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Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
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The command below should clear the recent array.
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xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -p /plugins/plugin-10/recent -rThe plugin is 10 on all my LL machines, but it's easy enough to check and change if neccessary. I think we should keep it in.
Also does restore the panel work?
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Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
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Etcher and Telegram both show up as installed apps (according to the lite-software app) but they aren't really installed, or something strange going on.  I never used Telegram but like having the Balena Etcher app in there.  Hopefully it will be in the final release.  It shows up when you choose the  "Remove Software" option but then it says "No Application was selected for removal" if you try to remove it.  Strange.

Found 2 new bugs to fix in 7.0
Etcher and Telegram show in Lite Software, Remove Software. Fixed for the final.

I've noticed the absence of Telegram but never crossed my mind to look into the "Remove". On a fresh install, it seemed pointless.
Thanks for the info!
Etcher, on the other hand, was at its proper place. That is really strange. I installed it, just to test how the applet works.
I usually install at least Etcher and SimpleScreenRecorder. Wanted Telegram too, but since it was missing I thought maybe in the 7.0 final, would be replaced with something else.
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Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
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Found 2 new bugs to fix in 7.0
Etcher and Telegram show in Lite Software, Remove Software. Fixed for the final.

I've noticed the absence of Telegram but never crossed my mind to look into the "Remove". On a fresh install, it seemed pointless.
Thanks for the info!
Etcher, on the other hand, was at its proper place. That is really strange. I installed it, just to test how the applet works.
I usually install at least Etcher and SimpleScreenRecorder. Wanted Telegram too, but since it was missing I thought maybe in the 7.0 final, would be replaced with something else.
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Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
« Reply #68 on: May 20, 2024, 11:32:59 PM »
 

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Found 2 new bugs to fix in 7.0
Etcher and Telegram show in Lite Software, Remove Software. Fixed for the final.
 

Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
« Reply #67 on: May 20, 2024, 07:23:01 PM »
 

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Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
« Reply #66 on: May 20, 2024, 07:08:57 PM »
 

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I noticed a small bug / glitch when using the new lite-tweaks file Jerry.  Not a huge deal but the checkmark icons you have in the script might not show up correctly in the original version.  I've updated the file so, hopefully, that won't happen with this version:

https://digitalhemi.com/files/apps/Linux/LL7-RC1/lite-tweaks

I especially noticed the problem when running the browser cashe cleaning tweaks (Firefox and Chrome).  The checkmark icons showed up in Zenity as "ee-^e" or something bizarre like that.

We'll be using @sqwuade lite tweaks file, thank you.

zenity how has webkit disabled in the newer Ubuntu packages, so we put a mark hold on zenity and zenity-common
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zenity/+changelog
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Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
« Reply #65 on: May 20, 2024, 09:41:44 AM »
 

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The same thing can be done by just right mouse-clicking a Recently Used App icon and selecting "Clear Recently Used"

True but that's a little PATH wonky too. The right click function should really be on the main button "Recently Used". Also PATH wonky "Whisker Menu" is grayed out in the right click menu option and instead right click Properties takes you to Whisker Menu. Both are XFCE quirks not Linux Lite but I wonder if it's related to allowing for right click desktop menu. XDG? Which we could live without on Linux Lite.

On another note did restore the panel work for you after removing whisker menu references from tweaks?
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Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
« Reply #64 on: May 20, 2024, 07:31:20 AM »
 

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New bug to report:

I wanted to set up a new LL7-RC1 test box and do a dual boot on a LL6.6 box I run as a media server (Gerbera).  The machine is a Dell 5050 i5-7500, 8Gb RAM w/ a 1Tb NVMe primary drive and an 8Tb 3.5" as a data drive.  I've been running this machine for quite awhile as a secondary media server and no issues with it.  I chose the Direct install of LL7 from the loader menu (As opposed to live mode) and everything progressed along normally until I got to the "Where to install" screen.  I chose "Alongside Linux Lite 6.6" but then the installer wouldn't give me the option to install on the NVMe drive; it only showed the 8Tb data drive as an option.

I closed out and the system dropped to Live desktop mode so I tried again from the "Install Linux Lite Now" shortcut on the desktop.  It lead me to the same impasse as the direct install - it didn't recognize / or show the 1Tb NVMe drive.  It was basically forcing me to install on the 8Tb secondary drive.

I then ran the test again using Xubuntu 24.04, since it's the same base OS as LL7, and it did not have the problem.  The NVMe showed up fine that time and I could have partitioned 500Mb for each OS or whatever I wanted to do.

That's definitely a substantial bug.  Any ideas on what could be causing it?

Maybe I'll try the test again and unplug the data cable from the 8Tb drive and see what happens that way.

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It worked fine installing a dual-boot (6.6 and 7) install w/ the 2nd drive unplugged.  The LL7 OS shows up as "Ubuntu" in the Grub bootloader menu though.  The other OS shows up as "Linux Lite 6.6".

Also, I tried the same thing on another machine I've got (Debian 12.5 and a 2Tb secondary drive) and it had the same issue as on the first PC when trying to setup as dual-boot - It would only show me the secondary drive as an option to install the OS.  This machine is a lot older than the first one (c.2009).  1st Gen i7 920 processor,
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Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
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We'll be using @sqwuade lite tweaks file, thank you.

zenity how has webkit disabled in the newer Ubuntu packages, so we put a mark hold on zenity and zenity-common
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Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
« Reply #62 on: May 20, 2024, 04:05:12 AM »
 

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Clear Recently used items now stored in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml under "recent" type="array" around line 92.

The recently cleared option isn't viewed as a deal breaker for me.
 

Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
« Reply #61 on: May 20, 2024, 03:46:04 AM »
 

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Try this for a lite-tweaks fix:

Copy the /usr/bin/lite-tweaks file from a 6.6 install and move it to your 7RC1 machine.  B00M!  It's fixed!

Almost... but the "Whisker Menu Recent Apps" tweak won't work.  I have a working copy of the lite-tweaks script with all references to "Whisker Menu Cleaner" removed here:

https://digitalhemi.com/files/apps/Linux/LL7-RC1/lite-tweaks

I'd recommend this version be used in the 7 release, unless we can can get the "Whisker Menu Cleaner" tweak fixed before then.

The version of the lite-tweaks script included in 7-RC1 had all references to the Whisker Menu tweak commented out - but somehow, that's what causes the whole thing to fail.  Once I just deleted all of  the Whisker Menu lines, instead of commenting them out, it worked fine.  You can also uncomment all of the Whisker Menu lines and it will work - and Whisker Menu Cleaner will show up again but won't work.  More info on the reason here:

https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=17478
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Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
« Reply #60 on: May 20, 2024, 03:20:11 AM »
 

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That file not longer exists in Whisker Menu 2.8 Trinidad.  The old version was 2.7.1 (In LL6.6).  I've been talking to someone named ToZ of the Xfce board about it and they confirmed that the "Recently Used" apps data is not stored in the whiskermenu-10.rc file any longer.  I don't know why that whiskermenu-10.rc.backup file still exists in there but I know the one you're talking about - I saw it in there too.

I was able to get the Recently Used apps to clear via lite-tweaks after modifying the script using Toz's method.  The new xfconf method doesn't require you to logout and then back in for the changes to manifest either, so that's a plus.  I agree: "The whiskermenu recent items tweak is something we could live without since recent only populates ten anyway." The same thing can be done by just right mouse-clicking a Recently Used App icon and selecting "Clear Recently Used"

Here's the info I got from ToZ on the Xfce message board:

The Whiskermenu migrated to using xfconf for its settings in 2.8. You can view them through the xfce4-settings-editor - look in the xfce4-panel channel, /plugins tree.

    Specifically I'm trying to figure out what replaced the functionality that used to happen on line 2 of that file

Its now stored in the "/plugins/plugin-XX/recent" property.

    And is there a way to clear the Recently Used apps via a terminal command or can it now only be done via the GUI?

You can use xfconf-query. Here are some examples (my whiskermenu has an ID of 13):

Display the current list of recent applications:

xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -p /plugins/plugin-13/recent

Edit an array:
Unfortunately there is no easy way to delete and insert entries via the command line (you can do it much easier through xfce4-settings-editor). To do so via the command line, you need to re-create the array with all entries:

xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -p /plugins/plugin-13/recent -t string -s "gimp" -t string -s "inkscape"

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Source:
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=17478

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because the path/file "$HOME/.config/xfce4/panel/whiskermenu-10.rc" no longer exists in LL7
The backup is in ~/.config/xfce4/  The current whiskermenu-10.rc file is not anywhere, appears to have never been created even though a backup was created in the wrong folder. May just be a menu libre or XFCE change issue but of course tweaks won't work without a file path. The whiskermenu recent items tweak is something we could live without since recent only populates ten anyway. Anyway I've noticed too many PATH changes comparing files between 6.6 to 7.x. Before I come to any conclusions why this would occur I'm going to install a new 7.x system and sort them out from scratch. Once that is done because Lite-Tweaks is essentially a c2 server I'm going to add a policy-kit.service specifically for it and a regular /var/rotating log. Right now I'm hating on Ubuntu and Debian. PKLA was always more secure and usr merge has been a pain.

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Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2024, 09:32:25 PM »
 

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Screen shot of the odd Timeshift behaviour.



Timeshift window with odd name and snaphot saved as 'Jammy'
Text file showing the start of the Timeshift log getting the distribution name (line 2)
Terminal window showing the system is running 7.0 rc1

This is from a fresh (Erase disk) installation.

It's probably getting the naming from the /etc/lsb-release file.
 

Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
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@sqwuade Following your discussion on XFCE forum.

https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=17478
Will the plugin number be the same on all LL 7 installed systems or is it randomized (hit or miss) during installation given it's a plugin? And what happens if new plugins are added after the fact? Why did LL 7 installation still generate the .rc.backup, but in the wrong location? Caused by an unexpected shell change?

I think lite-tweaks is a signature application of Linux Lite and it is important that it not be abandoned in this release.
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We're keeping it in.
 

Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released
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I think lite-tweaks is a signature application of Linux Lite and it is important that it not be abandoned in this release.
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I strongly agree with that!
I use it, my wife uses it.
As far as I could see, on the mentioned thread, is given a sample code on how to deal with the "random ID":
Passing the contents of the variable, might solve more than one problem.
Anyway, some of the scripts are working fine: Lite Software, Lite Widget. I tested those today.
I also thought maybe another solution would be useful.
Since all "Lite *" tools reside in /usr/bin/*, maybe creating a directory /usr/bin/litebins/* and place all those there and a liteapps.conf would prevent such events from happening in the future.
The liteapps.conf file, can then hold whatever data is required for all apps to work. Further more, it can be used for future developments.
One might be some snippets to test the existence of a certain file in a certain directory and if the test fails, perform a search and retrieve the new value, or, if this is the case, create it and eventually the needed file(s).
When I was still programming, this was my approach to avoid path/missing file errors.
Maybe that is due to my backup and personal data philosophy (I hate using system directories for my data, I use dedicated partitions).

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