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Win8.1 OS (C:) partition refuses to shrink!
#1
I have to copies of my original win8.1 OS, thankfully, as the original one doesn't work.
On the 250GB SSD is the following:
900MB recovery partition
100MB EFI System Partition
231.78GB OS (CSmile NTFS

I need to shrink C: so that I have some space for an LL2.4 reinstall. The shrink tool under Disk Management doesn't seem to work, or at least is indicating that no space is available for shrinking.  This is strange as I did it before, and the windows shrink tool usually allows up to a 50% shrinkage to generate free space. Can I, instead shrink under an LL live environment, using GParted to do the job for me?

Thanks for any help
Mike
64bit OS (32-bit on Samsung[i] netbook) installed in [i]Legacy mode on MBR-formatted SSDs (except pi which uses a micro SDHC card):
2017 - Raspberry pi 3B (4cores) ~ Arm710@1.2GHz - LibreElec, used for upgrading our Samsung TV (excellent for the task)  
2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ i3-3110M@2.4GHz - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom N455@1.66GHz - LL 3.8 32-bit (64-bit too 'laggy')
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel T3200@2.0GHz - LL4.6/Win8.1 dual-boot, LL works fine with kernel 4.15
2007 - Dell Latitude D630 (2cores) ~ Intel T7100@1.8GHz - LL4.6, works well with kernel 4.4; 4.15 doesn't work
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#2
Hello!

Folks, if I've left anything important out of all this, please correct me. This should go without saying, but if you can, BACK EVERYTHING UP before attempting ANY of this!

Although it's not the preferred method, yes, you CAN use GPartEd from LiveCD/LiveUSB. I used to do it that way before someone here told me that it's best done - and done so more quickly - in Windows.

Since you have a UEFI boot partition, you probably use GPT partitioning. If you don't, you will have to create a fourth partition as a logical partition to use for your LL partition and swap area.

Just make sure to reboot into Windows right after you shrink it in GPartEd, so that it can run a CHKDSK on the newly-resized partition. If it doesn't run CHKDSK automatically (it should), tell it to...

73 DE N4RPS
Rob
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#3
Thanks Rob.
Yes, my drive has GPT partitions so, from what you so, it looks good to shrink using LL live in Gparted.
Thanks for your help. I will subsequently post the outcome...

Cheers
Mike
64bit OS (32-bit on Samsung[i] netbook) installed in [i]Legacy mode on MBR-formatted SSDs (except pi which uses a micro SDHC card):
2017 - Raspberry pi 3B (4cores) ~ Arm710@1.2GHz - LibreElec, used for upgrading our Samsung TV (excellent for the task)  
2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ i3-3110M@2.4GHz - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom N455@1.66GHz - LL 3.8 32-bit (64-bit too 'laggy')
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel T3200@2.0GHz - LL4.6/Win8.1 dual-boot, LL works fine with kernel 4.15
2007 - Dell Latitude D630 (2cores) ~ Intel T7100@1.8GHz - LL4.6, works well with kernel 4.4; 4.15 doesn't work
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#4
Hi,

Only only briefly flirted with Win8, but having read in various forums/threads depending on how Win8 is setup it can make disk management a bit more difficult.?
From what I read if you have "Fast Boot" and/or "Hibernation" enabled it seems to set flags/locks on the disk which may account for why within Win8 you are unable to resize.??
I can see the rational, if you try to shrink it, you could inadvertently make it smaller than Win8 needs for it's own internal needs..??

Having said that, not sure what the impact will be if you re-size it from "outside" of Win8 with gparted.

GL - Dave
Upgrades WIP 2.6 to 2.8 - (6 X 2.6 to 2.8 completed on: 20/02/16 All O.K )
Linux Lite 3.0 Humming on a ASRock N3070 Mobo ~ btrfs RAID 10 Install on 4 Disks Smile

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#5
Even under GParted it appears impossible to resize by any amount... min size & max size both given as 237344MB !
Oh dear... what to do?

