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wireless networks "device not ready"
#11
thanks, for these TWO new commands. they don't look familiar (to any the previous ones U'd passed me) but i certainly know/have run these before - in/on my 'other' troubleshooting meandering journeys. don't know that i'd have any of those previous results to compare against THESE current results, OR that i'd recognize what/how to proceed in the effort to address maybe what may need to be changed/modified in 7.x - however, & IF i'm not mistaken, the kernel is of an earlier-older ver., perhaps U will see a next step(s) to try/consider. here U go, & thanks again!

sudo lshw -C network
*-network
description: Wireless interface
product: Intel Corporation
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 14.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.3
logical name: wlp0s20f3
version: 00
serial: d4:f3:2d:a7:16:ba
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=5.15.0-140-generic firmware=64.97bbee0a.0 so-a0-hr-b0-64.uc ip=10.0.0.72 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
resources: iomemory:600-5ff irq:16 memory:6001144000-6001147fff

uname -r
5.15.0-140-generic
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#12
Thank you for the information.

Yes, we are now looking at the kernel and driver so different commands are needed.  I wasn't expecting you to have records of these commands from before, but it is interesting that they are familiar to you.

It looks like you've fully installed LL6 to get the data.
This was one of the workarounds suggested.
If you are running LL6.x and everything is working and you are happy with it we can stop here.

If you want to continue with LL7, there are no guarantees of progress. As before, the best bet of fixing the LL7 setup is re-finding the commands you used earlier to get it working.

Getting the kernel and driver versions from the LL7 set up is preliminary information gathering which may help the search/bug reporting process.   You can get the kernel/driver version information by booting a Live Media boot of LL7.x, confirming it does not work and then running the commands.
stevef
clueless
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#13
(05-16-2025, 05:32 AM)stevef Wrote: Thank you for the information.

Yes, we are now looking at the kernel and driver so different commands are needed.  I wasn't expecting you to have records of these commands from before, but it is interesting that they are familiar to you.

It looks like you've fully installed LL6 to get the data.
This was one of the workarounds suggested.
If you are running LL6.x and everything is working and you are happy with it we can stop here.

If you want to continue with LL7, there are no guarantees of progress. As before, the best bet of fixing the LL7 setup is re-finding the commands you used earlier to get it working.

Getting the kernel and driver versions from the LL7 set up is preliminary information gathering which may help the search/bug reporting process.   You can get the kernel/driver version information by booting a Live Media boot of LL7.x, confirming it does not work and then running the commands.

fwiw: i've reached out to Intel Customer Support & am extracting out of today's reply:

...it appears that the iwlwifi driver is not included in your Linux distribution. This omission may be preventing your system from utilizing the wireless card effectively. Thus, please reach out to the Linux distribution community or support for guidance on loading the iwlwifi driver and updating your kernel to the latest version

the "iwlwifi" url/link holds [https://deref-mail.com/mail/client/bFELL...lwifi.html]

so - lemme ask, are U/LLos the said 'linux distribution community or support' guidance i should be seeking OR do i now reach out to another Mother (Ubuntu)? i've looked around quite a bit (Dr. Google) trying to find the simple stuff but mention/s of backlinks/porting/s, NDISwrapper, manipulating drivers a/o kernal/s, plus a BUNCH of other linux-speak is well above my level of understanding. maybe, what else should i do or try, besides downgrading/settling w/ LL6.x? thanks for hanging in there w/ me!
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#14
Quote:it appears that the iwlwifi driver is not included in your Linux distribution

This is some of information that we know about your system.

Post #3
Quote:inxi -n
Network:
  Device-1: Intel CNVi driver: iwlwifi
  IF: wlp0s20f3 state: down mac: d4:f3:2d:a7:16:ba

Post #5
Shows the log extracts from your system which match the Intel references 'CNVi' or 'iwlwifi'
There are multiple entries that show the driver in operation and failing to properly load.

