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General => Suggestions and Feedback => Topic started by: Jerry on June 30, 2015, 06:21:23 AM
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Today, we announced on Social Media our desire to listen to feedback about what people want to see in Linux Lite 2.6 when it's released in September. Since work has already begun on this, we'd like to start implementing some of these ideas into the system now. Keep in mind this operating system is built on a foundation of stable, tried and true software, for example we wouldn't include the latest XFCE just because it's available.
I'm really looking forward to all of your suggestions :)
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I came from Windows XP and Windows XP had automatic updates where it would automatically download updates.
It would be nice if Linux Lite had something similar to that, a feature where it would check if any updates are available for the OS and give us options on whether we want it to check for updates either daily, weekly, or monthly. and of course have an option to turn it off for people who don't want it on.
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Thanks Shady, that feature is currently under development, but still requires a lot of work :)
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Hi,
I'm brand new to linuxliteos, and very impressed. I've been looking for a smooth and light distro for a friend with a vista-era box. I've tried several, all good, but none quite right. I think LL is the closest yet. It's obviously carefully thought out, and I'm impressed with it's smoothness and elegance and unity as a package. The desktop dynamics are very workable, including copy/paste functionality and a functioning Start key on the keyboard. I think there is a strong market for a user-friendly alternate to Windows, and even more so as MS ventures into a subscription model.
- A couple of things I would suggest. I found the file manager and the text editor a bit too basic. I installed PCManFM and g-edit to replace them, but it doesn't seem that either of these can be made the system default through the menu.
- Like all ubuntu derivatives I have tried, I have to log into the keyring and the LAN at each boot in order to access shares. There also doesn't seem to be a(n easy) way to set DT shortcuts or FM bookmarks for external shares.
- I would also suggest a little more in the theme department. At least one dark theme would be good, and for the sake of the friend for whom I am preparing the current box, access items such as large mouse pointers and text cursors would be great.
Great job. Very impressed.
Blessings,
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Thanks paul1149, you're feedback is appreciated.
Re. the keyring issue, that is a pain. When you get it the first time, click 'Continue' twice without entering any password. That will stop the prompt returning. Delete the keyrings in /home/user/.local/share/keyrings/ (press Ctrl+H to see hidden folders)
Re. Dark theme - we're working on a all-in-one Theme pack. It will contain - mouse, icon and themes in one easy to install package. It will include a nice dark theme. Cheers :)
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Hi Jerry,
Some time ago you mentioned/posted about having an "On-Line" Backup/Sync solution.?
Can that be looked at again, probably to late for 2.6, but 2.8.?
In my Windows days, I tried many of them, over many years.
I eventually stuck with SugarSync, still have it my 1 Windows VM.
Dave
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- There also doesn't seem to be a(n easy) way to set DT shortcuts or FM bookmarks for external shares.
Hi Paul,
Take a look at this thread,
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/network/(solved-update)-new-install-issue-persists-accessing-nas-share-'read-only'/msg3902/#msg3902
I have shares mounted at boot-up with full R/W, and they are shown in Thunar and within applications.
(http://i.imgur.com/Rzo1EEp.png)
Dave
((Jerry, Sorry for usurping thread, paul1149 start a thread under Networking if you need to))
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All good Dave :) The online backup solution is still 'in the pipeline'.
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Thanks... Dave
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Pretty nice the way it is but if you have to add just one new feature, could you make it turn into a hot chick who likes giving massages?
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Thanks, Dave. With LL in a VM my Windows install was accessed via network share, but in a physical install it's a simple local drive, so my immediate bookmark/shortcut problem is automatically solved. I have worked before with your solution in the other thread using the fstab file in Mint, I believe it was. Not pretty, and I couldn't get it to work, though it should. Also, using a "credentials=<filespec with root read permissions only>" option rather than user/pass in clear text might be a little more secure.
But I don't want to distract this thread so any further issues I'll post separately.
