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General => Suggestions and Feedback => Topic started by: AndyOpie150 on June 24, 2014, 10:20:04 AM
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A 32bit version with a non-pae kernel would be really helpful for those with older low resource machines.
I know, I make to many suggestions. I'm just thinking about all those who are poor or living on a fixed income who can't afford to buy a new computer, who may not even have a computer had it not been given them from someone who could afford a new computer.
Now days you need a computer, there is no getting around it.
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Hi AndyOpie150. If my memory is correct LL 108/32 installs as non-pae but it can be added after install with one of the Install Additional Software choices (menu>system>install additional software). I'm using LL 108/64 (3.8 kernel, includes pae) on my Dell Latitude E6500 and it runs great.
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A 32bit version with a non-pae kernel would be really helpful for those with older low resource machines.
I don't know if this applies to all distros based on Ubuntu 14.04 or not, but if you have a non-PAE computer to test this on maybe you could try it and report back to let us know if it works. (I'd be curious to know for future reference myself.) Have a look near the bottom of this page of release notes for LinuxMint 17, under heading "Booting with non-PAE CPUs": http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_qiana_cinnamon.php (http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_qiana_cinnamon.php). It has been confirmed in the Mint forums by users that this method works for them. If this also applies to Linux Lite (I suspect it does, but don't have a machine to test), then this is an easy solution.
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...All Ubuntu 32bit kernels these days ship with PAE, we will not be creating any more PAE builds, it's time to move on.
1.0.8 did unfortunately ship with a PAE kernel, we later found out that all Ubuntu 32bit kernels from 12.04 onwards shipped with PAE :( The only Linux Lite to ever ship a non-pae was this one - http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxlite/files/1.0.0/beta2_nonpae/ old, but still supported until 2017.
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Thanks to all for the info.
Valtam: Do you think a 32bit non-pae version could ever be a posibility in an upcoming release?
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Thanks to all for the info.
Valtam: Do you think a 32bit non-pae version could ever be a posibility in an upcoming release?
My quote from post #3 is clear on that question. Cheers.
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Sorry. My brain is just not working right.
All Ubuntu 32bit kernels these days ship with PAE, we will not be creating any more PAE builds, it's time to move on.
Does this mean no more 32bit versions, or that all 32bit versions will have non-pae kernels?
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It means no more releases with a non-pae option.
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Oh well. The only reason this distro offered any usability for my application was if it could be in a non-pae kernel version.
I guess older machines just aren't worthy. A lot of people loose out. I guess I'll just stick to Bodhi as the only good distro for low resource machines.
EDIT: It does see to be working great with my SONY VAIO all in one desktop with a single core 2.8GHz Pentium4 and 1GB of RAM, so I can at least use it for that sort of setup. Hmm? I could always upgrade the RAM on their machines when I can afford to.
Let them use my desktop while I'm working on theirs. Sounds like a plan, Stan.
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Hello!
Canonical, the developers of the Ubuntu kernel, are the ones behind phasing out non-PAE support. However, if you have a Pentium-M CPU, you can install or run the Live CD using the 'forcepae' option.
I don't know much about Bodhi, but unless they're writing their own kernel (they aren't), once THEY go to the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS kernel (which will be soon), THEY won't be supporting non-PAE anymore, either...
73 DE N4RPS
Rob
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...All Ubuntu 32bit kernels these days ship with PAE, we will not be creating any more PAE builds, it's time to move on.
1.0.8 did unfortunately ship with a PAE kernel, we later found out that all Ubuntu 32bit kernels from 12.04 onwards shipped with PAE :( The only Linux Lite to ever ship a non-pae was this one - http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxlite/files/1.0.0/beta2_nonpae/ old, but still supported until 2017.
Thanks for this link. Just what I needed for my old laptop with Pentium M. Still good til 2017.
Cactusneedle in AZ, USA