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Before Linux Lite
« on: December 11, 2017, 11:56:50 PM »
 

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Hi Jerry,
If you feel like sharing...I'm curious as to what distro(s) was your preferred daily driver prior to creating Linux Lite.

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Re: Before Linux Lite
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2017, 01:06:17 AM »
 

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Re: Before Linux Lite
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2017, 11:24:52 AM »
 

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That's interesting. 
I don't know much about Arch, I've read comments that it's not typically recommended for Linux beginners. 
I know your goal with Linux Lite was to dispel the myths about Linux being difficult. 
Is that why LL is based on Ubuntu? 
Were you ever tempted to create Linux Lite distro based on Arch?
 

Re: Before Linux Lite
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2017, 11:50:55 AM »
 

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Was not interested in building a rolling release distro. Ubuntu base is more suited for beginners than Arch base. Better, easier to follow documentation too.

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Re: Before Linux Lite
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2018, 12:15:09 AM »
 

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Before Linux Lite, I mainly used Ubuntu circa 2011-2013. At that time, it was still the Unity desktop, which is still a favorite of mine in some of its features. After Ubuntu, I went to Arch Linux and built a KDE desktop. That lasted from 2013-2014 and then switched to Linux Lite. Learned many things off of Arch, and probably will not attempt to do that again! Dumped LL for OpenSUSE Leap 42.1, also KDE but wanted to experience an RPM distro for a change after using Ubuntu/Debian based for years, and I absolutely refused to use Fedora. Bought a "new" barely used for less than 1 year ASUS gaming laptop for very cheap at a local pawn shop in March 2017. I didn't install a Linux distro on that for a few months because the touchpad did not function in every distro I tried it with, including LL. I tried Manjaro KDE and stuck with it because the touchpad did work, but barely. Right click button did not function and left click button only worked about 50% of the time. This was fixed later with a Linux kernel update, and hopefully by now has trickled down to LL. I will try it again and see...
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Re: Before Linux Lite
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2018, 03:42:24 AM »
 

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Bought a "new" barely used for less than 1 year ASUS gaming laptop for very cheap at a local pawn shop in March 2017. I didn't install a Linux distro on that for a few months because the touchpad did not function in every distro I tried it with, including LL. I tried Manjaro KDE and stuck with it because the touchpad did work, but barely. Right click button did not function and left click button only worked about 50% of the time. This was fixed later with a Linux kernel update, and hopefully by now has trickled down to LL. I will try it again and see...

I was interested to hear your experiences of a recently bought i7 core Asus gaming laptop. I have the slightly older G750, compared to your more recent G752 model. My experience was that everything worked smoothly with LL or other distros I've tried (PCLOS, Manjaro, et, etc) on this laptop, if I didn't have a UEFI setup.

Did you use UEFI - maybe this is the source of your problems with the G752? The only pain I had was getting UEFI to work satisfactorily - you can see a tutorial & troubleshooting on this that I posted elsewhere on the forum. In the end I found it was just simpler to install without UEFI, using an msdos (MBR) formatted drive.  I get the impression, that with UEFI, some firmware wont work properly so the computer can be compromised. UEFI is not considered very highly on this forum and seems to be just an added complication.
 
When you said you bought your laptop cheaply from a pawnshop, this made me wonder if the previous owner got rid of it because it wasn't working properly, hence the problems you experienced - just a thought ...  These laptops are normally very expensive to buy (1200 or more), not cheap by any means.
Last Edit: February 16, 2018, 08:59:19 AM by m654321
Linux-user since 2014. 64bit OS installed in Legacy mode on MBR (msdos/ext4) formatted SSDs (except the pi which uses a micro SDHC card):
2017 - Raspberry pi 3B (4cores) ~ Arm710@1.2GHz - LibreElec, used for upgrading our Samsung TV (excellent for the task)  
2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ i3-3110M - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom N455@1.66GHz - Slitaz5 rolling (tried LL3 series but lagged)
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel T3200@2.0GHz - LL4.4/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working beautifully)
2007 - Dell Latitude D630 (2cores) ~ Intel T7100@1.8GHz - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL really zippy!) - my daily driver  :-)
 

Re: Before Linux Lite
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2018, 10:30:08 AM »
 

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I was interested to hear your experiences of a recently bought i7 core Asus gaming laptop. I have the slightly older G750, compared to your more recent G752 model. My experience was that everything worked smoothly with LL or other distros I've tried (PCLOS, Manjaro, et, etc) on this laptop, if I didn't have a UEFI setup.

