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General => Suggestions and Feedback => Topic started by: Jerry on February 07, 2016, 10:08:49 PM

Title: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Jerry on February 07, 2016, 10:08:49 PM
It's that time again. It's your feedback that steers this distro in a progressive direction. Please remember to only include ideas that have both wide appeal and a sense of familiarity to Windows users eg. no Terminal stuff, ease of use, 'granny proof'.

If you have previously made a suggestion and it has not made it into other versions of Linux Lite, please do not make the suggestion again, I look at all the posts made and carefully weigh up their pros/cons. Your suggestions are appreciated, but like Linus once said...

Quote from: Linus Torvalds - first Kernel release email

I’d like to know what features most people would want. Any suggestions
 are welcome, but I won’t promise I’ll implement them.


Really looking forward to all of your suggestions :)

So far:

- New login screen (no more lightdm-webkit)
- Possible inclusion of Gnome Software (a software center).
- Looking at adding Ubuntu Extras by default (seems to have codecs people are use to on Windows ootb)
- Folders accessible from Menu - https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/suggestions-and-feedback/suggestion-for-an-addition-to-the-menu/ (https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/suggestions-and-feedback/suggestion-for-an-addition-to-the-menu/)

(http://i.imgur.com/AH2W6og.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/MaHHaLt.png)

Linux Lite 3.0 due June 1st, 2016.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: MarcosM on February 07, 2016, 10:35:35 PM
Hello author. I like the idea of the computer addon for whisker, but I think u should keep the login screen the same because it feels more distinct and also it will be very easy for windows users to use when they log in.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: rokytnji on February 07, 2016, 11:19:04 PM
Easy pepperflashplugin-nonfree and freshplayer integration on the already installed in firefox.

Here is my AntiX 15 readout Jerry to show what I am talking about (via command line of course)

Code: [Select]
harry@biker:~
$ apt search freshplayer
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
freshplayerplugin/jessie 0.3.3-0mx150+1 i386
  PPAPI-host NPAPI-plugin adapter

harry@biker:~
$ apt search pepperflash
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
pepperflashplugin-nonfree/stable 1.8.1 i386
  Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin

My readout above is from Debian Jessie repos. I figure Linux Lite can maybe be tweaked to have all this working out of the box for Windows users needing Netflix or whatever in their browsers. Be it Opera or Chromium which will see this as soon as they are installed by the new user.
The freshplayer is for Firefox running latest adobe flash 20 or what ever is around in google by the time you release 3.0.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Jerry on February 07, 2016, 11:36:41 PM
I have looked at freshplayer in the past, and even I had issues with it let alone - https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin/blob/master/doc/known-issues.md (https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin/blob/master/doc/known-issues.md) Chrome installer in Lite Software will have pepperflashplugin-nonfree as discussed in previous threads. We need reliable solid software thats not going to break. Ubuntu can be a little slow on flash updates, but it's usually within a day. Youtube is on html5 now too.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: T1125P on February 07, 2016, 11:40:36 PM
Hello, I don't know if this has been added since I only use LL 1.0.6 right now, but maybe if possible to add something like Win 7, create a system image to a another drive or disc's. Then if something goes wrong we can just load the image as if nothing happened ^|^
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: ALPERDURUKAN on February 08, 2016, 12:55:46 AM
Firstly, thank you for this amazing distro. I am a big fan of your work without even using it. I am on a new computer so all of my other OSes are booting with UEFI; therefore i request UEFI support, i know there was a thread to test it. I am not an expert, but I would like to help if it is still available.

Edit: There was an LL 2.6 iso so i just gave it a try; installed it as legacy-bios and booted with Linux Mint UEFI live media to install necessary grub-efi* packages and converted it to UEFI! I will update this post as i see some possible improvements.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Jerry on February 08, 2016, 01:10:51 AM
A little cleaner login, full date, power options and user:

(http://i.imgur.com/2U0GrIn.png)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: bfb on February 08, 2016, 02:10:16 AM
I really like the suggested log-in screen. Clean and modern.
How about some additions to Lite software?

