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mdiemer:
Hi, been away for awhile, now have need for some help again.

My 8400GS card went bad recently. As a result, I am using for now the original onboard graphics for this 10 yr old Gateway GT5656 desktop. The "card" is GeForce 6150SE nForce 430. I have been experimenting with 32 bit linux systems, trying to find one that will work with this old system.

 Originally, the computer was Vista 32 bit. It is 64bit capable, and I did have it 64 bit until the add-in card died. My logic is that since the computer was kind of designed for 32 bit, if I use the onboard graphics, 32 bit may work better.

On two other Linux systems (Zorin Lite and LXLE), I occasionally have display freezes, necessitating a reboot. I tried to install the NVIDIA drivers 304.xxx, but could not, on those systems. I figure they are too "new." So I installed Linux Lite 3.0, thinking an older system might allow me to install the drivers. It did, I have the 304 driver working now on Lite 3.0.

So, if I try Lite 4.0, would I run the risk of the Nvidia drivers not working, because the system/kernel is too new? (Why not just get a new add-in card? I'm trying to avoid putting money into this old beast, if possible). Also, what is your opinion re: Nouveau vs. Nvidia drivers, in a situation like this? Which are likely to work better?

Thanks,

Mike

TheDead:
I had the same problems with the same onboard card.

I even tried to install an older nVidia driver in manual mode.
Which is a pain since you have to "close" the DE (XFCE) and do it in command line mode.
But, unfortunately, the driver can't install even like this, though, it offers to install itself anyways... but that does not work, of course.

I finally installed a Windows 10 32 bits (yes, it still exists) but had to "force" an old driver to install.
I was glad just to get the thing working and play youtube... I don't know about acceleration or 3D.
(Note : I did use 32 bits because the CPU itself was only 32bits... yeah, that old ;) , a Core Duo (not 2) T2500, Wowza!

DeepThought:
@mdiemer  If your intention is to stick with 32 bit then you can use lite-upgrade to upgrade to Linux Lite 3.8, but the Linux Lite 4.x series is 64 bit only.

trinidad:
Are you sure the machine was Vista 32bit originally? Just because the OEM graphics card control interface was 32bit does not mean the OS was 32bit. I'm sure you could get the video driver and card interface to work on Debian 9 64bit as I know others who have, which means: there must be an Ubuntu resource somewhere that explains how to do it on Ubuntu.

Perhaps this one: Hint: use the manual method.

https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux

And/or the Debian method may help you understand the process better.

https://www.linuxbabe.com/debian/install-nvidia-driver-debian-9-stretch

If your hardware is the one showing in your profile it would be a shame to install a 32bit OS.

TC

     

mdiemer:

--- Quote from: TheDead on January 29, 2020, 09:17:58 AM ---I had the same problems with the same onboard card.

I even tried to install an older nVidia driver in manual mode.
Which is a pain since you have to "close" the DE (XFCE) and do it in command line mode.
But, unfortunately, the driver can't install even like this, though, it offers to install itself anyways... but that does not work, of course.

I finally installed a Windows 10 32 bits (yes, it still exists) but had to "force" an old driver to install.
I was glad just to get the thing working and play youtube... I don't know about acceleration or 3D.
(Note : I did use 32 bits because the CPU itself was only 32bits... yeah, that old ;) , a Core Duo (not 2) T2500, Wowza!

--- End quote ---

Hi, thanks for the reply. I have Windows 7 on one of the drives, and it found the 304 driver by itself and it works fine. But this drive is just an archive at this point.

I did succeed in installing the 304 driver in Lite 3.0 32 bits and got it working in Driver Manager. Yesterday I updated, a massive one, but still left me with 3.0, same kernel I think. but then I got a display freeze. Also, typing on Vivaldi browser was very iffy. This did not happen before the update. That's what I was afraid of. With these old graphics, they may be fine with initial install, but then have problems after updates. I have turned off everything I can think of in Vivaldi settings, and that seems to have helped. We'll see how it goes from here.

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