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Title: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: ensiform on October 11, 2016, 06:54:59 PM
Hi, I have recently installed LL 3.0 on my family's Dell Precision M70 laptop (Intel Pentium M 740) which contains a Quadro FX Go 1440 nvidia card and with the install of latest legacy binary drivers (304...) through install drivers menu I have the option to use the preferred 1440x900 resolution instead of the 1920x1200 which just looks way too small on the screen.  However my issue is that it does not actually set it to 1440x900 where the screen fits the resolution.  Rather it seems the OS is still fully at 1920x1200 but shows only 1440x900 portion of it with the mouse scrolling the rest of the screen as it reaches the edge.  How do I solve this so that the resolution is *actually* 1440x900 without scrolling the screen?
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: torreydale on October 11, 2016, 08:21:56 PM
Try this:

Menu > Favorites > Help Manual.  And then click on the Video Drivers section.  Pay special attention to the portions related to NVIDIA drivers.
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: ensiform on October 12, 2016, 12:54:27 PM
Try this:

Menu > Favorites > Help Manual.  And then click on the Video Drivers section.  Pay special attention to the portions related to NVIDIA drivers.

Thanks for directing me to the manual but I've already checked it over several times; plus I'm not that dumb to not know how to use a resolution selector GUI ???.  It seems that the manual only shows rudimentary basic steps for setting the resolution through nvidia's settings which don't work as intended as I initially stated.

1920x1200: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gzuospgxrs2plto/Screenshot_2016-10-12_11-18-29.png?dl=0

1440x900: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2ko85nu32q0wg8/Screenshot_2016-10-12_11-19-07.png?dl=0

The main reason I wish to have the other resolution properly is so that my older family doesn't need to squint to read email and webpages.  I've tried setting fonts bigger etc  but it doesn't work as uniformly as a lower resolution often does same with Windows.
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: torreydale on October 12, 2016, 02:40:25 PM
If you installed the "proprietary, tested" NVIDIA driver using Install Drivers, and setting your resolution using the NVIDIA X Server Settings isn't working, have you tried setting your resolution using Menu > Settings > Display?
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: ensiform on October 12, 2016, 07:00:38 PM
I had tried it prior to using the NVIDIA driver but 1440x900 wasn't even listed at that time and had a pain of a time getting it manually added.  Back then there were other options now it only seems to list 1920x1200 for some reason.
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: Jerry on October 13, 2016, 08:08:06 AM
Can you post the contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file please.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: ensiform on October 13, 2016, 11:41:33 AM
Hi Jerry, I did a fresh wipe of the nvidia drivers to the noveau ones and removed the xorg conf that was there.  Then proceed to go back to Legacy Binary (Proprietary, Tested) version of 304 but there is no xorg.conf after going back to it.  I can past the backups for you though:

Here's backup created automatically yesterday at some point:
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# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 361.42  (buildd@lcy01-16)  Tue Apr  5 14:32:56 UTC 2016
 
Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection
 
Section "Files"
EndSection
 
Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "type1"
    Load           "freetype"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection
 
Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
 
Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection
 
Section "Monitor"
    # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "Seiko/Epson"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 75.0
    VertRefresh     60.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection
 
Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "Quadro FX Go1400"
EndSection
 
Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "Stereo" "0"
    Option         "metamodes" "nvidia-auto-select +0+0; nvidia-auto-select +0+0 {viewportin=1440x900}; nvidia-auto-select +0+0 {viewportin=1280x1024, viewportout=1500x1200+210+0}; nvidia-auto-select +0+0 {viewportin=1280x720, viewportout=1920x1080+0+60}; nvidia-auto-select +0+0 {viewportin=1024x768, viewportout=1600x1200+160+0}; nvidia-auto-select +0+0 {viewportin=800x600, viewportout=1600x1200+160+0}"
    Option         "SLI" "Off"
    Option         "MultiGPU" "Off"
    Option         "BaseMosaic" "off"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

And here's the one I made right before rolling back to noveau but removed the metamode lines:
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# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 361.42  (buildd@lcy01-16)  Tue Apr  5 14:32:56 UTC 2016
 
