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Linux Lite 5.0 .vs MX Linux
« on: June 04, 2020, 01:23:05 PM »
 

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My bedroom TV computer is a Chromebox that was hacked to run any UEFI compatible OS. I ran Windows 8.1 for a few years, but 8.1 is getting a little long in the tooth and Windows 10 is a joke.

The main requirement I had was being able to run Retropie which narrows my options down to Debian distros. I went distro hopping for something that was fast on my limited hardware and easy to use with my limited understanding of Linux. Ubuntu is fairly easy to use, but really slow. It seems to get a little slower with every new release. Even some modern computers run like carp in Ubuntu. The watermark for ease of use is how easy is it to install Chrome and Kodi. If it takes me more than 5 minutes to figure out how to install those two very common apps and get the latest versions, the distro sucks.

MX Linux treated me reasonably well and I might have rode of into the sunset running it if not for a news article about the Linux Lite 5 release. I tried the Live version from my SD card, as I always do, and even in "test drive" mode it seemed really fast, so I decided to try installing it.

Long story short, this is the perfect OS for any PC with a few caveats. There are 2 small problems and 1 huge unsolvable problem that would give me pause in recommending it to everyone.

Small problems:

1. Most of the preinstalled is the best available in the open source world with two exceptions. The default "notepad" is shite. Featherpad, the default in MX Linux, is much better. Also Qpdfview is the best pdf viewer because it also allows editing of PDF documents without having to deal with Adobe. Fortunately both apps are easily installable and able to be set as the default.

2. Most apps open in the upper left hand corner of the screen every time regardless of where I had the window when I closed it. A few apps, like Featherpad get this right, but other apps like the file manager do not.

Huge unsolvable(any time soon) problem:

No support for commercial software. Not really the fault of Linux Lite or any other distro, but it is the reason why most people are not running Linux. This is not a deal breaker for me because I use all open source software(Kodi, Retropie, Qbittorrent, etc.), but anyone that needed to run Quickbooks, MS Office, Photoshop, etc. would be sunk. The open source alternatives to these programs either don't exist or they suck. Commercial software will never be available in Linux as long as there are 5 million distros. If we could all just agree that Linux Lite is the only distro worth running and focus all farther development there companies might actually start porting their software to Linux. Until then I just don't see it happening.
 

Re: Linux Lite 5.0 .vs MX Linux
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2020, 10:45:23 AM »
 

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Hi,
I don't know about the "pad" software since I use another one. ;)

For MS Office. I have not used it on my personnal computer for years. The only problem would be in a business environment using Exchange/Office 365, but that would be Outlook related. There  are alternatives that I have not tried recently though.Teams is a newcomer and is available on Linux :https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-teams-blog/microsoft-teams-is-now-available-on-linux/ba-p/1056267
The "hard" issue is that almost all accounting software are Windows only, most do not even have a Mac version.Add to this that most are poorly proprammed with bugs ans issues galore, so, I would not even try to ask them as they have their plates full.Note : I have not tried running them on Wine, this could easily work sice they are not "complex" programs.

I'm also in graphics design and I was tired of Photoshop's bloat (+ distribution type and prices). Been using Krita, which is free, of course.
It's a little more for illustrators but serves me to perfection. I strongly suggest to try it, it's really powerfull.
I would mention that gaming on Linux is also a sore point. But, it has made great strides in the recent years.In the long run, I can see that as an advantage having "younger" minds not scared of usng another OS than the one of "common folks".I tried Linux several years ago and didn't have enough for me to be able to work.I re-tried it about three years ago and have not turned back since. ;)
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Re: Linux Lite 5.0 .vs MX Linux
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2020, 02:09:04 AM »
 

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Hi,

Linux Lite is an awesome distro. Any newbie interested in trying linux distros should start with Lite. Having said that I have a suggestion to make. MX Linux too is a good newbie friendly distro. The MX Tools particularly, make using MX, a lot easier for a newbie. I like the MX Snapshot tool particularly. With that one can get the snapshot of the entire installed system and use it to create a live USB and install MX on another computer too. It would be awesome if Lite also incorporates these really useful tools in it and provides a linux beginner with even more newbie friendly distro.

https://mxlinux.org/current-release-features/

I would request the developers of Linux Lite to consider this.

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« Last Edit: August 08, 2020, 02:12:21 AM by tuxexplore »
 

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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2020, 04:17:34 AM »
 

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We don't compete with or compare ourselves and then fill the void based on some peoples wishes when it comes to 'other' distros. We must stay focused on our own, unique objectives.
MX is unique and has a vision, Linux Lite is unique and has a vision.
 

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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2020, 07:16:04 AM »
 

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I find the documentation in Linux Lite far superior to MX-Linux's. That makes all the difference to a newbie coming from Windows IMO.
 

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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2020, 12:31:40 AM »
 

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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2020, 08:33:54 AM »
 

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Hi,

I have used Lite up to 4.8, I haven't tried 5.0 yet, but have it on a USB for a friend.  I am trying MX now, I like it, but I'm not campaigning for either.

The Linux Lite manual is way ahead, and I even referenced it on MX forum when suggesting setting the Shred command  ;D!

As regards commercial software, I have used these on both LL and MX - Cryptomator and Xmind.

On MX I have an alternative to MXOffice - Softmaker FreeOffice, really nice, more directly matches MSOffice, if thats what one wants (I don't). They have a paid version too. Should work on Lite. I use Libre too.

