. When update was completed the LLUpdates.log appeared and seemed to be all in order.

However, history.log remained unchanged and the Desktop Widget still reports 'never updated'.

I'd be grateful for any pointers on how to fix this, which looks to be more of an apt issue rather than anything to do with the widget.

Thank you

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  Firefox and Thunderbird crash immediately after installation in 32-bit v 3.8
Posted by: drrdf - 02-13-2018, 12:37 PM - Forum: Installing Software - Replies (11)

Hi Jerry: I have posted this problem in a thread which claims to have been resolved, but is clearly not so. I have installed Linux lite v 3.8 on two 32 bit PCs (Asrock motherboards, 1 GB RAM, AMD XP CPUs ,1900), and immediately after installation Firefox and Thunderbird will not run, but crash straight away, producing the Mozilla crash report window. F & T however run properly without any problem in the 64-bit version of Linux lite 3.8 on a 64-bit PC.

As I have suggested in that other thread, there are a number of items posted in various places on the Internet and on other OS forums, which suggest that this problem could be due to the wrong versions of Firefox and Thunderbird being included in the distributed OSs - i.e. the 64-bit versions instead of the 32-bit versions.  This would make sense from my observations and is possibly because Firefox and Thunderbird (F & T) are carried over into Linux lite from Ubuntu and at the time the 32-bit version of Linux lite 3.8 was complied Ubuntu had the wrong versions of Firefox and Thunderbird within it; since then Ubuntu have corrected their error, and now have the correct 32-bit versions of F & T included, which is why F & T run properly in the newest release of Ubuntu, but Linux lite have not corrected this error which probably rolled over from Ubuntu?

This would also explain why this problem does not exist in the 3.8 64-bit version of Linux lite. The solution it seems is to delete the present wrong versions of F & T in 32-bit Linux lite and then install the proper 32-bit versions of F & T direct from the Mozilla site. I have not yet done this, but would suggest therefore that these wrong versions of F & T in Linux lite 3.8 should perhaps be corrected.

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  alt image editor to gimp
Posted by: osde8info - 02-13-2018, 10:52 AM - Forum: Tutorials - Replies (1)

alternative image editors to gimp are https://imagej.nih.gov/ij/ and pinta

Code:
# aptitude install pinta

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  xfce4 panel plugins
Posted by: osde8info - 02-13-2018, 10:46 AM - Forum: Tutorials - No Replies

here are some extra xfce4 panel plugins you may like to install

Code:
aptitude install xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-netload-plugin xfce4-diskperf-plugin

then right click on xfce panel and add and move your extra plugins

for bonus points then right click on each plugin and reduce update interval to 1 sec

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  createsysreport: line 580: syntax error near unexpected token `done'
Posted by: osde8info - 02-13-2018, 10:32 AM - Forum: Other - Replies (1)

Code:
$ /usr/scripts/createsysreport
No LSB modules are available.
dpkg-query: error: error writing to '<standard output>': Broken pipe
/usr/scripts/createsysreport: line 580: syntax error near unexpected token `done'
/usr/scripts/createsysreport: line 580: `done'

Code:
$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:    Ubuntu
Description:    Linux Lite 3.8
Release:    16.04
Codename:    xenial

$ uname -a
Linux lili 4.4.0-113-generic #136-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 7 18:00:10 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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  Help with more info about DE
Posted by: redplanet - 02-13-2018, 07:44 AM - Forum: Introductions - Replies (8)

Looong time computer user, just made the plunge into linux this week, haven't used it (*nix) literally since before browsers became "the internet".  I squeezed my windows machine and was able to shrink out a 12G partition, and installed Linux Lite (with grub) on it.  I lovelovelove the setup, being a longtime windows user, it felt like moving into an upgraded home (from a rental) where I finally have say-so over what goes where and how and why.  I have minor issues (scrollbars are very thin and "steppers" missing frequently...  and scary partition questions during install) but I am learning how to install packages, add repositories, the internet is my friend.

OK.  So, I am all excited about linux now.  So I scavenged up another hard drive, chose three distros I wanted to try...  and I installed the latest version of Ubuntu.

DIS.  A.  POINTED!  Apparently the Unity or GNOME, or whatever the "desktop environment" is, much more like Android than any Windows product.  Panel is locked in place?  No Whisker menu (my buddy).  All those settings I just learned to find...  I have to learn to find them again?  I can't even change the panel settings (bottom, top, side)?  This is part of why I wanted to transition away from windows in the first place!  Here's the final kicker:  apparently in Ubuntu, there is no (practical...  did find admin:/// or whatever command for sh) way to access your own root directory.

