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Booting time even after removing VB
« on: May 13, 2019, 10:39:15 AM »
 

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Hello, I have installed (with some help from IT friends) linux lite on an eeebox 1501b and I think the system looks excellent and for what I have tested it is smoother (with pdf and browsing) than Lubuntu 18 on the same machine. BUT, I have only 2 Go RAM and have noticed that it takes about 3 minutes to boot. The boot order is correct (HD first), I have applied to recommendation regarding the removal of Virtualbox and saw no difference. I have tried to change the driver from the generic one to the proprietary one (NVIDIA) but same problem, no difference. Apart from the booting time everything is normally fast.

Thanks for any help! please no-geek here, if explanations are given, make it very detailed! ;)

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Re: Booting time even after removing VB
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2019, 09:01:36 PM »
 

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Open a Terminal and paste the output here of:

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systemd-analyze blame
 

Re: Booting time even after removing VB
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2019, 11:47:33 AM »
 

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Thanks for your answer, here is what I get
systemd-analyze blame

systemd-analyze blame
    2min 12.935s vboxadd.service
     2min 7.975s plymouth-quit-wait.service
    1min 30.231s nmbd.service
         19.391s dev-sda1.device
         18.649s ufw.service
         12.896s udisks2.service
         12.876s networkd-dispatcher.service
         12.328s ModemManager.service
          9.066s accounts-daemon.service
          7.943s systemd-rfkill.service
          7.773s avahi-daemon.service
          7.765s thermald.service
          7.674s console-kit-log-system-start.service
          7.584s gpu-manager.service
          7.421s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
          7.096s pppd-dns.service
          7.079s rsyslog.service
          7.072s ubiquity.service
          6.731s systemd-logind.service
          6.682s apparmor.service
          6.192s NetworkManager.service
          5.279s networking.service
          4.748s upower.service


I can send a sysreport by mail if needed.
 

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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2019, 10:19:02 PM »
 

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I don't know this command as well as Jerry, but I can see that Virtual Box has not been cleanly uninstalled as you suggested.  In fact the first line in your output after the command demonstrates that.  Search the forum for a thread called "Removing Virtual Box".  @Scott has the step by step instructions listed in Reply #1.


https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/installing-linux-lite/removing-virtual-box/
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Re: Booting time even after removing VB
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2019, 02:31:23 AM »
 

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Maybe it's just an "upstream" thing, but I wonder why vbox is in there to begin with.  I don't think most Linux Lite users even use virtualbox.
 

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2019, 02:45:28 AM »
 

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Maybe it's just an "upstream" thing, but I wonder why vbox is in there to begin with.  I don't think most Linux Lite users even use virtualbox.


Explanation - https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/release-announcements/linux-lite-4-0-final-released/
 

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2019, 04:42:23 AM »
 

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But precisely I had removed VM following the instructions in that other thread!
For one line though, I didn't get any reaction (I am sorry but i can't recall which one, service or service- service). I see in Jerry's post that doing it a second time won't hurt so I'll do that and report.
 

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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2019, 05:22:18 AM »
 

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The error was caused by the fact I had not unchecked the autostart option for VM in the settings. Booting time is reduced. Will try to add the "static IP" as suggested by Jerry in the link (but does it go through changing it in the ethernet settings if I use the computer mainly via Wifi?).
 

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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2019, 05:23:33 AM »
 

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Static IP - instructions in Help Manual.
 

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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2019, 05:31:34 AM »
 

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Yes thanks, this is where I checked (following your advice at https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/release-announcements/linux-lite-4-0-beta-released/). But for non-geeks like me it is unclear whether I should do the setting in the ethernet menu first and it will apply to my wifi connection or if I can go directly to the wifi in the Edit Connections. Also, I haven't found the "netmask" in my provider documentation. I will post a new topic when I try to install the static IP.
 

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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2019, 05:37:05 AM »
 

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Setting a static ip for wireless is the same procedure as wired. In the tray, click on the Network icon, Connection information, there you will see existing network info like Subnet Mask. No need for new topic.
 

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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2019, 05:00:07 AM »
 

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Maybe it's just an "upstream" thing, but I wonder why vbox is in there to begin with.  I don't think most Linux Lite users even use virtualbox.

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VirtualBox support is included and has always been because this is how many people review an OS before they install it. Having the right support - clipboard, drag & drop, network, graphics etc gives a significantly better impression of an OS's function.

Better than a LiveUSB?  And do Windows users and newbies - the target market for this distro - use Virtualbox at all?  Is the Vbox support there for somewhat experienced users to test Linux Lite?

Perhaps a script and option to remove this performance-inhibiting drag on the system should be included in welcome screen or in Lite Tweaks or something.  It's bloatware as far as your target market is concerned IMHO.



 

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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2019, 05:12:52 AM »
 

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A lot of YT reviews are done in VB too. Having it preinstalled greatly helps the review.
 

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2019, 12:47:47 PM »
 

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It's bloatware as far as your target market is concerned IMHO.

Until I get swathes of people describing LL as bloatware, I consider your opinion just that, and believe me, I get some pretty nasty emails sometimes with peoples descriptions of LL.

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LOL don't get me wrong, I love my Linux Lite, and and happy with it!  I just can't imagine that newbies and Windows users have any use for Vbox, that's all.  If it help the project, then that matters too!

That's why I suggested a link or instructions in the Welcome screen or Lite Manual - maybe in Lite Tweaks - on removing Vbox for those of us who have no use for it, especially since it slows down boot times.

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