Paul
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... Re. Dark theme - we're working on a all-in-one Theme pack. It will contain - mouse, icon and themes in one easy to install package. It will include a nice dark theme. Cheers :)
I like the BleuFear theme that that I "borrowed" from Spatry's Manjaro (COL), Gnome Brave icons (blue folders look good on gray background and I like the mesh trash can), and black DMZ mouse theme at largest setting of 48.
I guess I read on Facebook a suggestion to add Compiz because I don't see it here on the forum. I personally don't like all the fancy stuff it does and memory it uses so I would just uninstall it. If advanced users want it why not just add it as and option in Lite Software but not be installed by default.
I would also like a couple changes in Lite Tweaks. Color coding actions (safe = green and caution = red). Also an option to remove the boot splash not just restore it. I removed it with Grub Customizer. I don't understand much of what the text say my computer is doing at boot and shut down but like to see it is working. Also it is impressive to watch. ;D
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I guess I read on Facebook a suggestion to add Compiz because I don't see it here on the forum. I personally don't like all the fancy stuff it does and memory it uses so I would just uninstall it. If advanced users want it why not just add it as and option in Lite Software but not be installed by default.
Compiz is already installed, theres no need to add it. It's the Compiz Manager people are asking for.
I would also like a couple changes in Lite Tweaks. Color coding actions (safe = green and caution = red).
This has been requested in the past (can't remember who the forum member was). We're unable to do this with the Zenity code.
Also an option to remove the boot splash not just restore it. I removed it with Grub Customizer. I don't understand much of what the text say my computer is doing at boot and shut down but like to see it is working. Also it is impressive to watch. ;D
That's something that is likely to stay as a user choice, as we're targeting Windows users, this kind of mod is not recommended and would be more of a niche request. Cheers :)
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Compiz is already installed, theres no need to add it. It's the Compiz Manager people are asking for.
??? I must have uninstalled it and forgot.
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Would very much like to use either mouse or keyboard to select login user icon.
P.S.@paul1149 - For larger mouse pointer size, go to Settings/Mouse and Touchpad/Theme/Size (and increase or decrease mouse/cursor size as needed). LL2.4
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* Jerry may be opposed to this, but here it goes--> Full UEFI support. (someday....)
1- Have package- xfce4- goodies AND xfce4-artwork installed as part of the base system.
2- Ability to have Persistance when installed to USB drive by default.
3- Ability to install Nvidia/Optimus on its own after install, say a script or something. and a way to revert if it fails. I think it would make things much easier, provided it works correctly :)
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Hello!
The ability to select/deselect updates, like Ubuntu's Software Updater, would be nice...
73 DE N4RPS
Rob
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The Log Out button isn't obvious to new users. I'd like to suggest a "Ctrl-Alt-Delete" shortcut to the "Log Out" options for those new users familiar with Windows.
Other suggestions would be to add the "Turn Off Computer" choice to the "System" or "Favorites" Whisker Menu Categories.
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The Log Out button isn't obvious to new users. I'd like to suggest a "Ctrl-Alt-Delete" shortcut to the "Log Out" options for those new users familiar with Windows.
Other suggestions would be to add the "Turn Off Computer" choice to the "System" or "Favorites" Whisker Menu Categories.
Have you set a default web browser yet? If not, use Lite Tweaks to do this.
Sent from my Nexus 6 running Android M
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I have done that. I set it to Chromium using the Lite Tweaks.
Screenshot:
http://imgur.com/b6N66as
But shouldn't your reply be in the feed for the Linux Lite Control Center?
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Oops, damn phones :)
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Hello!
You can assign a keystroke sequence to call xfce4-session-logout, but I just created a shortcut on the right side of the panel, like this...
(http://i.imgur.com/djfqq91.png)
If you want this as a wallpaper, here it is: http://imgur.com/GXByl2p (http://imgur.com/GXByl2p)
73 DE N4RPS
Rob
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I would like to see the Ubuntu Fonts added to Linux Lite 2.6.
http://font.ubuntu.com/
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I would like to see the Ubuntu Fonts added to Linux Lite 2.6.
http://font.ubuntu.com/
I knew there was something missing in the fonts. Would very much like that.