Yours woefully
Mike
64bit OS (32-bit on Samsung[i] netbook) installed in [i]Legacy mode on MBR-formatted SSDs (except pi which uses a micro SDHC card):
2017 - Raspberry pi 3B (4cores) ~ Arm710@1.2GHz - LibreElec, used for upgrading our Samsung TV (excellent for the task)  
2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ i3-3110M@2.4GHz - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom N455@1.66GHz - LL 3.8 32-bit (64-bit too 'laggy')
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel T3200@2.0GHz - LL4.6/Win8.1 dual-boot, LL works fine with kernel 4.15
2007 - Dell Latitude D630 (2cores) ~ Intel T7100@1.8GHz - LL4.6, works well with kernel 4.4; 4.15 doesn't work
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#6
Rob, I've succeeded.
I downloaded the free version of Minitool Partition Wizard and it worked a treat in shrinking the drive by 50% & healthy rebooting.
EaseUS Partition was another option but after the free demo, you had to pay $39 to get the key to apply the changes.  Fingers crossed
that the free one doesn't come with malware...
Regards
Mike
64bit OS (32-bit on Samsung[i] netbook) installed in [i]Legacy mode on MBR-formatted SSDs (except pi which uses a micro SDHC card):
2017 - Raspberry pi 3B (4cores) ~ Arm710@1.2GHz - LibreElec, used for upgrading our Samsung TV (excellent for the task)  
2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ i3-3110M@2.4GHz - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom N455@1.66GHz - LL 3.8 32-bit (64-bit too 'laggy')
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel T3200@2.0GHz - LL4.6/Win8.1 dual-boot, LL works fine with kernel 4.15
2007 - Dell Latitude D630 (2cores) ~ Intel T7100@1.8GHz - LL4.6, works well with kernel 4.4; 4.15 doesn't work
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#7
Hi,

I don't have Win8...
Google "How to check if Fast Boot is enabled" and "How to check if Hibernation is enabled"


If they are.??, Disable them, re-boot, and check in Win8 if you can then re-size.?


Dave
Upgrades WIP 2.6 to 2.8 - (6 X 2.6 to 2.8 completed on: 20/02/16 All O.K )
Linux Lite 3.0 Humming on a ASRock N3070 Mobo ~ btrfs RAID 10 Install on 4 Disks Smile

Computers Early days:
ZX Spectrum(1982) , HP-150 MS-DOS(1983) , Amstrad CPC464(1984) ,  BBC Micro B+64(1985) , My First PC HP-Vectra(1987)
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#8
I guess I was typing at the same time....

I assume you can still boot, Win8 & Linux O.K

Dave
Upgrades WIP 2.6 to 2.8 - (6 X 2.6 to 2.8 completed on: 20/02/16 All O.K )
Linux Lite 3.0 Humming on a ASRock N3070 Mobo ~ btrfs RAID 10 Install on 4 Disks Smile

Computers Early days:
ZX Spectrum(1982) , HP-150 MS-DOS(1983) , Amstrad CPC464(1984) ,  BBC Micro B+64(1985) , My First PC HP-Vectra(1987)
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#9
...Re. dual boot win8.1/LL2.4... yes, working iwith UEFI fully enabled (crikey, LL boots really quickly in UEFI!) but a bit of a long story... I am now back where I started setting up binding of DATA subdirectories to My Home Directories... taking on board goldfinger's advice about putting the EFI partition in the fstab file... getting there and will get back to that thread soon.

Thanks Rob
Mike
64bit OS (32-bit on Samsung[i] netbook) installed in [i]Legacy mode on MBR-formatted SSDs (except pi which uses a micro SDHC card):
2017 - Raspberry pi 3B (4cores) ~ Arm710@1.2GHz - LibreElec, used for upgrading our Samsung TV (excellent for the task)  
2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ i3-3110M@2.4GHz - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom N455@1.66GHz - LL 3.8 32-bit (64-bit too 'laggy')
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel T3200@2.0GHz - LL4.6/Win8.1 dual-boot, LL works fine with kernel 4.15
2007 - Dell Latitude D630 (2cores) ~ Intel T7100@1.8GHz - LL4.6, works well with kernel 4.4; 4.15 doesn't work
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#10
Great News...

Hope you have kept good notes..!!  Smile
Just in case you ever need to start from scratch..!!  :o


With the various threads, the notes could be a good "How To..."


Dave
Upgrades WIP 2.6 to 2.8 - (6 X 2.6 to 2.8 completed on: 20/02/16 All O.K )
Linux Lite 3.0 Humming on a ASRock N3070 Mobo ~ btrfs RAID 10 Install on 4 Disks Smile

Computers Early days:
ZX Spectrum(1982) , HP-150 MS-DOS(1983) , Amstrad CPC464(1984) ,  BBC Micro B+64(1985) , My First PC HP-Vectra(1987)
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