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Hardware - Support => Start up and Shutdown => Topic started by: micra on October 03, 2015, 02:18:10 PM

Title: Boot up problem
Post by: micra on October 03, 2015, 02:18:10 PM
Firstly i have found Linux Lite an outstanding OS.....  It has trouble free untill today....

When booting up.....  Put in password.....  Then i get a black screen with a cursor on it.....

If i boot up into windows.....  Works Ok.....

I would appreciate if some could help me with this one.....  A solution or a way to recover without losing settings.....

I have used systemback..... Can this be used to recover if there is not a easy solution....   

Regards
Title: Re: Boot up problem
Post by: paul1149 on October 03, 2015, 07:36:34 PM
If you press the Super key (Win-key), do you see the menu or is everything black?
Title: Re: Boot up problem
Post by: avj on October 03, 2015, 11:01:50 PM
When booting up.....  Put in password.....  Then i get a black screen with a cursor on it.....

The first thing you need to figure out is if the system is frozen or not, if you only see a cursor try pressing [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[F1] this should take you to TTY1, it is like a terminal and you will have to login to continue. Your password won't show as it is typed in.  Once you get to a command prompt, which will look something like this command prompt from my system albert@AOA150-1777:~$, you should enter the following to start systemback and use it to restore your last backup.

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sudo systemback-cliYou will have to enter the admin password to run the sudo command.

If you can't get to a command prompt I am afraid you will probably have to reinstall Linux Lite.
Title: Re: Boot up problem
Post by: micra on October 04, 2015, 08:30:40 AM
If you press the Super key (Win-key), do you see the menu or is everything black?
Thank you for the reply....   The answer is everything is black....
Title: Re: Boot up problem
Post by: micra on October 04, 2015, 08:44:23 AM
Thank you for the reply....  I did what you advised....   I had two restore dates..... Used both of them.. But i am afraid that i have the same problem...
If i run a live version....  Everything runs fine....
I also cannot work out how this happened.....  I do not want to take all the time reinstalling everything then to have it happen again...

Is there a way to repair Linux Lite with the live disk.....

Thanks..
Title: Re: Boot up problem
Post by: rokytnji on October 04, 2015, 09:27:34 AM
Starting to sound like hardware failure at some point since a live session is OK. I'd run a test on the hard drive myself to rule out platter mechanical failure.
Title: Re: Boot up problem
Post by: heihar on October 14, 2015, 05:35:05 AM
I have had the exact same problem.  :-[

I thought it was because i messed with compiz.
I am reinstalling my LL, as i didn't have anything on my harddisk other then some tweaks.
The live DVD works fine, and a first reboot is fine too.

Just one question, did you also de-install flash??
Because as far as i can remember thats the last tweak i did before my machine went black.

I was able to remotely login via SSH, and found that if i did:
 $ sudo stop lightdm
and then
 $ sudo startxcfe4
the desktop would show, but as its was done bij sudo, i was logged in as root.
I tried some settings but when rebooting the machine would still not work.
So i now decided to reinstall, did a memory test but no problems where found.

Im gonna watch this closely.

---Edit---
Update:
So i have run install updates, and it still works, i have disabled the light locker, (Unchecked) Switched off Enable light-locker in light locker settings.
I'm installing weatherplugin and the games pack and the optional-extra's.
I'll update soon.

Update:
As expected it still works after the installation of the software and adding weather plugin to my pannel.
Im gonna install a bunch of apps and not use Conky for now and see what happens. I'll leave flash alone  for now too. Update soon.

Update:
I have removed flash, and it still works. (Just like on my virtualbox instance on my mac)
I have installed shiki color (themes) and they work.
Installed gufw, and SSH.
I'm glade it works but a bit worried i haven't found the problem yet.

I'll install some more software like clamav, conky i'll save for last.

Maybe i should figure out how to backup this stuff. Like in a ISO or something that will just overwrite my data when ever this problem reoccurs.
So unfortunately i wasn't able to figure out what exactly caused this to happen.

====!!FOUND IT!!====
After installing clamav the system went black again.
It seems the problem is with clamav, which is not what i expected.
Later on night i'll try and remove it via ssh or command line, if i can figure out a way to get to it.
ctl-alt-F1 shout do the trick i read somewhere.

 ==Solution==
So i removed clam, but that didn't do the trick.
sudo apt-get --purge remove clamav clamav-base clamav-freshclam libclamav6
I rebooted after that but it didn't solve it.
So i pressed ctrl-alt-F1
Logged in with my username and password, and then did the following:
sudo stop lightdm
then did: (notice without sudo!)
startxfce4
That made it run again!
I did a reboot not doing anything else. Had to enter my password to be able to do that....
And after this reboot it just worked again, all of it.

So next time you have a black screen try:
ctlr-alt-F1
login using your username & password.
do:
sudo stop lightdm
startxfce4
After the desktop runs, reboot. (enter password if needed)
And then it should work for you again too.

Title: Re: Boot up problem
Post by: ChrisL on October 29, 2015, 08:44:11 AM
Thank you heihar!


I had this same issue after attempting an update yesterday, and tried your suggested fix:


ctlr-alt-F1
login using your username & password
do:sudo stop lightdm
startxfce4
After the desktop runs, reboot. (enter password if needed)

It came up fine after the startxfce4, but upon reboot. same deal (black screen w/cursor).  I repeated it and did a Systemback restore and it seemed fine after that.   Makes me wonder though what the deal is with numerous users having this issue in October?


Thanks again.
                     Chris