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Hoping someone can guide me here.  I have decided to try and see if I can successfully load an ISO made from a systemback point from one laptop to other old laptops so as to save me time in terms of reloading various additional stuff over and above LL3.8.

I have successfully made my ISO image (although I did not manage to do it via the route Trinidad suggested in a different thread - right clicking on the ISO image and burning to USB so did it via UNetbootin).

I have googled various videos and am unsure exactly which choice I click on when the ISO USB loads.  I tried live system, however it does not give me the icon to "install Linux Lite" like my usual LL3.8 USB does once the live system comes up.

When I go into the next choice "Boot from Installer" I then get a window saying system install and have to put in user name, PW, plus a root password which I left blank (should I?), etc.

It then takes me to Partition settings which I am very unsure what to do here.

I am in the process of googling more videos, but might anyone have a link to which I can refer that makes this all easy for a newbie like me?  Or if not, then some clear instructions?

Thanks in advance  :)
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Re: Installing Linux Lite via a systemback ISO to a different laptop
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2019, 06:47:44 AM »
 

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So I decided to install LL3.8 from the USB I made and always use so as to see the partitions it automatically makes once installed and their names, took a pic and then put in my systemback ISO USB which has all the tweaks on it.

This systemback ISO loads fine and the live OS looks just like the other laptop from which I made this ISO. I then looked again to see if there was an “install Linux Lite” which there wasn’t so followed the video after going into “boot system image”.

This is the video I followed:

As per the video it takes you through the partitioning, etc. Then supposedly loads it and comes up with the screen saying something like “the OS is loaded”. I restarted taking  out the USB and nothing was there!

So I’m unsure what I’m doing wrong...I tried “system install” also by going into the live OS then systemback and choosing system install which takes you through the same steps as going via the menu off the first screen when the ISO loads.

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Re: Installing Linux Lite via a systemback ISO to a different laptop
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2019, 06:26:12 PM »
 

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Hoping someone can guide me here.  I have decided to try and see if I can successfully load an ISO made from a systemback point from one laptop to other old laptops so as to save me time in terms of reloading various additional stuff over and above LL3.8.

I have successfully made my ISO image (although I did not manage to do it via the route Trinidad suggested in a different thread - right clicking on the ISO image and burning to USB so did it via UNetbootin).

I have googled various videos and am unsure exactly which choice I click on when the ISO USB loads.  I tried live system, however it does not give me the icon to "install Linux Lite" like my usual LL3.8 USB does once the live system comes up.

When I go into the next choice "Boot from Installer" I then get a window saying system install and have to put in user name, PW, plus a root password which I left blank (should I?), etc.

It then takes me to Partition settings which I am very unsure what to do here.

I am in the process of googling more videos, but might anyone have a link to which I can refer that makes this all easy for a newbie like me?  Or if not, then some clear instructions?

Thanks in advance  :)

I'm not a 100% sure but I kind of remember reading in a thread that LL doesn't support unetbootin, again not sure, will have to check the forum.

@JanetBiggar  I searched the forum and I was right, see here: https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/installing-linux-lite/frozen/msg511/#msg511
Last Edit: August 16, 2019, 06:30:58 PM by Moltke
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@JanetBiggar I think you may want to try a different approach which in my opinion is much easier to follow, instead of using systemback may I recommend clonezilla? Here are a couple of tutorials, check them out and decide whether to try or not


https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/clone-your-linux-install-clonezilla/

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Re: Installing Linux Lite via a systemback ISO to a different laptop
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2019, 11:30:16 AM »
 

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@JanetBiggar I think you may want to try a different approach which in my opinion is much easier to follow, instead of using systemback may I recommend clonezilla? Here are a couple of tutorials, check them out and decide whether to try or not


https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/clone-your-linux-install-clonezilla/

Hope this helps! :)

Thanks Moltke, I appreciate your suggestions and time.  I took a look at the two tutorials and am a bit confused or maybe overwhelmed! I'm thinking I may try it although not sure I will do it properly as I think perhaps I need to be a little more knowledgeable.

I am still wondering why I was able to use the systemback ISO USB live on the other computer (looked just like the laptop from which I copied it) as I know it works as a bootable ISO, yet wasn't able to install it.  Yes, I realize the info that you sent me said Unetbookin doesn't work well on Linux, however why does the live OS work if that is the case?

I'd really like to succeed with this system image ISO USB so as to save lots of time installing LL 3.8 on these other laptops...I guess we'll see how I manage.

Should you have any further suggestions or guidance feel free to send them my way!  ;D
 

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Well I gave it a try starting with trying to get Clonezilla on my USB, but failed at that.  I think it is too complex or I'm doing something incorrect.