1) http://www.freefilesync.org/
2) Audacity
3) Calibre
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Wirezfree on February 08, 2016, 02:29:13 AM
Hello, I don't know if this has been added since I only use LL 1.0.6 right now, but maybe if possible to add something like Win 7, create a system image to a another drive or disc's. Then if something goes wrong we can just load the image as if nothing happened ^|^

I notice you are using 1.0.6,
In 2.8 there is Systemback that gives very similar results, Restore Points / Live Image creation

Try a "Live Boot" of 2.8 and see if it works on your Hardware.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Wirezfree on February 08, 2016, 02:33:27 AM
I vote for to add Cherrytree to LL Software Centre,
I think others would find it a great way to keep notes and much much more.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: aviceda on February 08, 2016, 05:39:02 AM
How about changing the 'priority' of LL from the default distro in a multiboot grub-loader?
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: T1125P on February 08, 2016, 12:02:10 PM
Thanks Wirezfree I did not know that. I will most certainly be using this in the next version of Linux Lite. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Coastie on February 08, 2016, 12:27:20 PM
A little cleaner login, full date, power options and user:

It looks great but I won't be using it because I auto login.  8)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Coastie on February 08, 2016, 12:30:48 PM
I don't know what the program is but I have seen it on You Tube reviews. It is a program that shows the kernel you are using, optional kernels, risk, etc. This would be helpful for users like me who want to use and stay with the LTS kernel.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Glenn on February 08, 2016, 01:05:00 PM
It may be of personal preference but I'd suggest Parole in lieu of or in addition to Clementine as a Music Player option within "lite software", it's light on resources and straight forward.

Also, I'd suggest the addition of this link: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/  within the Linux Lite Control Center and within the Linux Lite Help Manual. 
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: wkuehl on February 08, 2016, 01:15:35 PM
Hi Everyone!
     For the most part I have had a very enjoyable experience with this os.  I have been a long time Mac, Windows, and Mint Linux user.  I decided to try this os because Linux Format highly recommended it.  It is not hard to figure out why this Linux OS is becoming popular.  It is very easy to use.  Your Lite Software Tool is excellent an idea to add popular software that is not included with the os.  I would add more software through this medium channel than changing your lineup.  Would you consider adding the following items to your Lite Software Tool?  I would like to have you add Cinnamon's applets, grub customizer, a weather applet that actually works for the menu bar (this has been a real hassle with a number of linux os'), and a theme changer similar to plymouth.
        As for granny proofing or my mom proofing, I would like the opening feather graphic or other graphics to continue from turn on to login and login to start button usage.  No black whatsoever.  The user should not have to feel like they lost their screen graphics. Incidentally, I do like your proposed login screen!! Maybe have a nice grub graphics page like Zorin.  Also, I would like to suggest as well a desktop only app to turn-off icons not unlike what Mint Cinnamon uses.  Setting up printers needs to be more granny-proof as well.  I have no problem doing this.  But, I can see others having this hassle.
         I did notice in a couple of incidents where my Linux Lite 2.8 froze up temporarily.  Not sure why this happened but it always came back.  Did not notice this in 2.6. Also, I noticed screenlets sometimes disappear at startup.  Other times they show up as they should.  This has happened a few times on my other computers as well.
         Otherwise, keep up the good work!  This os is rapidly becoming my first choice to use!! :)
         
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: ZoA on February 08, 2016, 03:57:43 PM
First off awesome distro! I'm using it for almost 2 years now, starting on 1.08, and now I'm on 2.6, and i had no problems except minor one with Croatian keyborad when I installed 2.6 version.