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I was just on my friend's machine that I put LL on. It seems the Welcome screen is not keyboard responsive? If so that would be a nice addition. Lots of times I get into hardware snafus. Thanks.
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I was just on my friend's machine that I put LL on. It seems the Welcome screen is not keyboard responsive? If so that would be a nice addition. Lots of times I get into hardware snafus. Thanks.
Not responsive in what regard? It ignores all input, or doesnt have focus?
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It ignored the Enter, Tab, and arrow keys. I could do nothing with it.
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It ignored the Enter, Tab, and arrow keys. I could do nothing with it.
Hitting tab multiple times and the enter key SHOULD to open/use the options. I'am not able to duplicate this issue at all. Can you try to hit tab 5 times then press enter. It may be that your not able to see any highlight. It was never ment to be keyboard driven sadly.
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Even if I couldn't see the highlight, the Enter key should have activated the focused control, but didn't. But I don't want to distract this thread so I'll let this lie for now. Thanks for your input.
Paul
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The Log Out button isn't obvious to new users. I'd like to suggest a "Ctrl-Alt-Delete" shortcut to the "Log Out" options for those new users familiar with Windows.
Thats totally jerrys call, but it wouldn't be hard to add a shortcut to show the logout menu.
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@shaggytwodope
I've learned to start doing that for my Linux Lite inductees. I've also started adding the "Turn Off Computer" menu option to the Favorites category, just in case.
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Hello!
Is there any way to incorporate the Bluetooth fixes into the 2.6 LiveCD and 2.6 installs? Having to patch it every time I do an install is beginning to wear on me.
This is something EVERYONE who wants Bluetooth in Ubuntu to work for them will need to do to get it. Unless Ubuntu or one of the other OSes gets around to fixing this first, Linux Lite 2.6 would be the only Ubuntu-based OS (AFAIK) with Bluetooth support out of the box...
73 DE N4RPS
Rob
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Hello!
Is there any way to incorporate the Bluetooth fixes into the 2.6 LiveCD and 2.6 installs? Having to patch it every time I do an install is beginning to wear on me.
This is something EVERYONE who wants Bluetooth in Ubuntu to work for them will need to do to get it. Unless Ubuntu or one of the other OSes gets around to fixing this first, Linux Lite 2.6 would be the only Ubuntu-based OS (AFAIK) with Bluetooth support out of the box...
73 DE N4RPS
Rob
Can you explain what fixes need to be done? And show me what the fixes need to be. Either here or via email would be fine. (I'm off to bed as of the post, but I'll look into it for sure in the morning.) Any info you can give me on this issue tho would be great.
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Hello!
Can you explain what fixes need to be done? And show me what the fixes need to be. Either here or via email would be fine. (I'm off to bed as of the post, but I'll look into it for sure in the morning.) Any info you can give me on this issue tho would be great.
It's posted here: https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/network/%28solved%29-enabling-full-bluetooth-support-in-linux-lite/ (https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/network/%28solved%29-enabling-full-bluetooth-support-in-linux-lite/)
Even if this is added to 2.6, I'd still like to leave the thread for it intact, as it also helps those using other forms of Ubuntu besides LL..
73 DE N4RPS
Rob
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If there's one thing I would concentrate on, it would be making the installer absolutely bulletproof. I think the installer is already very good, yet I had problems with each of my two installs. One was a mess about which partition actually would be the target of the install. I could have deleted the old Windows partitions first and avoided the uncertainty, but that shouldn't be necessary, or at least should be mentioned during the install, and a summary screen of exactly what the installer is going to do before you sign on the dotted line is a must.
On the second install I had video problems, whereby the display was divided into four columns and the welcome screen was about 4 times as large as the screen (14" laptop). I had to search the Web to find the nomodeset flag to add to advanced boot options, which solved the problem.
