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Title: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on May 31, 2020, 05:36:23 PM
Release Announcement

Linux Lite 5.0 Final Codename Emerald is now available for download and installation.

This is the most feature rich, complete Linux Lite release to date. This is the release many people have been waiting for.
See below for details.

(https://i.imgur.com/m30tHJn.png)

UEFI is now supported.

Support link - https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/uefi-secure-boot/ (https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/uefi-secure-boot/)

(https://i.imgur.com/p5ZSI7j.png)


Changes:

UEFI is now supported out of the box. It is recommended that you disable Secure Boot even though it will work, it's just a huge hassle to have it enabled. See the new inbuilt Help Manual for ways to do this on the Start page.

No hidden telemetry:

(https://i.imgur.com/PuXEMsA.png)

Integrity Check during live boot (an Ubuntu implementation) Crtl+C cancels check:

(https://i.imgur.com/ni4SrQP.png)

GUFW has been replaced by the highly configurable FireWallD (disabled by default).
Please read the full guide in the Help Manual under Tutorials.

(https://i.imgur.com/ScXsVuS.png)

New Updater notifier:

(https://i.imgur.com/QrPHNji.png)

Enabled by default to check for updates twice per day, and only notify when there are updates.
To disable, Menu Settings, Session and Startup, Application Autostart tab, untick Package Update Indicator.

Latest WhiskerMenu with new default sort (Install Updates is now at the top of Favorites):

(https://i.imgur.com/7BC9g1l.png)

Easy to use, HiDPI Settings in the Settings Manager, Hardware section with handy information:

(https://i.imgur.com/FXWfdkp.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/uzlnCwQ.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/kxgWQbw.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/LTBKxNb.png)

Mousepad replaces Leafpad:

(https://i.imgur.com/gY2nNDe.png)

Paint now added to Accessories:
(Gnome Paint)

(https://i.imgur.com/0i2BnmF.png)

XFCE Screensaver now included, disabled by default:

(https://i.imgur.com/prjXyCD.png)


Lite Software:

Chrome is in, Chromium is now a Snap package and we are not going to add an entire Service for just 1 out of 2,000+ packages.
Etcher - Easily flash OS images to SD cards and USB drives.
NitroShare - a cross-platform point and click file sharer for Linux, Mac & Windows for those who don't want to mess about with Samba.
Telegram - Fast and secure messaging application.
Zim replaces unsupported CherryTree as the note taker of choice.
Pinta is gone (not being actively maintained).

(https://i.imgur.com/zyFeMn9.png)

Help Manual - massive update:

(https://i.imgur.com/Wzk4Cwg.png)

Lite Welcome (shortcuts now work) and Lite User Manager now updated to GTK3 and Python3.
3 new options on the Welcome screen: Select Dark or Light Theme, UEFI & Secure Boot, Feedback.

(https://i.imgur.com/Gci3pKF.png)

New Logout options, and the ability to hide or show them via Lite Tweaks.

(https://i.imgur.com/2NtLkfR.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/O7u7h8u.png)

New default wallpaper location:

(https://i.imgur.com/XOLjj3j.png)

OEM installer for retailers and manufacturers (Legacy and UEFI):

(https://i.imgur.com/1ztt9vx.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/HHKdmve.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/RXvl1Vk.png)

Firewall status added to Lite Widget:

(https://i.imgur.com/5V1Wcoh.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/qs4TLcG.png)

Language choice included on Login screen:

(https://i.imgur.com/HL6KCHR.png)

Dual architecture support
Trash Bin works as expected on Desktop
New Wallpapers thanks to the community and especially @whateverthing

New Help Manual entries:

- Detailed UEFI & Secure Boot information
- Installing Linux Lite to your computer - UEFI Mode
- Installing Linux Lite to your computer - Legacy BIOS Mode
- OEM Install
- Writing Linux Lite to USB on Windows
- Writing Linux Lite to DVD on Windows
- Writing Linux Lite to USB in Linux
- Writing Linux Lite to USB on Linux and OSX
- Installing Software - From Source Code
- Installing Software - From a Deb Package
- NitroShare tutorial
- USB Persistence tutorial
- Updates Notifications
- FireWall
- All other sections updated with new and relevant information

Plus dozens of other tweaks and changes, too many to list.

