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Requests:App selection during setup / LL 'core' edition
« on: March 02, 2020, 02:21:18 PM »
 

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Hi all.
I have been using LL for about 3 years now and i love it. In a professional context, I am more and more seriously considering to test its 
industrialized integration into a mixed MS/GNU corporate environment (managed with MS AD) in order to confront the challenge 
and the work it represents.
 
Around this project, I have 2 suggestions / requests:

- Could the system installer get an optional "custom applications" setting UI that would allow the user
to remove some applications (or even better discard their installation) or install others during LL setup ?
Moreover if this setting tool used an installation list that could be exported/imported it would be great:
Admin or users could create default application profiles for computers with different usage. 
Useful in a corporate environment.
- Is a "core" edition of LL meaningful in your opinion ? I mean a lighter edition that would only ship the
the applications/system tools required to configure/support/secure the system but no office, media, or user accessories apps ?
 
Well you can see these both requests are linked :-)
Thx a lot for reading guys.
 


Re: Requests:App selection during setup / LL 'core' edition
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2020, 05:34:18 PM »
 

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Unfortunately, we don't have the voluntary manpower for creating different LL ISO's. If you represent a corporate, and you want large scale deployment, I can be hired to create a Core version for you. This is one of the ways the project can be supported.
 

Re: Requests:App selection during setup / LL 'core' edition
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2020, 08:03:46 PM »
 

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TO ALL: The OP has asked specifically for requests pertaining to LL. Keep it LL focused please. Thank you.
 

Re: Requests:App selection during setup / LL 'core' edition
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2020, 09:12:49 AM »
 

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Hi Jerry and thx for the answer.
 
Unfortunately, I am at the very beginning of this test/project and I can hardly imagine i could get some funds from my company to be able to hire you as an external contractor / consultant at this stage.
To clarify it, I am a desktop environment manager/architect dealing with the management of MS and mobile user environment in a company.
For several reasons and various uses cases, I wish I could test the automated integration and configuration of other desktop systems within an AD domain / MS ecosystem.
And for other reasons I am targeting small footprint distros with XFCE and i would rather stay away from RedHat/Fedora or Suse (and moreover I LOVE LL).
 
But at the moment this project is not related to any formal request from my management. I only wish to setup a proof of concept
and confront the relevance and the complexity of the task. So I would rather say this a personal project aiming to
open new perspective in a professional and corporate environment. And I even can see potential benefits about it in a broader context than my current activity in this company.

Anyway I liked your answer because this is the good way an editor can add new functionalities to his product while
user/customer can get a tailored development that sticks to his needs. 
Do you think it is possible to "hire" you in a more private manner in exchange of a donation and a participation to the workload ?
Of course I do not have the budget of a company and your expertise might be costly :-) 
But, well, it doesn't cost anything to ask, does it ?
 
Again, thx for your reply.
Regards
Last Edit: March 03, 2020, 09:25:00 AM by pedrito
 

Re: Requests:App selection during setup / LL 'core' edition
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2020, 10:49:41 AM »
 

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 "I only wish to setup a proof of concept and confront the relevance and the complexity of the task"

As far as a POC the first thing to work on is how to secure the Linux clients from hacking the MS AD deployment. You really need a Linux server in between AD and any Linux client to prevent that. A lot of AD basic security measures are moot to a Linux client. On a corporate level this would probably be the first wall you hit.

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Re: Requests:App selection during setup / LL 'core' edition
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2020, 12:24:42 PM »
 

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Hi Trinidad. You speak the truth. This is one of my first concern. and I have many :-)
  • the deployment of AD user rights which should be the less complicated
  • the selection of AD global policies that make sense in a cross platform environment (not only MS oriented) and how to distribute or mimic them for LL workstations
  • the definition of addtional linux oriented policies. And how to deploy them if possible using the same method as for the cross-platform policies deploy
  • How to deal with HDMI and more genrally how to deal with hardware restictions that sometimes impact linux
  • How to deal with the lifecycle of hardware related to the lifecycle of the kernel and the lifecycle of specific business applications that run the poduction
  • the definition of a cross-platform application catalog for both OS for some applications or business
  • the method for creating the LL master wich implies to develop an orchestration sequencer alowing to configure a LL core system and integrate it to the domain and connect it to the needed services/infrastructure, before software deploy
  • the software deploy using a crossplatform management suite (LanDesk-like or OCS/GLPI or whatever) as newer version of SCCM do not manage linux anymore
  • The question of local security: implementing Palo Alto IDS / AV or no AV / Local IP filtering or Not /
  • How to deal with Editor's support
  • Can Wine be seriously considered as an acceptable workaround in a production context in order to deal with obsolete software
  • What is the average user acceptance limit for a new desktop ergonomy
  • As I am quite sure that there is no chance that a company could or should shift from an OS to another in a big-bang mode, what are the businesses and use cases in my company where a switch to LL would be relevant or a quick win ?
Well I could go on for hours as the questions are numerous :-) Some of these point are related more generally to cross-platefortm environments matters. Some others are directly adressed in the perspective of using LL (or other Ubuntu + XFCE distros). But I am excited with this small IT "R&D" project :-)Regards
 

Re: Requests:App selection during setup / LL 'core' edition
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2020, 07:07:12 PM »
 

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@pedrito PM me with exactly what you DO want from our current ISO (Menu by Menu) and any corporate branding, any applications/functionality you require added to the ISO, and I'll give you a quote.
 

Re: Requests:App selection during setup / LL 'core' edition
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2020, 06:28:40 AM »
 

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Hi Jerry. How are you ? Thx for your answer.
Do you mind if we can audio-skype for 10 minutes because IMO direct exchange is quicker and more profitable than PM for that kind of discussion ?
I can call you between 8 AM and 12 AM NZ time or 9 PM to 12 PM NZ time.
Please PM me your preference and skype ID.
Thx
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Re: Requests:App selection during setup / LL 'core' edition
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