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Re: on waking from suspend: panel text missing etc.
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2018, 03:57:38 PM »
 

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Session interruption instantly hungs the system in my case, including the screen lock, but maybe in particular this is the screen lock. The system seems to work in the background, knowing by the web-browser output heard in the speakers at one time, but the primary - and only - display is completely stuck. Hard reset necessary. This may be a bigger issue than it seems, as if when someone for example watches a movie and the system goes to sleep, to never be able to continue current session. Immersion break complete.

Your demons may be different ones to mine, but the cause just might be similar. I'm not knowledgeable re the finer points of code, so I'll just say what I did.

(and by the way in my case the browsers still worked ok, having their own font).

What I figured was that as the problem was always at the point of waking maybe there was some clash of functions, or possibly too much going on for my hardware to handle.

First: I used have SD card in place and had Backups utility set to automatically backup daily. So on waking here were two extra routines going on - SD drive reading and Backup utility checking to see if backup had already happened today.
I disabled the latter utility (to manual) and removed the SD.  I did get an improvement, but another crash after 9 days.

Second: I looked for whatever else was happening at wake-up - Wifi.  Both wifi (already selected) and its connecting to already running hotspot - so after that I always de-select Enable Wifi (from the system tray on the Panel) then Suspend (always selecting from Logout menu on Panel).
After waking I then Enable Wifi.

I have now 4 weeks with only one crash - that happened when I woke just about 4 mins after Suspend - my guess was that there was still things going on in the background so soon after Suspend, so now I wait much longer.

It is of course all guesswork, but it does seem to have worked for me, and I think does make sense, especially using a generic Linux OS to replace a OEM customised Win 7 OS.

I hope these remedies lead to improvements for you, but play around Settings Manager>Power manager as well.

I've enjoyed using Linux Lite (still 3.8 ) .
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Re: on waking from suspend: panel text missing etc.
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2018, 02:11:15 AM »
 

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I have disabled the screen lock function, the only applying specific power management feature is on closing the lid of the laptop, which simply ought to switch off the display, for the sake of power saving, but for some reason, it still locks the session, despite the function being turned off. It starts to become a nightmare, especially that it is my custom to put the lid down when I am leaving the desk for a while or two. Fortunately, Chromium browser is so kind that it lets to restore the interrupted session. But I do feel sorry for anyone doing productive work, such as writing, video editing and else.
 

Re: on waking from suspend: panel text missing etc.
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2018, 04:03:12 PM »
 

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I use the LogOut menu and select Suspend, which works in a couple of seconds. I leave the lid open.
Last thing in the day I Suspend as above then also close the lid overnight.

I think in terms of Suspend it is not necessarily a good idea to depend on the hardware (e.g. lid closing) to work the same way as the machine did with an installation of Windows, which I assume would be customised to the particular OEM hardware.

Linux Lite works very well, but it comes with its own set of tools to achieve what we want, which I have found quick and easy to get used to. I hope this is helpful.
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Re: on waking from suspend: panel text missing etc.
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2018, 11:36:31 PM »
 

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LinuxLite lives up to what it promises but it is not in a perfect shape yet.

I found my way around the problem omitting the Session Lock feature entirely, which means, I never use password login on wakeup - to me, not a problem, to someone out there, could possibly be.

It is perhaps pretty important to check the "save session for further logins" option in the "Log Out" window of the "Log Out" section, entered via the desktop menu bar.

The laptop is set to enter sleep mode per closing the lid and thusfar it works fine now.

I have just checked switching off the display option per closing of the lid and also it works fine.

Therefore, we apparently have two problem makers: the session lock and the session save features.

EDIT:

It seems that just for the sake of succesfully escaping sleep mode without the screen lock along the way, the "save session" feature is unnecessary.
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Re: on waking from suspend: panel text missing etc.
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2018, 11:59:54 PM »
 

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Re: on waking from suspend: panel text missing etc.
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2018, 06:16:40 AM »
 

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As Jerry says, no OS is perfect, but it's great you have been able to re-set the OS to work satisfactorily for you, not bad for a terrific OS which is free to download and only asks for modest donations from those who can afford it.

I take a philosophical view (this is general, not aimed at this thread's contributors)  - most digital products seem to be mainly sold on "convenience" and speed and big numbers (15 mega what-not assumed to always be better [or of higher social status] than 12, or even 2; phone version 10, when 3 does all I could want...)

Linux gives new life to many old machines which then perform perfectly for the average user, free of charge, whereas the proprietary OS merchants want us to throw the old equipment out.

I hope none of this sounds holier-than-thou sort of lecturing, it's just stuff I feel strongly about, and here is as good a place as any to write about it :) !
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Re: on waking from suspend: panel text missing etc.
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2018, 01:27:30 PM »
 

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Only the free software culture of Linux is a major reason to switch to it. There is an excellent base of programs available for legal open download and share in Linux, the counterparts of which too often are commercial in other kinds of operating systems. These free programs sometimes get translated to other systems, sometimes not, but the root remains, they were designed for Linux and the Linux is spearheading this culture and development, that is why Linux needs to be supported.

What I only miss in Linux are "user-lite" photo editing programs, such as Fotor {Microsoft Store version}, Polarr, InPixio, Afterlight. These home user friendly programs heavily relay on the employment of abundant base of filters, providing near ready effect per a handful of clicks. This is an easy go culture, but it does the job, I have actually edited couple of photos this way, example: link HERE. That was processed with Fotor back in the Windows10 time.

But I have come to Linux to experience the ups and downs of actually using it, as long as it is reasonable. If I came just for the favours, I would have already fallen back.

Today I was thinking a bit about the Microsoft and the WindowsOS culture, how it perfectly fits into nowadays culture of "beware", next to "buy or die". The imperfections of WindowsOS make it a perfect market fuss. There is something constantly going on about it. WindowsOS needs so pushed maintenance that it simply keeps the attention of customers constantly around it, especially that majority of computers sold nowadays have some version of WindowsOS installed by default.

I am uncertain how Linux though would behave if itself it gained some - say - twenty percent of the current home user PC market, perhaps it would be just as fussy as the WindowsOS, which actually was I enough happy with, y'know? But there is historical balance to what is going on. WindowsOS would not survive until today if Linux took the place of it back in the nineties, unless something.
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Re: on waking from suspend: panel text missing etc.
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2018, 02:35:47 PM »
 

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An Update on my original problems, which were on LL 3.8:

I did keep up the practise of not having too much happening on wake-up, ie no flash drives in place, no auto back-up about 3 weeks, with far fewer of those text crashes.

Then 5 weeks ago I upgraded to LL 4.0 & 4.2 and the issue has not returned, so looks to be all right now.
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