There should at least be a built-in help page on the installer to help the user know about these options if something goes wrong or if there is confusion. He should know exactly what's happening without searching the Web.
The installer has already come a long way, but especially if you're targeting new converts from Windows, and your goal is to provide them with a turnkey alternative, it really is important to make the installer failsafe.
Blessings,
Paul
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A gui for configuring multiple screen would be really nice. something simple like this:
(https://silverwav.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/screen-layout-editor_020.png%3Fw%3D700)
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@UltraCookie If you look in the help manual under "Hardware" you will see a topic called "Dual Monitor Setup Instructions" it explains how to do this with the display setting manager located at menu>settings>display.
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Ya I know how that works. Problem is with the alignment of the monitor. Lite automatically aligns the top border of the two screens. If I want the bottom borders to align I have to go into the settings editor. And since I often switch between the second monitor at work and at home it messes up the settings a lot and I have to fiddle with the settings each time before I can work again.
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Suggestion
How about adding Xfce Mail Watch to Linux Lite.
Here's a link to it explaining what it is:
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-mailwatch-plugin (http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-mailwatch-plugin)
I use it with Thunderbird, which already comes with Linux Lite.
It works well and it's really useful.
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Suggestion
How about adding Xfce Mail Watch to Linux Lite.
Here's a link to it explaining what it is:
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-mailwatch-plugin (http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-mailwatch-plugin)
I use it with Thunderbird, which already comes with Linux Lite.
It works well and it's really useful.
Tried it but i can't get it to work with gmail. My other email works fine but it keeps telling me my username or password is wrong for gmail. Both checked and both correct.
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@TMG1961,
If you're using two-factor authentication with Gmail, I think you need to use their "application specific password" with email clients like Thunderbird. This link might help: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1173270?hl=en.
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@TMG1961,
If you're using two-factor authentication with Gmail, I think you need to use their "application specific password" with email clients like Thunderbird. This link might help: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1173270?hl=en.
thanks, will have a look into that laters
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Tried it but i can't get it to work with gmail. My other email works fine but it keeps telling me my username or password is wrong for gmail. Both checked and both correct.
I use Gmail and it works just fine, so you might be doing something wrong.
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I still havent been able to get gmail working, keeps telling me that password or username is wrong. Not using two-factor authentication with gmail, just username and password. When i use them on the website it works but it doesnt with mail watch. My other emailadress works fine with it.
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At this point, you two should perhaps either pm each other, or start a new thread for this issue so as not to go to much more off topic in this 2.6 Suggestion thread. Thank you :)
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sorry Jerry.
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All good buddy :)
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Hi Jerry !
I think it could be a "booster" (perhaps for us older gnome users), if you could enable DUAL PANES in coming soon LL 2.6 (using it right now, so far grand).
I suggest either :
a. THUNAR file manager (default) with dual pane (F3 on/off) function.
or
b. Include also NEMO file manager aside THUNAR so that purists don't get annoyed.
I have found instructions on how to enable dual pane on THUNAR, but as stated by author, its an elementary tweak ( http://www.webupd8.org/2014/11/split-view-patch-available-for-thunar.html ). Works fine but not quite like Nautilus ... mouse right button functions. Sorry I'm no programmer to fix something your team could test.
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4hAT9Z1dcVkOGt1ekUweFZEc2s/view?usp=sharing)
( Snapshot ==> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4hAT9Z1dcVkOGt1ekUweFZEc2s/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4hAT9Z1dcVkOGt1ekUweFZEc2s/view?usp=sharing) )
Looking forward to your thoughts and feedback.
Regards, Cirimax
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Dual panes is not something we would look at. This distro is aimed at Windows folk new to linux. Therefore it must be familiar and intuitive. The kind of modification you suggest would be better implemented by those who want/need it. Thank you though :)
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Hey...
1) How about shipping by default some Firewall GUI (dunno which one, it's up to you. Maybe even enable it by default, if it is good idea).
2) Also THEME CONFIGURATION (gtk-theme-config), not necessary though.
