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Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« on: February 15, 2020, 04:51:13 PM »
 

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Hello,

I started out with Linux Mint and my screen began shaking.  Someone suggested I use a lighter distro.  So, I uninstalled Mint and tried Puppy.  Couldn't see any videos with their web browser (Pale Moon).  I then installed Linux Lite on USB to try out.  I'm now getting that shaking screen again.  Any ideas?  I'm new to all of this and just want to keep using my machine after Windows 7 support went away - I need step-by-step information/instruction and often don't understand the snippets of information given about Linux problems that seem to be for pros, so step-by-step is best for people like me.  I did not do updates as there's not enough space on the USB, but I have a feeling it's something to do with my NVIDIA graphics.  Thanks & here's my system info:

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Re: Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2020, 06:36:25 AM »
 

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Re: Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2020, 03:27:12 PM »
 

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Re: Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2020, 06:19:15 PM »
 

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Re: Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2020, 11:12:41 PM »
 

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There is nothing listed in my Additional Drivers - I'm still running from a USB stick as that is what seems to be recommended to determine whether something is a good fit & worthy to do the actual install.  So, I haven't done updates since there's not the space available on the stick. 

With the shaky screen and moments of complete freezing up, I'm not sure whether it's because I'm running on USB and am nervous to do an install as I installed Mint and spent quite a bit of time doing the uninstall after the same problem with shaky screen/freeze ups.  Someone on Mint board suggested trying out this lighter version or anything with xfce.

However, if there is something I can install while still running off USB to help with the problems, I'm happy to do that & report back.  Although, as a newbie I need pretty base line instructions on the installs. 

Really appreciate all the help....
 

Re: Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2020, 11:42:20 PM »
 

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Start again. This time create a Persistent USB - see Help Manual. Then after that, try the Legacy Driver ONLY from Install Drivers.

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Re: Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2020, 07:14:20 AM »
 

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Hi and W3Lc0m3! ;)

I had some screen shaking just last week, well, more like "pixel shaking" on the whole screen.
In my setup, it was because the refresh rate of the monitor was at 30Hz, since the monitor supported it.
Putting it at 60Hz solved the issue.

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Re: Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2020, 12:33:14 PM »
 

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I had a very similar problem. I also have the 6150SE n430 graphics that came with my computer. This card is a special case, where the Nvidia drivers do work better than the open source Nouveau.

However, you cannot install the Nvidia driver on Lite 4.0 series. This is becasue 4.0 is based on Ubuntu 18, and Ubuntu 16 is the last version that supports those graphics. but Lite 3.0 series will let you install it.

The driver is Nvidia 304.135. If you install Lite 3.0, after the first round of updates you will see it when you run the Install Drivers program. You can then select it and your system will then be on Nvidia drivers.

since doing this, Lite 3.8 has worked flawlessly for me, not one graphics-related issue. (I updated to 3.8 and it still is fine).

Lite 3.x series uses Linux kernel 4.4, which is the last one that will let you install that Nvidia driver. Once you go to the Ubuntu 18-based systems, the kernel changes to a newer one that does not support that driver.

See my thread here for more details. It's the one right below yours in Video Card section. I got some of my info from the Ubuntu forum, which confirmed that 6150SE n430 is indeed a special case. most other cards from that era do fine with Nouveau, but not that one.

The good news is that Lite 3.8 is supported until April 2021, so you can use it with confidence.
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Re: Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2020, 12:53:30 PM »
 

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Have you try to change drivers ?
 

Re: Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2020, 08:27:36 PM »
 

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I am going to try some of these suggestions.  I really, really appreciate these.  Thank you for taking the time.
 

Re: Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2020, 09:26:51 AM »
 

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I finally tackled this and installed 3.8, found that driver mentioned and have been running dual boot since!  Other than some slowing issues, I have had a pretty smooth go of it.  No shaking yet.  Thank you, really appreciate it!
 

Re: Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2020, 10:19:52 AM »
 

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I tried to install the nvidia driver, which I downloaded from the NVIDIA site. I change the permissions before excecuting the package.
NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.137.run in the command line told me to see the nvidia-installer.log, which I put below.
 
cat /var/log/nvidia-installer.log
nvidia-installer log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log'
creation time: Mon Aug 24 11:13:56 2020
installer version: 304.137

PATH: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/snap/bin

nvidia-installer command line:
    ./nvidia-installer

Using: nvidia-installer ncurses v6 user interface
-> The file '/tmp/.X0-lock' exists and appears to contain the process ID '1153' of a runnning X server.
ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com.
ERROR: Installation has failed.  Please see the file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details.  You may find suggestions on fixing installation problems in the README available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com.

Following this link: https://askubuntu.com/questions/149206/how-to-install-nvidia-run I try to bypass the X.org issue.
So, I went to the tmp folder and remove the .X0-lock file and executed the script again, but the following message appeared.
he Nouveau kernel driver is currently in use by your system.  This driver is incompatible with the NVIDIA driver, and must be disabled before proceeding.  Please consult the NVIDIA driver README and your Linux distribution's documentation for details on how to correctly disable the Nouveau kernel driver.

Does anyone can help me to solve the problem?

Regards,
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Re: Screen Shaking with NVIDIA Graphics
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2020, 06:02:37 PM »
 

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My experience has been that Nvidia 304.x will not work on Ubuntu 18-based systems, such as LL 4.x. that's because of the kernel being upgraded. AFAIK, kernel 4.4 is the last that supports that driver.

now the OP suggest that he did succeed in doing this. I have heard from the Ubuntu forum that it may be possible. I would love it as I could then also update from LL 3.8. however at least on my system I am doubtful.

LL 3.8 will work with 304, and is supported until April 2021. Another system that will work, and is still supported, is Ubuntu 16.04. You can also get extended security support for that, good till 2024. and kernel 4.4 is supported at least to 2024 as well.
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