Edit:
I meant to add I do think Linux Lite is a better entry point for those starting in Linux, not least the manual and the very helpful forum.
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Re: Linux Lite 5.0 .vs MX Linux
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2020, 09:19:44 AM »
 

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Re: Linux Lite 5.0 .vs MX Linux
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2020, 02:18:10 PM »
 

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I'm also newbie in LL world . Previously I use MX linux for daily use.
but sometimes touchpad stop working in MX . So I think to move with Linux mint but
it's also give me same issue like MX . I search and find Linux Lite and works great with
my 11 inch Asus low end laptop. well simple design, best performance and have great tools like MX .
But one problem I face with linux lite is that screen tearing , I solve this problem . because I face
this problem with MX and MX gives bulitin scripts in MX tweaks . I use it LL and solve.
best software selection in linux lite . love linux lite software and tweaks tools.     
And great UEFI support .
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I tried Linux Lite 5.0. It's awesome. It is much nearer to Windows than any other distro out there. Best suited for Windows users who want to try and switch to Linux. Even the names of apps are so easy for a newbie. I even recommended Linux Lite to one of my friends who is a Windows user and has never tried a linux distro so far.
 

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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2020, 10:54:18 AM »
 

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Just wanted to say how good Linux Lite is. It's the best distro I have used, and I have been a Windows user for a very long time (since Win 3.1). It's so stable and reliable, and so good at giving a Windows user everything they need. Immediately on installing an OS I would be thinking "How do I update the OS?, How do you look for drivers? How do I change the look of the desktop and wallpaper? How do I backup the OS? I want to install Google Chrome to access Google Doc's? or another well known program. The list of easy install programs and help information is great and so well explained. I mainly use computers for everyday tasks and my music compositions, so I am not so good at "under the hood" stuff. Just like a automobile driver doesn't have to know everything about his engine.

Linux Lite has always been stable and easy for everyday people like me to use and understand. Linux Lite is the last of three distro's I have tried, and for me it's the easiest and the best, with great lead-you-by-the-hand help which I really appreciate. I would like to say a big "Thank You" to all the people that work on Linux Lite. Even my wife is very impressed, and that takes a lot ;)
 

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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2020, 05:43:00 AM »
 

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No support for commercial software. Not really the fault of Linux Lite or any other distro, but it is the reason why most people are not running Linux. This is not a deal breaker for me because I use all open source software(Kodi, Retropie, Qbittorrent, etc.), but anyone that needed to run Quickbooks, MS Office, Photoshop, etc. would be sunk. The open source alternatives to these programs either don't exist or they suck.
If you are running an open source OS why do you expect commercial companies would jump in and what would be the big plus?
Looking at your desires you wan to have Windows applications but expect them to be ported to Linux?
I'm around since Red Hat 5.1, yeah that's a long time ago and I ran lots of GNU / Linux distro's out there. Even switched for a while to BeOS which was magical but died due to lack of succes.
A German commercial company picked it up and sold it as Zeta, again died due to lack of succes. Now it is picked up by the open source community and develop, slowly but it continues. People should look to their own needs, if you want the commercial way install Windows or buy a Mac but stop comparing Linux with these.
Linux is big and runs on most servers world wide and has a lot of followers world wide for the Desktop distro's. Yes there are a lot but a lot of people have different needs or do you want everybody to drive in the same car too? Don't think so either. About your software issues I don't have them. I'm very satisfied with Libre Office and Gimp which fully do where I need them for.
I like Linux Lite on my older box but run Mint Mate on my primary box and have Zorin installed at my wife's PC since that's what runs good on it. We have many options in Linux land and all are for free, use what you like and search which distro is fitting your needs. If you need commerical software pay for it and change from OS but stop asking for things that will not happen since they are useless.
 

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2020, 09:16:39 AM »
 

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I had hopes for BeOS... even bought a few actions when they were going strong and had a bright future.
Now I hear children cry and see gloomy gray skies when I come accross the name.
So sad... :(
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2020, 09:26:21 AM »
 

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I had hopes for BeOS... even bought a few actions when they were going strong and had a bright future.
Now I hear children cry and see gloomy gray skies when I come accross the name.
So sad... :(
That's why I mentioned it, commercial interference is not always the way to go, especially not in the open Source world.
 

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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2020, 06:57:15 PM »
 

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Yeah... I was young and naive at the time. First real job... had money to spare.
Had a Commodore Amiga, BeOS seemed the right way to go when Commodore hit the dirt.
What a fringe computer geek I was. Enough that I vowed that I'd never buy a PC, and I didn't.

Been awhile I told this, my cool story about my first PC :
I filled about 2/3 of a prize draw bucket at the college store and WON my first PC. For every purchase they gave a ticket, I shopped around and they charged 1 cent to staple sheets together. Made a photocopy for 10 cents (single sheet) and had them stapled the edge in rows... HA, they though to discourage saying it had to be "per purchase" / "per visit". I had almost no courses that week so I went to staple my sheet, went around outside and came back... I think around 240 times. ;) Last purchase before the draw... I plastified my Single 240-timed-Stapled-Sheet. Total : 0.10+2.40+1.00=3.50 for 242 tickets, not bad, not considering the time spent and monopolyzing the nice person at the cash register for a week  :o .
The double twist... When they had the draw, the store "boss" tried to fool people saying another name when he read the winning ticket... then he gave the ticket to another person to "discard" I'm guessing. She then looked at it and said... "Ahaha, your funny!" to her boss, thinking he was joking and said that "I" won!... I'll never forget the boss's "smile" right then. He had the same one in the picture they took for the occasion.
I was the star when I got back to the computer club, rolling in the brand new PC I just won!, the fastest available at the time.
If they make a movie about me, this part should be in slow-mo with a Rage Against The Machine song playing. REBEL!!! 8)
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