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At present, I'm working on one or two other updates to the tutorial, i.e:
 
1. How to edit the grub screen to change the listed OS name from *Ubuntu to Linux Lite
2. What to do if your grub screen disappears at startup and boots straight into win8.1. - this happened to me following temporary removal of the UEFI dual-boot HDD from the laptop, working with another HDD for a short time, and then subsequently putting back the original UEFI dual-boot HDD into the laptop. Perplexing to say the least...

The above two points are now covered in the tutorial, in additional sections E & F.

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Last Edit: August 17, 2016, 04:51:43 AM by m654321
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UPDATE 6:
Just to say I've edited Section A of the tutorial (18.10.15) to include the following two points...

1. The tutorial worked very well for a LL2.6/Win10 UEFI dual-boot set-up

2. With LL2.6/Win10, I appeared to have no problem setting up a separate /home partition for LL.  I quite like to have a separate home partition so that configuration files are preserved during upgrading - that way I don't lose my Firefox bookmarks and other settings.  If you install LL as root only, then you will lose these and other settings.

3. I haven't found a /swap partition necessary in my previous set-ups, when swappiness has been reduced from the default of 60 to a value of 10, as it never seems to get used.  So now that the system runs very snappily anyway, with a solid-state drive, I have omitted a swap partition from the set-up. 

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Last Edit: August 17, 2016, 04:52:50 AM by m654321
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Hi Mike,

Does this topic of yours infer that LL2.6 64-bit is not UEFI enabled for either Live or Installed use and that another UEFI enabled distribution needs to be used to enable LL2.6 64-bit to be used in UEFI mode?

I have my Laptop configured for Dual Booting with Windows 8.1 Pro and I've tested several different Linux distributions on it with a Live USB with the following configuration.

In the Startup section for UEFI I have Secure Boot disabled along with the following.

Code: [Select]
UEFI/Legacy Boot       [UEFI Only]
   - CSM Support       [No]

The other options for UEFI/Legacy Boot are Both and Legacy Only.

Installed distributions I have used include Linux Mint 16, Manjaro Xfce 0.8.10, Manjaro Xfce+Ob 0.9.0 OpenRC and Calculate Linux 15 for which the respective Live USBs worked with the above UEFI configuration.

Here's the output for fdisk -l.
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Disk /dev/sda: 465.8 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 5FEEA573-43E2-4CD6-A7F4-AC5E2FFD7A30

Device         Start       End   Sectors  Size Type
/dev/sda1       2048    616447    614400  300M Windows recovery environment
/dev/sda2     616448    819199    202752   99M EFI System
/dev/sda3     819200   1081343    262144  128M Microsoft reserved
/dev/sda4    1081344 210796543 209715200  100G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sda5  210796544 252739583  41943040   20G Linux filesystem
/dev/sda6  252739584 273711103  20971520   10G Linux swap
/dev/sda7  273711104 315654143  41943040   20G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sda8  315654144 766541823 450887680  215G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sda9  766541824 850427903  83886080   40G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sda10 850427904 976766975 126339072 60.2G Microsoft basic data

/dev/sda7 is actually the Manjaro Xfce 0.8.10 install that is borked somewhat.

/dev/sda4 is the Windows 8.1 installation.

Thanks, MTB.
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Does this topic of yours infer that LL2.6 64-bit is not UEFI enabled for either Live or Installed use and that another UEFI enabled distribution needs to be used to enable LL2.6 64-bit to be used in UEFI mode?

Hi Cusco,

The tutorial works very well for  UEFI enabled dual-boot set-ups for any LL version (i.e. from 2.0 onwards) combined with Windows (either versions 8.1 or 10).  It may well work with Win7 or Win8 too, and also for  LL versions earlier than 2.0, but have not needed to try these so don't really know. Yes,  Ubuntu (which has an official UEFI license from Microsoft, Linux Lite doesn't) is used in the live environment to install UEFI in Linux Lite.  If you print out the tutorial and follow it word-for-word, installation should be straightforward. Without Ubuntu, you won't be able to install LL in UEFI mode - see step D of the tutorial.

I'm a bit confused by the rest of your post as it's a bit off topic.  The aim of the present tutorial was to provide more detailed instructions, to accompany  Nehal J Wani's original YouTube video, which showed how to set-up a LL 2.0 / Windows 8.1 UEFI enabled dual-boot.  If you want to discuss setting up other distros, using either UEFI or Legacy, may I suggest you begin a new discussion thread on this.  It would probably be more productive for you discussing this elsewhere on the LL forum...

Nehal J Wani has also posted several YouTube videos showing how to set up several different kinds of Linux distro in dual boot with Windows OS, with UEFI enabled.  Might be worth having a look at these if you are interested further...

Many thanks for your interest in this tutorial
Cheers
Mike
Last Edit: November 21, 2015, 09:49:21 AM by m654321
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I'm a bit confused by the rest of your post as it's a bit off topic.  The aim of the present tutorial was to provide more detailed instructions, to accompany  Nehal J Wani's original YouTube video, which showed how to set-up a LL 2.0 / Windows 8.1 UEFI enabled dual-boot.  If you want to discuss setting up other distros, using either UEFI or Legacy, may I suggest you begin a new discussion thread on this.  It would probably be more productive for you discussing this elewhere on the LL forum...

Hi Mike,

For the other distributions, I have used, including Linux Mint which is also based on Ubuntu, I have never needed to follow a procedure such as detailed in your tutorial.