Distro is great as it is, only improvements that comes to mind are related to File Manger. I don't know if something can be done abut it but I think following features should be added to it if possible:

1) when in "detailed list" mode  file manger allows for user to change types and size of the columns for file name, size, type, date modified and other. But those columns and sizes are memorized for all directors if automatic size adjustment is turned off, and not at all if it is turned on. Ideal would be if file manager wild remember those user settings for each directory individually. If implemented this should be optional because some users might like using same stings in all directories.

2) as far as i can see "detailed list" mode in file manger has only limited number of option to sort files by. I think it would be nice if file manger could recognize media files and allow adding columns with data such as audio files length in minutes, and media file meta data such as track author, album and similar. This way it would be easier to sort media files with only file manger.

3) it would be great if each file manager window would have  search bar on it that would automatically search active directory and subdirectories, much like similar bar in MS windows explorer.

P.S. sorry for bad English

Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: nomko on February 08, 2016, 04:18:28 PM
My improvements:
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Jerry on February 08, 2016, 06:26:14 PM
Great feedback so far, keep it coming.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: ptyerman on February 09, 2016, 05:04:56 AM
A simple one click button/solution for power management on/off would be very beneficial for newcomers to LL and Linux in general. For example, when I load up Audacious or similar for music to listen to while I am busy in the other room or something, I have to go into power management and disable it otherwise the PC shuts down to sleep mode.
It would be nice if multimedia players did a keep alive automatically , but until they do a simple solution for people used to Windows would be nice.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: sathyamax on February 09, 2016, 05:32:34 AM
Login could be more lighter with transparency
(http://i.imgur.com/w6JWqn5.png)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: sathyamax on February 09, 2016, 05:34:06 AM
Login could be more lighter with transparency
(http://i.imgur.com/3XyfAcK.png)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Jerry on February 09, 2016, 05:39:12 AM
How did you achieve this sathyamax?

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: sathyamax on February 09, 2016, 05:48:36 AM
photoshop. I just work on your picture, it is very nice what you propose.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Jerry on February 09, 2016, 05:59:47 AM
Oh, I thought you changed some of the code. I do like the transparency.

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Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: sathyamax on February 09, 2016, 06:12:55 AM
Hope someone can help with transparency.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Wirezfree on February 09, 2016, 02:38:13 PM
I have no idea what's involved.. ??? ?

But for consistency could Lite Software be made to look like Lite Control Centre..?
So the tabs would indicate the type of software:
Audio, Video, Media, Utilities etc..
Tap on the tab, see the list, and tick what you want.

It would give a nice consistent experience,
If I only had time, I would try to draw what I mean.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: jpmacedosilva on February 09, 2016, 05:33:24 PM
LightDM in Linux Lite is a great improvement. Maybe add the LightDM GTK+ Greeter Settings tool, to personalize it.
Xfce 4.12 would be great to.
To have the system in the same language of choice during the installation process, is a must have for me... Including the items in the menu (ditch the personalizations that the system installs in the /home/user/.local/share/applications folder, because their name do not change when you change the system language).
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: nomko on February 10, 2016, 01:23:41 AM
Quote from: Jerry
- Looking at adding Ubuntu Extras by default (seems to have codecs people are use to on Windows ootb)
This will improve users experience a lot! Take a look at Linux Mint were they install all the codecs by default. Simply, easy out-of-the-box experience. This is one of their main objectives to advertise Linux Mint as being user friendly. Doing the ssame will help LinuxLiteOS a lot!