Special mentions:

A huge thank you to @whateverthing for his masterful artwork which without, we would be sorely lacking.

WolfLand over at the Pinguy forums. He has brought forward some time proven software to the 2020's and has been instrumental in providing us with something we can turn into a UEFI and Secure Boot supported product.

Our very generous financial supporters, you know who you are. This has been the most expensive development cycle to date. I have paid out $100's of dollars to developers in the last 2 months alone, mostly at UpWork. The changes to 2 applications alone cost $300USD and required extensive time, work and collaboration.

But I thought Linux Lite didn't support UEFI?

For those that don't follow us and our development, that was a common misconception. We've actually supported UEFI since Series 2.x, that's nearly 6 years now. You've gotten the same programs, features and tweaks as all the other Linux Lite releases, just with UEFI added. The only difference that's ever existed was that it was never pushed in the media as the default release.

Further to the above, I said we would only provide a UEFI build as default, if our hand was forced. Without going into too much detail, you can draw your own conclusions here - https://www.anandtech.com/show/12068/intel-to-remove-bios-support-from-uefi-by-2020 (https://www.anandtech.com/show/12068/intel-to-remove-bios-support-from-uefi-by-2020) Now was the latest we could react. It is what it is...
In a nutshell, Intel is dropping legacy BIOS's this year. That's roughly half the CPU market. I'd say 50% is a strong, impactful enough statistic for us to act in favour of our target base. Our goal after all, has always been to expose Windows and Mac users to an alternative operating system. We can't look at ourselves and say that we are doing that effectively if we restrict half of that market, some of which have never installed an OS before, to legacy technology.

How do I know if my Windows pc has UEFI?

In Windows Search, type msinfo or msinfo32 and launch the desktop app named System Information. Look for the BIOS Mode item, and if the value for it is UEFI, then you have the UEFI firmware. If it says BIOS Mode Legacy, then that’s the firmware you’re running.

Secure Boot is supported, but unless you know exactly how to handle it, it is a P.I.T.A. at best so I am going to say...you must disable Secure Boot to enable stress free computing.

Some helpful snippets from the latest Help Manual:

(https://i.imgur.com/fSpldox.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/xtwAJVQ.png)

UEFI Support link - https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/uefi-secure-boot/ (https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/uefi-secure-boot/)

Window Theme: Adapta
Icon Theme: Papirus
Font: Roboto Regular

Details:

Kernel: 5.4.0-33 (custom kernels also available via our Repository for versions 3.13 - 5.6)
Firefox: 76.0.1
Thunderbird: 68.8.0
LibreOffice: 6.4.3.2
VLC: 3.0.9.2
Gimp: 2.10.18
Base: 20.04

Known Issues:

No prompt to eject Media at the end of the Legacy install, prompt is available at the end of the UEFI install.
Release Notes - works only in some installation modes.
Desktop icons - English support only.
Grub - holding shift down whilst booting in UEFI mode does not bring up the Grub menu (works in Legacy mode), waiting for Ubuntu fix.
Grub menu shows Linux Lite as 'Ubuntu'. After you install Linux Lite, you can change Grub to show 'Linux Lite':

- Open /etc/default/grub as Administrator.
- Comment out: GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` and leave GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR='Linux Lite' uncommented.
- Should look like:
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR='Linux Lite'
#GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`

and finally:

Code: [Select]
sudo update-grub
Looks better when you are dual-booting with Windows too.


There is no upgrade path to or from RC releases.
There is no upgrade path from Series 2, 3 or 4 ( 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8 | 3.0, 3.2, 3.4, 3.6, 3.8 | 4.0, 4.2, 4.4, 4.6, 4. 8) to Series 5.