The package manager GUI was nice, but I was already comfortable installing packages through the shell.  It reminds me of the good old days writing batch programs in DOS, except super-powered.

So, I do have some questions, but I wanted to give some background on myself first.  I have been hearing people talk about *nix for years, had some minimal exposure to it (yes I downloaded pr0n via ftp before there were browsers...  in college), have been wanting to try it for years, and finally just did it.  But my recent experience with Ubuntu was worse than disapointing.  Linux Lite has, in a few days, made a much more lasting impression on me.  It does almost everything my windows system did, I will keep windows, probably mostly for games, but I already prefer LL for everything else.  So...  questions:

1.  LL uses XFCE, Ubuntu uses GNOME...  where can I find a comparison of the differences between these (in terms a novice can understand), and what are they called exactly?  Something like a flowchart, perhaps?

2.  When downloading Ubuntu, I read that it was based on a "build" of Debian.  I have some understanding of these terms...  Debian is a server-oriented OS, and "build" means the code was changed a little.  Right?  Is there another flowchart perhaps of the popular distros, showing the versions they are based on, and the differences?  Couldn't hurt to ask.  Something like a family tree.

3. A lot of the problems I have (i.e. customizing the GUI), when I look up the answers, I originally was looking up LL specific answers, then Ubuntu answers (because they were easy to find).  I got to a point where I was seeing gtk-specific answers, and LL does not have the gtk-specific config files.  I figured they had to make it "Light" somehow, by choosing smaller components, OK.  I guess my question is, what are the different major components of the build (like mate, or cinnamon, etc.), and how should I think of them in somewhat-laymans-terms?

Thanks in advance

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  Linux Lite Forum Adverts
Posted by: Peejay - 02-13-2018, 12:33 AM - Forum: On Topic - Replies (2)

I don't like adverts but do understand how important they are for FOSS operations like Linux Lite so have my ad-blocker turned off for Forum visits, as requested.

I have found the ads to generally be of interest and not distracting but today I was treated to a spurious offer of an Apple device because I was the 1 millionth visitor. It's a while since I've seen this but I have been the 'lucky' visitor on other sites and found it to be just a ruse to capture useful info about you.

I have a screenshot just to help with identification but you probably know the type of thing anyway. Here's the screenshot
https://imgur.com/a/rNb9v

Is there anything that can be done to prevent this type of ad, as it does let the site down. Most of the ads have a little x to remove the ad but I couldn't see this for the 'lucky winner' ad (flashy border perhaps hiding it).

I feel it would be good if there was a way to stop adverts like this spoiling the Forum - but perhaps I'm just a stick-in-the-mud?

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  Installing wine
Posted by: anon - 02-13-2018, 12:21 AM - Forum: Installing Software - Replies (5)

I cannot install wine because when I try to do it from the Linux Lite software application did not work and I also got some thing in terminal it looks like the packages they are broken is anyone else having this issue my apologies for my broken English

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

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  Cannot find apt Update logs and Desktop widget does not record any updates
Posted by: Peejay - 02-13-2018, 12:13 AM - Forum: Other - No Replies

For a while I've noticed that the Desktop Widget on a Core2Duo laptop of mine (now running 64bit 3.8 ) has been showing 'never updated' for the update status even though I've performed several updates, including the upgrade to 3.8 (but the problem precedes that).
I saw that the updates script for the widget looks for update dates in the history.log in /var/log/apt/ so had a look at that.
I found that no log existed for updates after 24 November 2017 and that the last entry for that date showed an Update Start Date but not an Update End Date.
As I read the script this could well cause the 'never updated' message to appear.

So I then did another update to see what happened. It went through the usual prompts without any problem but once it started the package downloads it just disappeared from view altogether - no window, no status icon - but apt processes were clearly active in the Task Manager. When update was completed the LLUpdates.log appeared and seemed to be all in order apart from some problem with the Flash Updater which it had seemed to resolve.

However, history.log remained unchanged.

I'd be grateful for any pointers on how to fix this, which looks to be more of an apt issue rather than anything to do with the widget.

Thank you

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  removing deluge and adding trasnsmission
Posted by: pny - 02-12-2018, 11:41 PM - Forum: Other - Replies (3)

i just deleted a torrent with data and this stupid software didn ' t even ask me if i want to delete the torrent with data with confirmation box , how can i remove this thing and use transmission instead ?

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