Quote from: Jerry
- Folders accessible from Menu - https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/suggestions-and-feedback/suggestion-for-an-addition-to-the-menu/ (https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/suggestions-and-feedback/suggestion-for-an-addition-to-the-menu/)
Hmmm...not sure this is an improvement. It could be a good assistance for ex-Windows users, but the Whiskermenu will get more cramped up in such way you need to expand the Whiskermenu. On the other, with today's screen sizes it won't be such a big problem.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: anon222 on February 10, 2016, 11:28:36 AM
- Looking at adding Ubuntu Extras by default (seems to have codecs people are use to on Windows ootb)
In some countries shipping with codecs is illegal. That's why Ubuntu doesn't include them by defaulft.
On the other hand even watching DVD's on linux is illegal in the US, but no one got caught. :)

Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: nomko on February 10, 2016, 01:26:41 PM
- Looking at adding Ubuntu Extras by default (seems to have codecs people are use to on Windows ootb)
In some countries shipping with codecs is illegal. That's why Ubuntu doesn't include them by defaulft.
This can be resolved by providing a codec-free iso image of Linux Lite. Same as Mint does with their Mint 17.x versions. But that doesn't prevent people from, let's say USA, to download the version with all the codecs built in. But as distro provider you can say that you did obey the laws.....
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: liamjake05 on February 10, 2016, 02:39:38 PM
What about if the Ubuntu software center is installed by default
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: torreydale on February 10, 2016, 03:37:21 PM
To liamjake05,

That has been addressed in the following thread https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/on-topic/another-reason-i'm-glad-i-chose-linux-lite/msg16581/#msg16581.  A replacement to the Ubuntu Software Center is forthcoming.  Perhaps that will be a consideration for a future Linux Lite release.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: N4RPS on February 11, 2016, 05:22:29 AM
Hello!

The Bluetooth mod, as posted in the forums? Been expecting this to be incorporated eventually, for Bluetooth audio support out of the box.

No one else has this, so it would give LL an edge. Adding it myself every time is a real drag...

73 DE N4RPS
Rob
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Jerry on February 11, 2016, 05:42:45 AM
Hi N4RPS, I have addressed that issue in the BT thread.

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Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: nomko on February 11, 2016, 06:08:01 AM
What about if the Ubuntu software center is installed by default
Maybe good idea for some users, but i use Synaptic which provides me a more powerful tool to install/remove programs. The Ubuntu software center doesn't show you everything what's going on when you install a program. I had a past experience whit Software center installing a program while in the background not clearly made visible removing another program together with system dependent packages screwing up my installation. Synaptic shows you much better what will be installed, removed and/or replaced. I find this much better info.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: avj on February 11, 2016, 06:49:32 PM
I would like to see a section added to Lite Tweaks that allows the user to pick a kernel that works best with their hardware, if it is possible I would like to see older kernels like 3.13 added to that section also. I think this would help prevent people with older machines from having to look for an alternative or having to stick to an older version of Linux Lite.  I think that this all depends on the choices made in the version of Ubuntu that 3.0 will be based on, but would really like to see it.  :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: nomko on February 12, 2016, 01:10:47 AM
I would like to see a section added to Lite Tweaks that allows the user to pick a kernel that works best with their hardware, if it is possible I would like to see older kernels like 3.13 added to that section also. I think this would help prevent people with older machines from having to look for an alternative or having to stick to an older version of Linux Lite.  I think that this all depends on the choices made in the version of Ubuntu that 3.0 will be based on, but would really like to see it.  :)

A big +1!!!
The only distro who provides such an option is Linux Mint through their Update Manager. It works excellent and you can select the best kernel suited for your system. Every distro should have a similar tool like that instead of "fooling and joking" around to get the latest kernel installed.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Coastie on February 12, 2016, 11:57:06 AM

A big +1!!!
The only distro who provides such an option is Linux Mint through their Update Manager. It works excellent and you can select the best kernel suited for your system. Every distro should have a similar tool like that instead of "fooling and joking" around to get the latest kernel installed.

This must be what I was also recommending on February 08, 2016, 12:30:48 PM but did not remember what distro it was in.   :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Coastie on February 12, 2016, 12:04:04 PM
Could Lite Kernel Cleaner be modified for this to show recommended and LTS kernel?

