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Title: Issues I have come across thus far installing and using Linux Lite as a new user
Post by: MCReaves on April 05, 2021, 05:04:13 PM
First off, hello. I am new to Linux Lite but not new to Linux in general. This post is my first and is aimed at bringing attention to little issues I have spotted during multiple installations of and the use of Linux Lite. I might alter this post if/when I find other issues or have other suggestions.

* (issue/oversight?) There is no "python" command, only python2. Scripts looking for "python" fail due to this. One example is youtube-dl.
* (suggestion) ffmpeg is not install by default. Using youtube-dl as another example, it needs it.
* (issue/usability) The grub boot menu after you hit "e" to edit is very difficult to impossible to read due to the feather logo. Redoing the boot design might be a good idea for usability.
* (issue) Ctrl+C doesn't cancel filesystem checks when booting from USB despite it saying it will.
* (issue/annoyance) Right before the login prompt when starting, the audio "pops". This pop also happens right before playing videos in a browser, every video. I have not verified if it happens with videos from the hard drive.
* (suggestion) I came from MX Linux and I found their "quick system info" tool to be very useful. When ran, it would gather all the needed system info, redact private bits, format the output to be able to be pasted right into a forum post, and copy it to the clipboard all without the user dealing with it. Something similar might be useful for Linux Lite.

See attachment for hardware information.


EDIT: I found the "quick system info" tool that MX uses and it is a bash script.
https://pastebin.com/raw/X3FEDqbe
Title: Re: Issues I have come across thus far installing and using Linux Lite as a new user
Post by: Moltke on April 06, 2021, 08:55:48 AM
First off, hello. I am new to Linux Lite but not new to Linux in general. This post is my first and is aimed at bringing attention to little issues I have spotted during multiple installations of and the use of Linux Lite. I might alter this post if/when I find other issues or have other suggestions.

* (issue/oversight?) There is no "python" command, only python2. Scripts looking for "python" fail due to this. One example is youtube-dl.
* (suggestion) ffmpeg is not install by default. Using youtube-dl as another example, it needs it.
* (issue/usability) The grub boot menu after you hit "e" to edit is very difficult to impossible to read due to the feather logo. Redoing the boot design might be a good idea for usability.
* (issue) Ctrl+C doesn't cancel filesystem checks when booting from USB despite it saying it will.
* (issue/annoyance) Right before the login prompt when starting, the audio "pops". This pop also happens right before playing videos in a browser, every video. I have not verified if it happens with videos from the hard drive.
* (suggestion) I came from MX Linux and I found their "quick system info" tool to be very useful. When ran, it would gather all the needed system info, redact private bits, format the output to be able to be pasted right into a forum post, and copy it to the clipboard all without the user dealing with it. Something similar might be useful for Linux Lite.

See attachment for hardware information.


EDIT: I found the "quick system info" tool that MX uses and it is a bash script.
https://pastebin.com/raw/X3FEDqbe
What version of Linux Lite?
1. There is no python command anywhere since python2 reached EOL, people should use now python3 instead when running .py files.
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$ python3 my_python.py2. FFmpeg is installed by default. What version of youtube-dl were you trying? Try this one https://youtube-dl.org/
3. Linux Lite ships with inxi and system info tools, one is a CLI tool you can run from the terminal to gather system info, and the other a GUI tool you can access in whisker menu.

About the ctlr+c, the "e" thing and the "pop" sound not sure.
Title: Re: Issues I have come across thus far installing and using Linux Lite as a new user
Post by: MCReaves on April 06, 2021, 10:43:11 AM
I'm using Linux Lite 5.4.

(https://i.ibb.co/x5Tr759/ytdl.png) (https://ibb.co/Th3Nghj)

(https://i.ibb.co/z7Xj0FP/ffmpeg.png) (https://ibb.co/Jyv0Mqr)

(https://i.ibb.co/Cn6BT84/ffmpeg2.png) (https://ibb.co/LCrS2RB)
Title: Re: Issues I have come across thus far installing and using Linux Lite as a new user
Post by: Moltke on April 06, 2021, 11:06:49 AM
Ah, that's weird. I remember  using FFmpeg to cut some videos, so I thought it was installed by default, perhaps I installed and forgot about that.  But that's weird because LL has VLC, which needs FFmpeg too ... Did you upgrade from 5.2 or use 5.4 .iso to install?
Title: Re: Issues I have come across thus far installing and using Linux Lite as a new user
Post by: MCReaves on April 06, 2021, 11:29:02 AM
Fresh install via 5.4 iso. I've only been using Linux Lite for a few days at most.
Title: Re: Issues I have come across thus far installing and using Linux Lite as a new user
Post by: firenice03 on April 06, 2021, 02:14:43 PM
@MCReaves

If I recall ....
FFMPEG is installable as part of the RESTRICTED EXTRAS with in LITE SOFTWARE...

Lite Software - Install - Choose Restricted Extras and/or what else you like :)

Lite Software contains a listing of those more often installed...
Title: Re: Issues I have come across thus far installing and using Linux Lite as a new user
Post by: Jerry on April 06, 2021, 07:32:55 PM
Default package list ootb - https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lite&pkglist=true&version=5.4#pkglist
Title: Re: Issues I have come across thus far installing and using Linux Lite as a new user
Post by: Jerry on April 06, 2021, 07:51:04 PM
First off, hello. I am new to Linux Lite but not new to Linux in general. This post is my first and is aimed at bringing attention to little issues I have spotted during multiple installations of and the use of Linux Lite. I might alter this post if/when I find other issues or have other suggestions.

* (issue/oversight?) There is no "python" command, only python2. Scripts looking for "python" fail due to this. One example is youtube-dl.


Older Pythons are no longer in use (known by those who use linux regularly) People use 'python3' now.


* (suggestion) ffmpeg is not install by default. Using youtube-dl as another example, it needs it.


We need to be very careful about what we include. It's too easy to spill over in size with every suggestion we get and avoid becoming 'Linux Heavy'. Each program must meet several criteria including mass appeal. ffmpeg is not required by most who use LL.


* (issue/usability) The grub boot menu after you hit "e" to edit is very difficult to impossible to read due to the feather logo. Redoing the boot design might be a good idea for usability.


We'll see if more people report about this.


* (issue) Ctrl+C doesn't cancel filesystem checks when booting from USB despite it saying it will.


It does, you have to be very quick because once it gets to the filesystem.squashfs file, you can't cancel right in the middle of a file scan.


* (issue/annoyance) Right before the login prompt when starting, the audio "pops". This pop also happens right before playing videos in a browser, every video. I have not verified if it happens with videos from the hard drive.


That issue will be related specifically to your hardware. You should start a separate threads in the appropriate forum section for that.


* (suggestion) I came from MX Linux and I found their "quick system info" tool to be very useful. When ran, it would gather all the needed system info, redact private bits, format the output to be able to be pasted right into a forum post, and copy it to the clipboard all without the user dealing with it. Something similar might be useful for Linux Lite.


Lite System Report, Lite Info (for the web).

Title: Re: Issues I have come across thus far installing and using Linux Lite as a new user
Post by: Jerry on April 08, 2021, 03:51:20 AM
Further to this, I will set Python3 as the default in 5.6 going forward.

To set:

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sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python python /usr/bin/python3 10