I think I will google to see if there are other alternatives.. :(
 

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@JanetBiggar Here's an idea. It's been a while since I last used systemback so today I played a little bit with it and I think the reson you can't install your custom live system made from your install is the fact that your making an .ISO from an installed system, which doesn't have that option, i.e the "install icon on the desktop", so I think a better approach is to create a new LL Live USB, boot into it, update & upgrade and make all the customizations you need, install all the programs you've installed in another laptop and install them in the new build as well as all the personal configurations you've made, you could use aptik for that which is a GUI application that lets you backup your favourite PPAs and Packages as well as your home dir, once you've finished, run systemback and create an .ISO image from the Live system. I think this is a  better approach for your purposes, yes, you will have to do all that work but only once since you'll have that image you can use later as many times as you wish.


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Re: Installing Linux Lite via a systemback ISO to a different laptop
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2019, 10:44:07 PM »
 

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THanks Moltke this sounds promising!

One thing I’m not sure about is the aptik- am I correctly understanding that once I am using the LL live I update the live OS with everything I want then use aptik to make a backup THEN use systemback to convert that aptik backup to an ISO?

 

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I have used this : https://serverfault.com/questions/86808/break-up-a-dd-image-into-multiple-files
The one that uses split works well.

Requirements:
Some linux distribution live media
Portable HDD that has enough storage to hold the compressed clone image
a lot of time

0. As always make backups if something goes wrong.
1. boot from live media
2. make partitions smaller than the destination disk if you they are bigger
3. run commands but dont use the OS you are cloning!
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dd if=/dev/zero of=<source OS disk (NOT /dev/...!!!!!) it is /media/linuxlite/...> ; rm <source OS disk /media/...>
dd if=/dev/<input_sdx> bs=4M | gzip -c | split -b <splitted file size in gigabytes>G - <existing output dir for files on portable disk>
Example : dd if=/dev/sdx bs=4M  | gzip -c | split -b 8G - /media/linuxlite/portable hdd/clone.img.gz.
note that you must have a lot of disk space for that on the portable HDD.

then restore with an example:
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cat <img files path>clone.img.gz.* | gzip -dc | dd of=/dev/sdy bs=4M
Sounds complex? it is.


 

Re: Installing Linux Lite via a systemback ISO to a different laptop
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2019, 06:25:14 AM »
 

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Sounds complex? it is.

Thanks for your thoughts minesheep!

So here’s what I’ve decided to try based on Moltke’s idea and minesheep’s comments:

1) I decided to do a trial by putting my original LL3.8 bootable USB into this new install and updating the live USB and adding Unetbootin so as to be able to make a bootable ISO.
2) by the way when I booted up this machine (the new install) on which I want to do the install I can see two I mounted files that came from my original systemback ISO USB on which I was attempting to copy my other completed install. So I’m cautiously optimistic that maybe the systemback ISO is working and that I’m just not doing the partitioning properly.
3) so, given #2, my experiment is to tweak the live USB a bit simply so that I know it IS different that my original LL3.8 USB (do the updates and add Unetbootin). 
4) Make a systemback ISO using Unetbootin while running this live USB and put it on a new USB.
5) boot the NEW USB on this same new install and see if it gives me the “install LL” choice once booted up...

I have started the process and will report back...


 

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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2019, 12:25:29 PM »
 

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Well, I have elected to bail on this task.  I tried coping the partitioning that occurs when LL3.8 is loaded via my usual LL bootable USB for the regular installation, but still no go.

I felt the other methods were too complex to try and so will continue to do each laptop separately.

Thanks again for the ideas that were sent and should anyone in future find a way, somewhat easily for a newbie  ;), to copy one system to a new install please let me know  ;D
 

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THanks Moltke this sounds promising!

One thing I’m not sure about is the aptik- am I correctly understanding that once I am using the LL live I update the live OS with everything I want then use aptik to make a backup THEN use systemback to convert that aptik backup to an ISO?

No, aptik will create a couple of files with the system info you've decided to save, save those files somewhere else, i.e a usb stick, create your live .iso with systemback, burn it to a usb and when installing in another laptop plug the usb stick where aptik's files are in and use them to install and make all the customizations and personal configurations you need to. Watch here
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Re: Installing Linux Lite via a systemback ISO to a different laptop
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2019, 08:52:35 AM »
 

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Thanks Moltke, I have a few things now to try over the next few days and will post an update when I do.
 

Re: Installing Linux Lite via a systemback ISO to a different laptop
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2019, 03:05:53 PM »
 

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Ok, so here is the update:

I did try to do what Moltke suggested where I ran the live USB and updated it and so on.  Well after I updated it I did get a message saying something like " there is one broken package..." so I didn't go any further that day.  Before I got the chance to try again I received a private message from Oobuntus who provided me with the following instructions which worked like a CHARM  ;D. This has saved me soooo much time as I have been able to set up this new batch of laptops for my students in South Africa much more quickly that in the past.  What a life saver!