(http://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/images/software/litetweaks/cleaner-04.png)

I think I would be want the LTS kernel.  :-\
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: liamjake05 on February 15, 2016, 01:18:30 PM
to torreydale

Well they could put the ubuntu software center in Lite Software
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: torreydale on February 15, 2016, 03:34:45 PM
The development team didn't want it.  And if you look at the link to the thread provided, it gives some insight as to why.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: avj on February 17, 2016, 11:47:48 AM
If possible I would like to have a "Send to" right click menu item for the desktop that allows me to send items from the desktop to my home, documents, music, pictures, and other relevant folders.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: anon222 on February 17, 2016, 08:39:33 PM
If possible I would like to have a "Send to" right click menu item for the desktop that allows me to send items from the desktop to my home, documents, music, pictures, and other relevant folders.
Yep.
This is a quick hack of shaggytwodopes's control center code. Will copy just one file but the general idea is that Thunar calls a py script :)
Code: [Select]
# Thunar custom actions launcher for Send to operations
#  Milos Pavlovic 2016 <[email protected]>
#
#  Save this file to /usr/local/bin/menu.py
#  Setting thunar custom action:
#  Name: Send to
#  Description : Copy file to...
#  Command: python3 /usr/local/bin/menu.py "%F"

#  File Pattern: *
#  Appearance: *
#
#  This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
#  it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
#  the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
#  (at your option) any later version.

#  This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
#  but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
#  MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
#  GNU General Public License for more details.

#  You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
#  along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
#  Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston,
#  MA 02110-1301, USA.


# $@ - file input

icons=[
["name","icon","command"],
["Send to Home","folder-home",'cp $@ $HOME/'],
["Send to Desktop","desktop",'cp $@ $HOME/Desktop/'],
["Send to Documents","folder-documents",'cp $@ $HOME/Documents/'],
["Send to Downloads","folder-downloads",'cp $@ $HOME/Downloads'],
["Send to Music","folder-music",'cp $@ $HOME/Music'],
["Send to Pictures","folder-pictures",'cp $@ $HOME/Pictures'],
["Send to Videos","folder-videos",'cp $@ $HOME/Videos'],
]


import os
import sys
import string
import subprocess
import shlex
from gi.repository import Gtk as Gtk
from gi.repository.GdkPixbuf import Pixbuf


class Menu:

    def destroy(self, widget, data=None):
        Gtk.main_quit()

    def action(self, widget, event, x, data=None):
        if len(sys.argv) > 1 and  x != '':
           files = "{0}".format(sys.argv[1])
           home = os.path.expanduser("~/")
           command = x.replace("$@", files)
           command = command.replace("$HOME", home)
           subprocess.Popen(shlex.split(command), stdout=subprocess.DEVNULL, stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL)
        else:
           print("No file(s) passed. Exiting.")
        Gtk.main_quit()

    def __init__(self):
        self.menu = Gtk.Menu()
        self.menu.connect("hide", self.destroy)
        it=Gtk.IconTheme.get_default()
        j=0
        first=True
        for line in icons:
            if first:
               first=False
               continue 
            try:
               if '/' in line[1]:
                  pixbuf = pixbuf_new_from_file(line[1])
               else:
                  pixbuf = it.load_icon(line[1],24,0)
            except:
               pixbuf = it.load_icon('gtk-stop',24,0)
            name = (line[0])
            execc = line[2]


            x=execc

            box = Gtk.Box()
            box.set_spacing(10)
            img = Gtk.Image()
            img.set_from_pixbuf(pixbuf)
            label = Gtk.Label(name)
            box.add(img)
            box.add(label)
            menuitem = Gtk.MenuItem()
            menuitem.add(box)
            menuitem.connect("button-press-event", self.action, x)
            self.menu.append(menuitem)
            j +=1
        height = j*30
        self.menu.set_size_request(150, height) # Workaround for height
        self.menu.popup(None, None, None, None, 0, Gtk.get_current_event_time())
        self.menu.show_all()
    def main(self):
        # Cliche init
        Gtk.main()

if __name__ == "__main__":

     app = Menu()
     app.main()