3) Also some LightDM GUI settings manager, and Plymouth GUI settings manager (if they exist). I know there's a one for LightDM GTK+
Or I would replace lightdm-webkit-greeter with lightdm-gtk-greeter. Why? Webkit-greeter causes black screen for some users, this bug was reported years ago, not fixed...
https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-webkit-greeter/+bug/1154065
Not sure how many users are affected though. Would be useless if this is a rare bug. But personally, I had to install lightdm-gtk-greeter and use IT instead of webkit.
4) Also, I would add search button / space in Thunar if it is possible. (to search file / folder in the current window, like in Ubuntu for example). It's annoying to switch to catfish for this simple task, or am I missing something?
5) And how could I forget this? Automatic updates! (At least the security updates).
6) Split screen for Thunar / dual window or whatever you call it. But I guess it's up to the Thunar developers.
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1) How about shipping by default some Firewall GUI (dunno which one, it's up to you. Maybe even enable it by default, if it is good idea).
2) Also THEME CONFIGURATION (gtk-theme-config), not necessary though.
3) Also some LightDM GUI settings manager, and Plymouth GUI settings manager (if they exist). I know there's a one for LightDM GTK+
Or I would replace lightdm-webkit-greeter with lightdm-gtk-greeter. Why? Webkit-greeter causes black screen for some users, this bug was reported years ago, not fixed...
https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-webkit-greeter/+bug/1154065 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-webkit-greeter/+bug/1154065)
Not sure how many users are affected though. Would be useless if this is a rare bug. But personally, I had to install lightdm-gtk-greeter and use IT instead of webkit.
4) Also, I would add search button / space in Thunar if it is possible. (to search file / folder in the current window, like in Ubuntu for example). It's annoying to switch to catfish for this simple task, or am I missing something?
5) And how could I forget this? Automatic updates! (At least the security updates).
6) Split screen for Thunar / dual window or whatever you call it. But I guess it's up to the Thunar developers.
1. I like that idea, consider it done.
2. Not completely necessary as the Help Manual guides users on that already. Perhaps in the future we can look at software that makes this process easier.
3. This distros is for newbies to linux, I don't want them messing in anything to do with the boot up or login processes. lightdm-webkit-greeter has a bug at the moment (search forums to see thread on it) and will most likely be dropped in Series 3.
4. Not available currently. I like this idea, you should suggest it to the Thunar devs.
5. We have that in development.
6. Again, Thunar devs.
Thank you Zead.
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@Jerry:
You are welcome. I really love Linux Lite. Keep up the good work.
I wanted to post some feedback here, But I've remembed that you have a feedback site somewhere ;)
I will post it there.
Btw this forum runs very slow for me... I don't know what it is, but it loads longer than other websites. (I'm not talking about connection speed, but it always freezes for a 7~ seconds when a new forums site loads.
Also Jerry... I would install by default 3 meta packages related to kernels (linux-image-generic and the other 2), so the updater can report them to update(they are being held back all the time). For SECURITY reasons. I bet most users stay on 3.13.0-23 (or whatever is Linux Lite's default). I have a 3.13.0-61. Tons of security fixes.
I would make them not being held back, since you want the system for total newbies, they won't be able all to install it manually. Security is important.
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I had mentioned this on another thread
Please Jerry change the boot splash or remove the feather logo
look at the boot splash of windows 7 when setting up,just a black screen and the glooming progress bar :)
I have managed to change mine in my system but it is quite hard for new comers
Rhythmbox is a must for me in any Linux Distro for the rest I can live with or without
Thank You!
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I had mentioned this on another thread
Please Jerry change the boot splash or remove the feather logo
look at the boot splash of windows 7 when setting up,just a black screen and the glooming progress bar :)
I have managed to change mine in my system but it is quite hard for new comers
Rhythmbox is a must for me in any Linux Distro for the rest I can live with or without
Thank You!
I did see your suggestion on boot splash. This is something that is not widely complained about, so it will stay as is.
