Post by: vint on March 22, 2023, 11:25:26 AM
Recently over the past 3 days when I check for updates for software and security I'm getting updates for printer drivers that I don't need. So I checked how the updater works on Ubuntu and what I found out is that on Ubuntu the user is able to check what updates they want in a check box and leave the updates they don't want. Why since Linux Lite is a fork of Ubuntu do we not have that same choice? There isn't any reason for me to have printer drivers I don't use on my machine taking up space, or other software I don't use getting updates because I don't have the option to not update them. Why is this not included?
Best regards,
Post by: Jerry on March 23, 2023, 06:02:39 AM
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Post by: vint on March 23, 2023, 12:13:52 PM
Thanks for the response but that doesn't answer the question totally, I am not meaning to offend you and your hard work on Linux Lite. Linux Lite is based on Ubuntu is it not? I noticed that Ubuntu OS users updater allows them to have a choice when updating software on their machines, I assume that you the creator of Linux Lite programmed the updater to not give us the choice. Am I mistaken? I thought that having choices and options was what open source and Linux was all about and what separates it from evil Windows and Microsoft.
I don't need printer driver updates for printers I don't have and I should have the choice to not update them or remove them entirely, what would be awesome is for the "kernel" to have printer drivers for all printers. I am a novice with Linux and I'm sure that I missed something along the way and you are the expert so enlighten me.
Best regards,
Post by: bonnevie on March 23, 2023, 09:19:35 PM
Hello Vint,
Is that what you're thinking about? Yad is available in Synaptics. I suggest you read about it in Ubuntu forums. Should it be included in "stock" LinuxLite? As Jerry said, a new LinuxLite user coming from Windows would be tempted to untick whatever seems like bloat without understanding the consequences on dependencies. Once you know what you're doing, it's easy to just add it to your toolbox.
https://imgur.com/YOqD56r.png (https://imgur.com/YOqD56r.png)
Post by: vint on March 24, 2023, 12:52:46 PM
I will certainly take a look at the link provided, I've already made my thoughts on the subject very clear as it is about the freedom to choose. Linux Lite saved my laptop from the depths of Microsoft Hell and for that I'm forever grateful, and Linux is the future of home computing as far as I'm concerned.
Best regards,
Post by: The Repairman on March 24, 2023, 01:41:44 PM
There's a safe way to remove most software from your distro which you don't want and don't need.
Open the Menu and go to System and then open Package Manager aka Synaptic Package Manager.
Open the search box and enter whatever you wish to remove and then see what other software and dependencies will be removed with it.
The beauty of the Package manager is it alerts you to what other software relies on other shred software and its shared dependencies which can break things if removed.
One must exercise caution and care and common sense when removing default software packages as if done haphazardly can and most likely will break a working Linux distro and I speak from my own personal experience.
There are other ways to remove the unwanted software however the Package Manager aka Synaptic Package Manager I've found to be the safest way.
I'm a Linux user not a Linux guru.
I can understand not wanting to keep software that will never be used and taking up space on a hard drive because I use 40 GB and 80 GB hard drives.
My 2 cents worth.
Post by: firenice03 on March 25, 2023, 10:37:13 AM
As you have LL installed you do have the freedom to customize and configure, install or uninstall as you like. Freedom always comes with a price, for an OS that could be stability or having to reinstall the OS. Knowledge is the difference, if you're Linux proficient you'll have better outcomes that a Linux newcomer.
If I may, a different approach to asking your question..
I see there is an installer in Ubuntu that allows the user to select individual updates, is this something on LL's roadmap? I think this could be something a majority of LL may find useful when repurposing older hardware.
Some of these applications could be a fork of another project. Digging into that aspect you may find its possible to install in LL, or perhaps asking the package developer how to include in Ubuntu derivatives.
I hope this has been informative as is my intent.
Post by: vint on March 25, 2023, 11:44:04 AM
Congratulations, thank you for your response.
best regards,
Post by: vint on March 25, 2023, 11:48:19 AM
Thank you for your polite response, there is a lesson here.
Best regards,