Just throwing in some ideas for now.
Would need to be reworked to use shutil to copy files and folders. And passing file and folder names from Thunar like this is not a very good idea. I guess writing to temp file would be preferable so file and folder names are read line by line in a script. Then Thunar custom action would be something like: "for file in %F; do echo $file >> tmp.txt; done; python3 /souce/ destination tmp.txt;rm -r tmp.txt".
There is also a case when filename exists. In that case script could offer to overwrite / change destination filename / skip coping that file or folder. To display error when it cant copy and finally a progress bar. :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: chicknfangz on February 17, 2016, 10:05:39 PM
Great work to the developers for Linux lite and to jerry

Awesome NEW logon jerry

is xfce 4.12 going to be in this release. Would really like to see it if possible
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Jerry on February 17, 2016, 10:09:24 PM
Whatever XFCE is in the Ubuntu repos at the time will be included. We don't use PPA's for XFCE, only the standard Ubuntu repo.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: chicknfangz on February 17, 2016, 11:28:44 PM
Whatever XFCE is in the Ubuntu repos at the time will be included. We don't use PPA's for XFCE, only the standard Ubuntu repo.

That didn't really answer my question LOL

This says its in 14.04 not sure if thats what you go by

https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12 (https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Jerry on February 17, 2016, 11:32:47 PM
That page shows that there is a PPA for 14.04, as I said, we don't use PPA's for XFCE so I did actually answer your question, you just needed to look at the information more carefully. Hope that's clear enough for you :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: chicknfangz on February 18, 2016, 01:26:18 AM
That page shows that there is a PPA for 14.04, as I said, we don't use PPA's for XFCE so I did actually answer your question, you just needed to look at the information more carefully. Hope that's clear enough for you :)

You said. Whatever XFCE is in the Ubuntu repos at the time will be included

So thats what i showed you here

https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12 (https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12)

And you really didn't tell me if it was going to be in the next release. But OK whatever  8)

What PPA is is under then?

http//jerry/Linuxliteos/ubuntu/ppa (http://http//jerry/Linuxliteos/ubuntu/ppa)

 :D
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Jerry on February 18, 2016, 01:32:38 AM
That is an Xubuntu PPA, not an Ubuntu repo. If you're going to continue posting inaccurate comments, you'll leave us no choice but to delete them to ensure the information in this thread stays accurate.

A PPA looks like this: ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12

A repo looks like this: deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main restricted
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: nomko on February 18, 2016, 04:32:50 AM
You said. Whatever XFCE is in the Ubuntu repos at the time will be included

So thats what i showed you here


And you really didn't tell me if it was going to be in the next release. But OK whatever  8)

Jerry stated very clearly which version of Xfce will be in the next Linux Lite release! So, not OK whatever...

Linux Lite is based on Ubuntu using the repositories of Ubuntu. This means that the version available through the Ubuntu repositories will be, by default, available under Linux Lite. Exactly as Jerry stated. As long Linux Lite is using Ubuntu repositories, Linux Lite will also follow the release schedule of all new packages and applications and libraries available in that Ubuntu repository. At the moment Canonical (developer of Ubuntu) decides to update some packages in the Ubuntu repositories, Linux Lite users will also get a notification that new updates are available. If canonical decides to update all packages for Ubuntu related to Xfce, then Linux Lite users can update their system as well.

In short terms speaking: Jerry is right!

Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: newtusmaximus on February 18, 2016, 07:42:09 AM
Is there a breakdown of the 2.8 iso showing what packages take what  size.