Music player - the community was asked to vote on this a while back, they chose Clementine. Cheers :)
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I concur with Jerry.
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I had mentioned this on another thread
Please Jerry change the boot splash or remove the feather logo
look at the boot splash of windows 7 when setting up,just a black screen and the glooming progress bar :)
I have managed to change mine in my system but it is quite hard for new comers
Rhythmbox is a must for me in any Linux Distro for the rest I can live with or without
Thank You!
I did see your suggestion on boot splash. This is something that is not widely complained about, so it will stay as is.
Music player - the community was asked to vote on this a while back, they chose Clementine. Cheers :)
I've edited my last post, please read the things about the kernels, I think it's very important.
And yes, I know there is a possible regression or something, but users can switch back to previous kernel. And if something worse happens, backing up data is important anyway, drive failure etc...
It won't update automatically anyway, but users will at least know that they have a kernel update pending. It is being held back. It's up to you if you keep it being held back, or make it automatic. I don't think you can ruin anything by installing kernel meta packages by default. It won't update you to newer kernel like 3.16. But update your existing kernel (3.13).
I wouldn't even know about this, but I remembered that Ubuntu updates your kernels automatically, and my Linux Lite kernel wasn't updating, then I've found out I have to install these meta packages to get at least notification about kernel needing an update.
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I did see your suggestion on boot splash. This is something that is not widely complained about, so it will stay as is. ...
Could we have an option to remove the boot splash in Linux Tweaks? I installed Grub Customizer to not use it. I am not brave enough to uninstall Plymouth (if that is the correct program) with Synaptic. I don't understand what all the text means during the boot but I like watching it. (I am easily entertained.) ::)
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@Coastie, we generally only implement tools that are widely used, removing boot splash is more of a niche task.
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OK, Jerry. I saw "Restore the boot splash in Linux Lite" in Lite Tweaks. I have no clue as how it works so thought it could also remove the boot splash.
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I really like Pinta as a simple image editor. It is basically an open source MS Paint and available in Synaptic. GIMP has a steep learning curve.
http://pinta-project.com/releases (http://pinta-project.com/releases)
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... This distros is for newbies to linux ...
Several times, I have had to be reminded of this too. But Jerry, I think you are being too modest about how great this distro and forum are. I suggest adding something to the effect: Linux Lite is for newbies to Linux and beyond. It is great distro to build on and tweak to make it your own for all levels of users with the help from you and this forum! :)
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this may be getting 'pickie' as I can set this up myself...but wondered bout a different office suite thats more graphics oriented rather than with words...
calligra - is an office suit. has krita for graphics..and is in some ways more capible than gimp.
though it may not have the MSword compatibiliy that most word smiths desire.
..and Gimp is sort of like a linux standard..so I guess is expected by most.
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calligra - is an office suit. has krita for graphics..and is in some ways more capible than gimp.
Calligra require KDE dependencies?
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Calligra require KDE dependencies?
And as such, would not be included in LL that uses the XFCE environment. Calligra is considered a user preference in this context.
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Ok - fair enough.
Have been using it in LinuxLite.....and still trying it out.(though I should be using a more grunty PC than a netbook.) Just wondered if it had been considered as an alternative as the graphics abilities seem rather good....though gimp probably meets most requirements any way.
yep - guess it is more of a 'user preference'.
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Hi Jerry !
a quick feedback on 2.6 x64bit : super, been thrashing at it, rock solid as usual.
I would like to suggest the following additional tools as default on new release, if these are not considered as a customisation or personl choices of course :
Image viewers
replace default with either
a. gThumb or
b. Shotwell.
Don't know which is less invasive on chosen "architecture". However I'm am using both and they both seem super fast and very stable.
Multimedia
c. Replace GIMP with PINTA. IMHO, much better for most people, not the Graphic Designers of course.
d. Audacious as default audio player. ( I suspect this has been already discussed in other threads )
e. Include Selene Media Encoder for full encorder management. Great diagnostic tool to check the codecs are all there and which are missing.
f. Include Imagination for building photo slideshows. I don't seem to have seen anything of the kind onboard.