Post #7
Quote:Network:
Device-1: Intel cnvi driver: iwlwifi

Post #11
Quote:driver=iwlwifi

Have you provided Intel customer support with different information that may mislead them ?
It is hard to understand why Intel might suggest the iwlwifi driver is not included in the distribution.
Are they suggesting you need to use a different driver or a specific version of their driver ?

Quote:so - lemme ask, are U/LLos the said 'linux distribution community or support' guidance i should be seeking OR do i now reach out to another Mother (Ubuntu)?
This is the support forum for the Linux Lite distribution. The aim here is to support Linux Lite users with their systems as far as possible.  Other forums have their own aims and it is hard to know what response you will get elsewhere. An Ubuntu forum will likely suggest you come back here, a general Linux forum might provide generic assistance.

Quote:what else should i do or try
Post #10 attempts to summarise the possibilities (in rough order from simple to complex).

1) Use wired
2) Find the commands you used earlier which reportedly got the Intel adaptor working on Lite version 7.x - any progress on this ?
3) If it works ok - use Linux Lite 6.x
4) Use a USB wifi adaptor (Non Intel)
5) Provide the information requested previously to allow further investigation (bug reports, driver manipulation)

Quote:thanks for hanging in there w/ me!
You're welcome.
stevef
clueless
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#15
Did the commands to fix the issue with running your wifi on Linux Lite 7.x include anything like this ?

Code:
sudo apt update && sudo apt install backport-iwlwifi-dkms

This is not a instruction or recommendation to run the command - just trying to work out what you did.
stevef
clueless
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#16
...Thanks, Captain!

JSYK: when i went back to 'the "iwlwifi" url/link holds' that i posted in my #13 reply NOW appears to be foul - it looks like it should've been [https://wireless.docs.kernel.org/en/late...lwifi.html]. interesting, now that i re-look @ it, they have TWO sub's titled "introduction" & "bugs/support" - prob. more meaningful to a geek than to me, but i digress.

answers/comments to some 'other' points: Did the commands to fix the issue with running your wifi on Linux Lite 7.x include anything like this? code: sudo apt update && sudo apt install backport-iwlwifi-dkms - YES=familiar, similar, like-that but couldn't say when i might've run it or which ver. of LL or before dumping/reloading version(s) or what the results were. a bit confusing that U'd present a disclaimer ~ running it "just trying to work out what you (I) did" ... well, i ran it anyway - worse case i dump/reload/rinse/repeat OS again:

sudo apt update && sudo apt install backport-iwlwifi-dkms

Hit:1 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
Hit:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-security InRelease             
Hit:4 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease         
Hit:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble InRelease                     
Hit:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates InRelease             
Hit:7 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-backports InRelease           
Hit:8 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-proposed InRelease           
Hit:9 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu noble InRelease 
Hit:10 https://packages.mozilla.org/apt mozilla InRelease                     
Hit:11 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla...ext/ubuntu noble InRelease
Hit:3 https://repo.linuxliteos.com/linuxlite galena InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
5 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
W: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla.../InRelease: Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024)
W: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla.../InRelease: Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
backport-iwlwifi-dkms is already the newest version (11510-0ubuntu1.1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.

& from UR #10 reply (?):
1) Use wired - I AM/DO/CAN ONLY USE WIRED, i WANT to use/fix wire-LESS in 7.x (8.x?, 9.x?, X.x?)
2) Find the commands you used earlier which reportedly got the Intel adaptor working on Lite version 7.x - any progress on this ? - I HAVE, & CONTINUE TO, SEARCH (Dr. Google, Brave, DDG) TO THE BEST OF MY REMEMBERING WHAT / WHERE I MAY HAVE STUMBLED ON THAT 'PREVIOUS' COMMANDS I'D USED EARLIER - FROM TIME-TO-TIME & ~ AS OFTEN AS U REPEATEDLY SUGGEST/REQUEST THIS. BELIEVE ME, IF I HAD/EVER HAVE THE ANSWER OR FIND THE MAGIC ANSWER I WILL ADVISE IT, POST IT, SUPPLY/SHARE IT WITH U & THE WORLD. no, i have no progress on this, other than MORE Q's, MORE confusion & LITTLE understanding of wildly suggested gyrations.
4) Use a USB wifi adaptor (Non Intel) - IMPRACTICAL, NOT AN OPTION!
5) Provide the information requested previously to allow further investigation (bug reports, driver manipulation) - I'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO RUN REQUESTED REPORTS A/O ALL OF THE PREVIOUS ONES AGAIN, OR MAKE CHANGES & RUN 'EM AGAIN - I SIMPLY DON'T KNOW WHAT ONE NEEDS UNLESS DIRECTED TO DO SO.