Is there a case for pruning the iso and moving  the larger items to the menu/system/Lite Software addition route.  Concerned that there is iso size creep and hence greater risk of crashes during installation.
Found that DVD route has given problems on older dvd readers, leaving no option than to use USB flash drive route which is not straight forward for newbie.
Wide  backwards hardware support and ease of system setup ( keyboards/  Graphics / modems etc especially ) being a priority so that the new user can get online.   The current iso is just over the CD maximum size - some pruning might still allow it to fit on CD.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Ottawagrant on February 23, 2016, 12:07:33 PM
Poster 'AVJ' on page 3 was asking for a kernel selection. I'd like to 2nd that one. I was reading up this morning on kernels that are coming up to EOL support. Version 3.13 seems to work very well on older machines, & with Linux Lite 3.0 due out this summer it would be nice to have a choice. If not, when the new LL comes out, a tutorial on changing the kernel to an older one would be greatly appreciated. An in place upgrade from 2.6 to 2.8 keeps the old kernel. Thanks to whoever had that idea, it was a good one.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: torreydale on February 23, 2016, 01:09:33 PM
It would be my guess that whatever kernel comes with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS will be a kernel they support for the long term duration like 3.13.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: newtusmaximus on March 01, 2016, 01:18:12 AM
I think the Kernel will be 4.4 LTS   according to Softpedia news 14/01/2016
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: torreydale on March 08, 2016, 03:40:56 PM
I'd like to request perhaps a different User Manager.  One that allows for creating additional users with their Full Names along with their username.  Also one that allows a non-administrator user to change their own password without having to use the passwd command in a terminal.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: LL-user on March 09, 2016, 04:31:07 AM
Hi,

Here is my suggestion list, randomly ordered, i.e. not by priority:
Any questions or need for clarification, please let me know.

Thanks for your consideration :)


"Sometimes when I consider what tremendous consequences come from little things, I am tempted to think there are no little things.” ~ Bruce Barton
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: torreydale on March 17, 2016, 11:06:01 AM
Since Linux Lite apparently borrowed from Manjaro for the Linux Lite Welcome Screen and maybe PCLinuxOS for the Lite Control Center, perhaps in some iteration, Lite can borrow from Ubuntu Mate's 16.04 Software Boutique to enhance Lite Software.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Wirezfree on March 17, 2016, 02:54:57 PM
@torreydale,

I think to give a consistent, and different brand image, LSC should look more like LCC
Have the Software by category tabs, so it looks like in LSC.

just my thoughts...
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: shaggytwodope on March 17, 2016, 04:14:38 PM
Since Linux Lite apparently borrowed from Manjaro for the Linux Lite Welcome Screen and maybe PCLinuxOS for the Lite Control Center, perhaps in some iteration, Lite can borrow from Ubuntu Mate's 16.04 Software Boutique to enhance Lite Software.

Creator for Lite Control Center here, never used (just googled tho) PCLinuxOS, nor seen the control center. But if your at all curious for the motivation/influence I remember using Mandriva Control Center years back and modeled after a rough memory of it. I'd be happy to answer any questions regarding Control Center and or design choices.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Richard B on April 22, 2016, 05:56:03 AM
Re recent Chrome fiasco. Could "Install Updates" include a check that software sources set are still valid and initiate a correction if not, or at least give clear instructions as to what to do (perhaps by linking to a web page dealing with current issues)? (LL is great - thanks for all your efforts.)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: bfb on April 26, 2016, 05:38:53 AM
As well as Lite I use Xubuntu, and in 16.04  Google Earth no longer works since it  requires the package "lsb-core" which is no longer available after upgrading.

Woud it be possible to include this package in Lite3?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2306007&p=13405154
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: newtusmaximus on April 26, 2016, 06:43:45 AM
May I second bfb's request? Google Earth Is an every day part of my workload.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.0 Suggestion Thread
Post by: Jerry on May 03, 2016, 02:38:28 AM
A HUGE thank you to all those who made suggestions for LL 3.0!!! I have read all of your posts, and collated them into a file that I regularly review and assess.

This thread will now close as I continue to build and test the Beta.

We are community :)