Did you use UEFI - maybe this is the source of your problems with the G752? The only pain I had was getting UEFI to work satisfactorily - you can see a tutorial & troubleshooting on this that I posted elsewhere on the forum. In the end I found it was just simpler to install without UEFI, using an msdos (MBR) formatted drive.  I get the impression, that with UEFI, some firmware wont work properly so the computer can be compromised. UEFI is not considered very highly on this forum and seems to be just an added complication.
 
When you said you bought your laptop cheaply from a pawnshop, this made me wonder if the previous owner got rid of it because it wasn't working properly, hence the problems you experienced - just a thought ...  These laptops are normally very expensive to buy (1200 or more), not cheap by any means.

I bought the laptop for about $780 USD in Mar/2017. My configuration is worth about $2000 USD when new in 2016. Everything was working, touchpad, CD drive, keyboard and the backlighting, came pre-installed with Windows 10. The charger still had the plastic wrapping on it. It still had some data from the previous owner, so I did a factory reset and used Windows 10.

ITried lots of live USBs of Linux, with Secure Boot off and BIOS mode on in the case of Linux Lite (No UEFI support with LL). I looked up the problem and the touchpad issue was because of a driver in Linux. The touchpad is an ELAN touchpad with two physical click buttons. Ubuntu and Linux Lite didn't even recognize it was there, forcing me to use an external mouse. Manjaro KDE was the exception, though the driver still didn't cooperate well. The ELAN driver bundled with the kernel thought that my touchpad was one of those "clickpad" units, where the entire pad presses down to initiate a left click (or right click) where mine has physical buttons for left and right click. Kernel update fixed it and works as it should now. No hardware error from my experience.
Last Edit: February 16, 2018, 10:31:57 AM by Teddy
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Re: Before Linux Lite
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2018, 10:52:37 AM »
 

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Before installing Linux Lite I had only used Windows install.
I am one of a typical Linux Lite target audience.
 

Re: Before Linux Lite
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2018, 09:53:28 PM »
 

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I have been away from Linux for almost 10 years. The last distro I used was Freespire.

In the old days laptops would never last but now I have an 8 year old Acer 10 inch that works fine but not with Windows.
 

Re: Before Linux Lite
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2018, 10:25:44 PM »
 

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My first trial with Linux was at the end of the nineties with Red Hat Linux, I still have the installation CD somewhere, it came as a magazine cover CD. Not too long after that I installed Mandrake Linux and was very impressed, I think it was version 5 or 6, I stuck with that for quite a while. My next one was Suse Linux Professional, I loved that and stuck with it until Novell gave it up and it became OpenSuse.
After that I've pretty much hopped between distro's and not been stuck to one in particular. All of these have been dual boot with Windows which I still do now.
I use what I find most suitable for the task at the time, I use Bodhi Linux on a couple of machines, Antix, Damn Small Linux and various incarnations of Puppy Linux gets used on some old PC's, and now 3 of my systems have Linux Lite on them including my main PC.
I also have a few machines running Amithlon and X-Amiga, both of which use a custom Linux with a Gentoo 2.6 kernel to boot the Amiga system and Workbench so I'll include them as Linux machines.  ;)
 

Re: Before Linux Lite
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2018, 06:20:19 PM »
 

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Before Linux Lite? There was only darkness... ;)

Had an Amiga... was great but company died.
Had a BeOS machine... was great but company died.
Had/have Windows machine(s)... not great but need for work and gaming.

I then tried Ubuntu 9-10-11 a few years back. Played around with it a few weeks, just long enough to get World of Warcraft working on Linux/Wine at the time... a pain in the posterior. Had to recompile my own sound and video drivers and got the thing running fine, but this was more trouble then fun so I went back to the Dark Side a few years.

Came back about two year ago tried about 30 distros other than a plain ubuntu and landed on Linux Lite (insert angels singing or the 2001 monolith song, your choice :D ) . Now I spread this new found hapiness and joy to everyone! ;)
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Re: Before Linux Lite
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2018, 08:32:05 PM »
 

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In the Beginning...

There was nothing.

And God said, "Let there be Light!"

And there was still nothing.

But

You could see it.


 

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[/size]You could see it.

Never heard that one... I LoL'ed ;)
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Re: Before Linux Lite
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2018, 06:49:04 PM »
 

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In the Beginning...

There was nothing.

And God said, "Let there be Light!"

And there was still nothing.

But

You could see it.



If you really want to quote the Holy Book, than do it properly

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1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2And the earth was without form, and void; 
and darkness was upon the face of the deep. 
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
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Re: Before Linux Lite
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My first trial with Linux was at the end of the nineties with Red Hat Linux, I still have the installation CD somewhere, go read about male extra to learn more before buying it came as a magazine cover CD.

I was using Ubuntu before Linux Lite. I think have Ubuntu installed on one machine that I use from time to time.
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