Have you provided Intel customer support with different information that may mislead them? - CERTAINLY NOT INTENTIONAL OR DECEPTIVELY. THEY EVEN ASKED SOME/MORE OF THE SAME ONES U'D ASKED. EVEN REPEATED/REPEATING/DUPLICATING SOME OF THE SAME RESULTING REPORT INFORMATION

It is hard to understand why Intel might suggest the iwlwifi driver is not included in the distribution. - AGREED, NOT REALLY SURE I GOT TO A PROPER 'TECH' LEVEL CS/TS AGENT

Are they suggesting you need to use a different driver or a specific version of their driver? - COUDN'T SAY WHAT THEY'RE 'SUGGESTING' BUT NOT TERRIBLY INTERESTED IN ASKING 'EM TO EXPOUND @ THIS POINT
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#17
Trying to diagnose what may be a kernel/driver/firmware issue can be protracted and complex under the best of circumstances and there is no guarantee of progress. Post 10 included a request for the results of these commands when booted from LL6 and when booted from LL7.

Code:
sudo lshw -C network
Code:
uname -r

Post 11 provided the results from a LL6 boot - thank you.
Post 12 included a request for the command results from a LL7 boot.
stevef
clueless
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#18
did NOT realize i'd missed #12, thanks for keeping me on track. i went ahead & re-ran the two requested LL6 commands but haven't looked to compare the previous #11 results, shouldn't be diff., but please check my work to confirm an exact match. not sure i've done is correctly, & i hope it's easy enough to cipher the combo of requests/results:

sudo lshw -C network & uname -r
---
from:LL6.6liveUSB
sudo lshw -C network
*-network
description: Wireless interface
product: Intel Corporation
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 14.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.3
logical name: wlp0s20f3
version: 00
serial: d4:f3:2d:a7:16:ba
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=5.15.0-82-generic firmware=64.97bbee0a.0 so-a0-hr-b0-64.uc ip=10.0.0.67 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
resources: iomemory:600-5ff irq:16 memory:6001144000-6001147fff
uname -r
5.15.0-82-generic
---
from:LL7.4liveUSB
sudo lshw -C network
*-network DISABLED
description: Wireless interface
product: CNVi: Wi-Fi
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 14.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.3
logical name: wlp0s20f3
version: 00
serial: d4:f3:2d:a7:16:ba
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=6.8.0-56-generic firmware=86.fb5c9aeb.0 so-a0-hr-b0-86.uc latency=0 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
resources: iomemory:600-5ff irq:16 memory:6001144000-6001147fff
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
physical id: f
bus info: usb@2:4
logical name: enx00051bdcd088
serial: 00:05:1b:dc:d0:88
size: 1Gbit/s
capacity: 1Gbit/s
capabilities: ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8152 driverversion=v1.12.13 duplex=full firmware=rtl8153b-2 v2 04/27/23 ip=10.0.0.249 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=1Gbit/s
uname -r
6.8.0-56-generic

...stand(ing) by for, NEWS!
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#19
Please boot LL6 and provide the output shown by these two commands.
Code:
sudo lspci -s 00:14.3 -v
Code:
sudo dmesg | grep -i -E 'crf|00:14.3|iwl|wlp0s20f3
Enter your password if asked.

Then the same from a LL7 boot.
stevef
clueless
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#20
Is this on a laptop with a mechanical or keyboard switch for WIFI? Usually the mystery cause of "*-network DISABLED".

TC
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