 
Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection
 
Section "Files"
EndSection
 
Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "type1"
    Load           "freetype"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection
 
Section "InputDevice"
 
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
 
Section "InputDevice"
 
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection
 
Section "Monitor"
 
    # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "Seiko/Epson"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 75.0
    VertRefresh     60.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection
 
Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "Quadro FX Go1400"
EndSection
 
Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "Stereo" "0"
    Option         "SLI" "Off"
    Option         "MultiGPU" "Off"
    Option         "BaseMosaic" "off"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: Jerry on October 14, 2016, 10:44:14 PM
Open a terminal, do:

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gksudo nvidia-settings
What resolution options are available?
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: ensiform on October 15, 2016, 06:54:37 PM
(http://imgur.com/CNDy1Zol.png) (http://i.imgur.com/CNDy1Zo.png)
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: Jerry on October 15, 2016, 10:03:39 PM
What type of cable are you using?
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: ensiform on October 16, 2016, 12:06:09 AM
It isn't a cable, it is the laptop screen itself.
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: Jerry on October 16, 2016, 01:29:34 AM
Can you get 1440x900 without the proprietary driver? Do you need the driver for a reason? Or is the nouveau driver adequate for your needs?
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: ensiform on October 16, 2016, 06:22:55 PM
This was answered before:

I had tried it prior to using the NVIDIA driver but 1440x900 wasn't even listed at that time and had a pain of a time getting it manually added.  Back then there were other options now it only seems to list 1920x1200 for some reason.

And considering using the real nvidia driver is preferred, why wouldn't I want to use it?  Plus this resolution was available on Windows with NVIDIA so I'm a little puzzled why I can't get this to work still.
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: Jerry on October 17, 2016, 12:59:53 AM
Quote from: ensiform

And considering using the real nvidia driver is preferred, why wouldn't I want to use it?

Preferred doesn't always translate to best in linux. Sometimes, the open source drivers outperform the proprietary ones, which is why I would still like to know why you need the proprietary driver. This is a graphics chip from 2005, what modern games, rendering etc do you intend to run on a 11 year old gpu?

Quote from: ensiform

Plus this resolution was available on Windows with NVIDIA so I'm a little puzzled why I can't get this to work still.

Because you cannot compare the way Windows and Linux drivers are written and maintained.
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: ensiform on October 19, 2016, 10:15:53 AM
It's a family PC for firefox and thunderbird so no games really.  But considering the resolution I want doesn't show up at all with Nouveau in the Display menu when not using NVIDIA drivers it doesn't help me to use that either.  Would also be nice to allow html5 and flash player video to work as best as they can and a native driver would probably be the best for those, no?

IMO you can compare them because the outcome being the same is what is expected and warranted.
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: Jerry on October 20, 2016, 12:07:52 AM
HTML5 and Flash won't work any differently with or without a video driver on linux. In linux, a good cpu & gpu, 2Gb+ ram, usually dictates video performance results. Your overall system spec is low, so I wouldn't expect outstanding results. There are ofc ways around this, Minitube for example may be better for Youtube content watching.

Getting custom resolutions on legacy gpu's is not simple in some cases.
I think your best bet would be to work through this article - https://samuelmartin.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/enabling-resolutions-in-ubuntu-12-04-lubuntu-12-04/ (https://samuelmartin.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/enabling-resolutions-in-ubuntu-12-04-lubuntu-12-04/)
Title: Re: Quadro FX Go 1440 lower resolutions (1920x1200 native, 1440x900 preferred)
Post by: torreydale on October 20, 2016, 09:04:25 AM
Jerry is correct.  Looking at the age and specs of that computer, advancing to LL 3.0 might have been an ambitious move.  If LL 2.x doesn't perform better for you, it might behoove you to go to an LXDE based distro like LXLE or PeppermintOS.  Even with those, I would encourage you to choose one that is based on Ubuntu 14.04, not 16.04.  You'll still be supported until April 2019. 

If it were me, that's what I would do.  I'd try LL 2.6, and if that didn't suffice, I'd choose LXLE 14.04.3.  I'd also upgrade to 2GB of RAM, which I believe is the maximum for that computer.  You should be able to get that on eBay for $15 or less including shipping.