I actually made it prior to Oobuntus providing me with the tweaks that would cleanup the slide show and change the icon as that doesn't bother me:

Hi Janet,

So you have your ISO. That's good. But there is not just one thing wrong with it. The Installer icon text as I mentioned earlier is one. The other flaw is that the Linux Lite installation slideshow gets over-written by the Ubuntu slideshow. These are just cosmetic flaws. But they are personally irritating. So I have spent the last couple of days eliminating them. I'm sorry I didn't get it fixed before you tried it.

To make things some better you will have to repeat the process:
1. Re-install Linux Lite, (the username does not have to be linuxlite as indicated earlier)
2. update it,
3. re-install dconf-editor,
4. re-apply your customizations,
5. download and install the updated remastersys304forLL38.deb file,
6. and run doit or replicate.

I have found that you do not need Etcher. You can use Menu/Settings/Disks to burn the ISO:
1. Insert your flash drive and then click Menu/Settings/Disks,
2. Select the flash drive in the left pane,
3. Click the hamburger icon at top right and select Restore Disk Image...,
4. In the Image to Restore field, browse to /home/remastersys/remastersys/ and select the ISO,
5. Then click Start Restoring...
It's only a trifle more bother than Etcher.

It's OK if you want to post the steps and mark your post as solved, but maybe you should use these updated instructions:
 


To create an installable ISO of a customized Linux Lite 3.8 32bit system:
     • Install Linux Lite 32bit v3.8 on an uncommited hard drive. This will be your replica development drive.
     • Install Updates
     • Also install dconf-editor via Synaptic
     • Clear the apt-cache with sudo apt-get clean, (optional, but makes for a smaller ISO)
     • Uninstall unwanted programs
     • Install elective programs
     • Set Firefox preferences
     • Add Firefox bookmarks that you want to be present in the replicated systems
     • Clear Firefox history and cache
     • Download and install Remastersys from here: http:///www3.telus.net/someubuntufreebies/remastersys304forLL38.deb
        (It required a couple of modifications to work with Linux Lite 3.8, so you should only use this modified version)
     • Install the downloaded deb package using gdebi. (just double-click the deb file)

You're now ready to create a replicant ISO.
Step 1. Open a terminal.
Step 2. Type the command 'dconf-editor'. Make sure that the org/blueman/transfer shared path is Set to Default. Then close dconf-editor.
Step 3. Type the command '2skel' and press ENTER, followed by your password.
Step 4. Type the command 'sudo remastersys clean' and press ENTER.
Step 5. Type the command 'sudo remastersys dist' and press ENTER.
Step 6. Burn the ISO that was created in /home/remastersys/remastersys to a USB stick/flash drive using either Menu/Settings/Disks or Etcher.

Since this will not be a frequent undertaking, you can execute these steps individually.
Alternatively, you can enter the command 'replicate' in a terminal and it will perform all steps, 2 through 5, and save you a bit of typing.

And if you want to add a launcher to the Menu, just:

1. Right-click the Menu and select Edit Applications
2. Left-click System
3. Left-click New Item (a Launcher Properties dialog will open)
4. In the Name: field enter: Replicate
5. In the Command: field enter: x-terminal-emulator -e /usr/bin/replicator
6. In the Comment: field enter: Create an installable ISO of this system as currently configured.
7. Leave Launch in Terminal unchecked.
8. Click OK and Close.

Now there will be a 'Replicate' launcher at the bottom of Menu/System.

Depending on what additional software you add to the development machine, and whether you want it to be preconfigured in the replica,
you may have to add additional rsync .config lines to the 2skel file. Use gksudo leafpad /usr/bin/2skel. But if you are uncomfortable doing this,
it might be better to leave them un-preconfigured.
 

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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2019, 07:24:01 PM »
 

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For anyone else who might pursue this, be advised that it is not necessary to clear the apt-cache. Doing so will not produce a smaller ISO.
(1) LL4.6 on System76 Gazelle Pro L4P9 (2012) i7-3630QM 2.4 GHz - 8GB - Intel HD 4000 1920x1080
(2) LL4.6 on Acer Aspire 5515 (2009) AMD Athlon 2650e 1.6 GHz - 3GB - ATI Radeon Xpress 1200 1280x800
(3) LL4.6 on HP Compaq 8000 SFF (2009) Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz - 4GB - Intel 4 Integrated Graphics 1920x1080
(4) Xubuntu 18.04 on 32bit Acer Aspire 5672 (2006) Core Duo T2300 1.66 GHz - 2GB - ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 1280x800
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