I also decided to jump to xfce 4.12, so I upgraded from 4.10 ... seems even better with kernel 3.13.0.61 onboard !
I dont have a super computer ( a pentium dual core with 8gb ram ) and its purring like a cat.
Looking forwards to your feedback and insights.
Ad majora, Cirimax
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Image viewer - I am considering this, but any major changes to Series software is likely to occur in the following Series. Something with a few more options never hurts.
Gimp vs Pinta - this comes up more and more. I like and use Pinta myself however it lacks the other features we need in a more detailed image editor.
Auducious - the community voted on this a while ago, it's been decided to provide Clementine. Search the forums to see the thread.
Codecs - Restricted Extras takes care of this.
Imagination - more of a niche request, not something we consider a widely used, daily tool.
XFCE 4.12 - been covered many times, we would never include a major upgrade within a series of the DE, with so many different set ups out there, it's just to risky and theres to many variables at play.
Thank you Cirimax :)
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Is there a way to include word search into Thunar by default, as an addition to catfish? Thanks.
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https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/tutorials/right-click-find-files-in-thunar/
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Sorry Jerry , does not the above procedure only find files with the file name including the word in question? What I was trying to explain was, I am looking for a word or phrase that is in a document or pdf etc. that is filed in my system somewhere - where it is I have forgotten or misfiled that document/pdf ; I am trying to find it. When using windows I could search the whole of the "drive" for that word or phrase and all relevant documents containing that word or phrase would appear, which I could then trawl through etc. to find the exact document I needed..
As I understand it, catfish will only locate a filename containing a specific word in the filename?? Am I correct? I understand that Terminal can be used to locate a specific word , but I was hoping for an "easier" non terminal use route??
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To newtusmaximus,
Someone else had a similar question and they experienced success by installing the software package "Recoll."
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@ newtusmaximus
In the old MS search world it had 2 fields,
1 for find file with "...." in it's name, and another option find file(s) "containing text" which is what recoll does
It's in Menu > System > Install/Remove Software (synaptic) search recoll but it is quite old. 1.17....
There is a Ubuntu PPA (http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/download.html#packages) for recoll 1.20
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Thank you gentlemen. Loaded Recoll 1.17 - Just the job :) One less task to full migration!!
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@ Jerry(LL Creator)
Recoll, It might be nice to addition into LL Software Centre..??,
nice compliment to Find File(Catfish) it would give a Win XP like feel/option..??
Just a thought
On a seperate note,
I'm really struggling, after constant daily use over the past 12 months, I'm finding it hard to find fault :) :) :)
If there was one thing, which I thinks already been raised, "Auto Check for Updates" and "Apply"
I'm fortunate, though some may say "sad" I have LL on 5 pc's, and I have to remember to check them all.
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---Offensive approach to user error and technical support---
Something that is somewhat overlooked at times in pursuit of the main nuts and bolts is excellent tutorials and guides. Linux Lite is one of the best at these from my experience. I am fairly new to linux in general but it was Lite that gave me the encouragement I needed to go all in with linux. The simplicity of the distro COUPLED with the tutorial/manual was so welcome in the world of distribution chaos. Having a great simple "windows user" friendly disto is awesome and for a new user to not have to figure out the linux lingo, distribution methods, flavors, compatibility problems, terminal commands, etc. etc. etc. (the main things that make up the linux learning curve) but have a guide that is custom made for their distro (linux lite) makes all the difference in the world.
Something I think the linux community as a whole sometimes understands but needs to be more pre-eminent in is that "friendliness is king".
Here is why I think effort should be put into this area:
-It is easier to make a guide to show someone how to do "random thing in linux" then to code it into the main release.
-You can reach almost every users needs without spending the time coding it all. (Yes still annoying being customer service but I think it should be treated offensively instead of defensively)
obviously you start with most important things first. I am thinking of some kind of importance "tree" if you will.