My Laptop (Lenovo B590) was bought with only FreeDOS installed. As per instructions on the Internet, I installed Windows 8.1 Pro with the UEFI configured as I noted in my previous post. Hence, when installing Linux Mint 16 64-bit, GRUB was installed in UEFI mode. Linux Mint 16 64-bit was the first Linux OS I installed on this Laptop. I used Rufus in Windows 8.1 to make a UEFI bootable Live USB for Linux Mint 16 64-bit. I followed the Tutorial created by gold_finger at the following page.

[TUTORIAL] Installing Mint on a Windows 8/8.1 Computer

Therefore, I was wondering if it was necessary to be following your procedure for the 64-bit edition of Linux Lite 2.6?

Maybe, I would only need to use sudo update-grub from Calculate Linux or a Linux Live USB that boots in UEFI mode?

Thanks, MTB.
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I have understood that Linux Mint, like Ubuntu and some other distros (you can Google this to find which ones), have actually obtained a License from Microsoft to permit UEFI support for their installations.  As far as I know Linux Lite do not have such a license, which is why Ubuntu is needed in the live environment to enable UEFI within the installed LL.  I do not know if Jerry plans to get a UEFI support licence from Microsoft for  LL at sometime in the future, but I get the firm impression that it is not a priority.

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Hello!

Does this topic of yours infer that LL2.6 64-bit is not UEFI enabled for either Live or Installed use and that another UEFI enabled distribution needs to be used to enable LL2.6 64-bit to be used in UEFI mode?

In a nutshell, that about sums it up. You're 'slipstreaming' GRUB-EFI into LL.

I ran this on the new lappy, and when I tried to install GRUB, I guess it couldn't find my EFI partition, and proceeded to puke. I ran the UEFI version of Boot Repair, and it finished the process.

There's nothing wrong with anything presented here. For some strange, unknown reason, it just happened to puke on me. It makes me think if we could, pending a UEFI GRUB loader for LL, add a script to a Boot Repair CD, and automate the whole process...

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Hi Rob,

Yes, I guess 'slipstreaming' is a good very visual way of describing the installation of  Grub-EFI. I'll leave it up to the experts here to come up with the code for automating the whole process - that area is a bit beyond me.

I'm trying to imagine though what a puking laptop looks like... sounds pretty messy  :-[

Cheers,
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2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ i3-3110M - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom N455@1.66GHz - Manjaro (tried LL3 series but lagged)
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel T3200@2.0GHz - LL4.4/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working beautifully)
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UPDATE 7:
I have just made an amendment to Section F of the tutorial, that is...

Problem 2 - reversion of the grub-entry name to Ubuntu
As stated in the amendment, you can either leave it as it is (doesn't affect functioning of Linux Lite), or
just go through Section E again for re-editing the grub-screen entry from Ubuntu back to whatever you want to call it (e.g. Linux Lite)

I'd just like to wish a Happy Christmas and a Very Peaceful New Year to EVERYONE here on the Linux Lite forum! THanks for all your help and support - you're a great bunch - truly!

I would also like to wish Linux Lite a very successful 2016!
Let's raise our glasses to that...
Cheers!
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Last Edit: August 17, 2016, 04:54:03 AM by m654321
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2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ i3-3110M - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom N455@1.66GHz - Manjaro (tried LL3 series but lagged)
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel T3200@2.0GHz - LL4.4/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working beautifully)
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UPDATE 8:
I have further updated the tutorial with two more issues that I experienced with the win/LL UEFI-enabled dual boot set up.
See Problems 3 & 4 appended to Section F.

All the best
Mike
Last Edit: August 17, 2016, 04:54:53 AM by m654321
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UPDATE 9:
Just to say the  upgrading from LL2.6 to 2.8 within the LL/Win8.1 UEFI dual-boot, proceeded flawlessly (12 February 2016) and took less than 10 minutes to complete. 

UEFI continues to work very well. The only glitch that pops up now-and-then is 'problem 3' in 'section F' of the tutorial (hanging on start-up or shutdown), though this continues to be easily rectified by the procedure I outlined.
 
 
Many thanks Jerry, and the rest of the team for all your hard work.


Cheers
Mike
 
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Congratulations Mike the excellent tutorial of an installation with UEFI system, simple and easy to understand.

Regarding the LinuxMint, this has support UEFI.

And I also agree that in the next versions of Linux Lite should have support for both Secury Boot and UEFI.
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Congratulations Mike the excellent tutorial of an installation with UEFI system, simple and easy to understand

Many thanks for your encouraging words Kiko...
I'll keep updating the tutorial as I acquire new information or make new observations on the set-up. 

You mention Secure Boot/UEFI support: Jerry has already indicated that support for this is not likely to appear in the LL 3.0 series.  A bit too early. 

Yes I'm aware that Linux Mint now has UEFI support - apparently since October 2012 a number of others have also been supported in addition to Ubuntu i.e. Rhel, Fedora, OpenSUSE, Debian, Bridge Linux, Arch Linux, Aptosid, Siduction, see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/which-linux-distros-have-uefi-aware-installation-media-4175429194/

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2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ i3-3110M - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom N455@1.66GHz - Manjaro (tried LL3 series but lagged)
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel T3200@2.0GHz - LL4.4/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working beautifully)
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UPDATE 10:
A summary added,  introduction indicated, and extraneous waffle removed!
Have a good day  ;)
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2017 - Raspberry pi 3B (4cores) ~ Arm710@1.2GHz - LibreElec, used for upgrading our Samsung TV (excellent for the task)  
2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ i3-3110M - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom N455@1.66GHz - Manjaro (tried LL3 series but lagged)
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel T3200@2.0GHz - LL4.4/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working beautifully)
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