The Roots are linux roots more importantly Linux Lites Roots - This is the part most people don't see and ex windows users don't need to know about at all in the beginning.
The Trunk is what makes it into the Linux Lite Releases. These are the obvious and simple parts that hold up everything else. You see it right away. It is the largest most in your face component.
The Limbs are the built in Linux Lites extras. The top 20 or so most commonly requested and used additions that are oh so conveniently just a click away! As some grow bigger they demand inclusion into the release.
at this point we have (hopefully) catered to 80-90% of our followers. wonderful!
Branches are just outside of this. Maybe a major program used in other linux distros that didn't make the easy install list so you have to use the other slightly more clicks installer or heaven forbid the terminal! Maybe theme changes, personal layout preference, different default apps, etc.
Twigs are nitty gritty. twigs involve years of know how and a post to a forum for guidance. Most definitely twigs involve terminal. But even this isn't bad with a guide whether the guide is a person or a manual.
Leaves.....come on now. I will leave that alone.
as the tree grows twigs can become branches which can become limbs. even the trunk can get bigger (but lets avoid becoming a bloated windows monstrosity that is all trunk)
thinking offensively in this area does nothing but benefit everyone involved.
if it is organized well people can vote on what grows and what gets pruned.
I think Linux Lite is excelling already at the trunk and limbs parts. Most distros are in their own unique ways. What I am suggesting is that the next step be taken to conquer the branches. I don't think ANY linux distro has done this well yet. The focus always seems to stop with limbs. I think if you can conquer the branches(which I do see as more community tweaking and less developer focussed) this could explode. I think Linux Lite is THE distro to make this happen.
No number of developers will EVER be able to fix everyone's twigs. There needs to be a better system of teaching everyone to mind there own.
Organizing and curating this community effort almost as aggressively as the main project would do wonders for the branches.
I know I ramble. I am still new. I sit in the midst of newish user experience and future ideals and voice my opinions. Like all linux users I want to see it succeed and I put forth this as one possibility. What are you thoughts? I feel on the verge of loony and I am sure my analogy breaks down horribly in many ways.
What ways can we improve the power, interactiveness and reach of the Help Manual??
When someone has a questions that gets answered in a forum how does that "twig" get added to the "tree of friendly convenience"??
Where can we see this "tree" grow and get more arborists involved??
Who are the arborists going to be??
Why am I still using the tree analogy??
lets turn this -----------------------
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into this ------------------------
(http://173.83.136.222/images/LightInTree.jpg)
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Hello gistofit, thank you for taking the time to create this post. There is some carefully, well thought out feedback here.
One of the most important aspects that sets us apart from most other 'distros' is that we deliberately target Windows users. This is something that I haven't seen occur in the linux community in great numbers. Of course, linux folk are more than welcome to try and or use LL on their day to day machine, but everything that we do, we gear towards Windows folk. At this point I need to say that we are still some way from reaching that point as completely as a linux based operating system could hope to, but we will never lose focus on that, I can promise you.
If we stay with the tree analogy, then I must say that the bigger a tree gets, the more nutrients it will need. We are a small organization made up of incredible volunteers, generous with their free time.
Documentation was a strong focus from the day one. If you're going to target Windows folk, who are used to concise, well explained in layman's terms instructions, you better do it right. We I think, are on the right track.
I have so many ideas about how to make an OS easier to use. I record these ideas for future use through a variety of mediums, so that these ideas are never lost.
We have always been open to, and to a large extent, reliant on the community to provide useful feedback. When an organization listens to it's users, it creates a product that people want to use. It's how they would want things to be.
For us to reach the 'branches' stage we need more nutrients (people). Then, we can release and properly and effectively support and maintain those useful tools. When we need help with software, we pay developers to contribute via the donations we receive.
The way I see things as they currently are, we must continue to stay focused on our core goals without distraction or the temptation to do to much. This is a time game, and I'm extremely patient. We will reach our goal. We will water the tree each day, and when the time is right, it will bear fruit, for all.