Downloads:

HTTPS:

Download 64bit from here - Linux Lite 5.0 Final 64bit (https://osdn.net/dl/linuxlite/linux-lite-5.0-64bit.iso)
MD5SUM: 21c7b2aa0eaf7ae60e3c14b491d7e408
SHA256: abba007adf5420bd3845dad7b43052a40874f31394d142ea740cc8f27aeec538
Size: 1.4Gb (DVD, USB)

TORRENT: (Fastest way to download the Final)

64bit Torrent from here - linux-lite-5.0-64bit.iso.torrent (https://osdn.net/projects/linuxlite/storage/5.0/linux-lite-5.0-64bit.iso.torrent)
Hash: d3b3735500e7ee77dab3fcc3144498176fdde951
Size: 1.4Gb (DVD, USB)

International Mirrors (city specific) - https://www.linuxliteos.com/mirrors.php (https://www.linuxliteos.com/mirrors.php) (wait for page to load, some mirrors may still be syncing with us)

Live USB/DVD/VirtualBox/Vmware:

Login is automatic, no credentials are required. The image can be written to a 2gb or larger USB stick, or a writable DVD. Alternatively, you can use the dd command: sudo dd if=linux-lite-5.0-64bit.iso of=/dev/sdx bs=4M where 'x' is the letter of your usb stick. In linux to find out the letter of your usb stick, open a terminal and type: df -h It is usually listed as 'media' or similar. Please see the built in Help Manual if you require a more detailed explanation of this procedure.

Reviewers in a VirtualBox:
Installing Updates does not function with a Live ISO. All features work as they should, once you have installed Linux Lite to hardware or a VM.
Once Linux Lite has been installed, add the following for a complete reviewing experience:

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11
Don't forget the Guest Additions too!
Also, get the Extensions pack from here - https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads (https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads)

ISO burning Support:
Rufus, Yumi, Multiboot and other multi-boot applications are not supported.

A good, simple point and click USB ISO burner is https://www.balena.io/etcher/ (https://www.balena.io/etcher/)
In our testing, Etcher has proven to be the most reliable and is available for Mac, Windows & Linux. You should be using Etcher for a trouble free image burn on USB.

(https://i.imgur.com/jXtdQCd.gif)

New Website
To coincide with the release of Linux Lite 5.0, I have been working with other devs for the last few months on our new website. The reason for the upgrade was to make sure we were future proofed against web technologies. Given the way tech standards and technology are evolving, hopefully we won't have to do this again for another 5 years. But if things move sooner than that, to get on as many devices as possible, then we will of course move with them. More and more people are using tablets and mobile devices when visiting our website and the new site looks incredible on mobile devices!

(https://i.imgur.com/6B7b4Qe.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/uGR4kEJ.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/i5Sv44g.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/BzIl6sc.png)

Minimum Recommended Specs:
1Ghz processor
768mb ram
8gb HDD/SD
VGA screen capable of 1024x768 resolution
DVD drive or USB port for the ISO image

Preferred Specs:
1.5GHz processor+
1024mb ram+
20gb HDD/SSD+
VGA, DVI or HDMI screen capable of 1366x768 resolution+
DVD drive or USB port for the ISO image

If the screen locks during Live mode, type linux into the user box and click on the Login button (no password required)

Login to the live desktop is automatic.

The first thing you MUST do after a fresh install of Linux Lite is run Menu, Favorites, Install Updates.

(https://i.imgur.com/KlX83dG.png)

Thank you community, you guys are the best! :)

Jerry and the team.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: elelme on May 31, 2020, 07:19:11 PM
And already flawlessly installed and operating.
THANKS again, as always, for getting the job done.
Stay healthy!
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Litefan on May 31, 2020, 08:14:31 PM
Installed very quickly and running smoothly. Faster than ever too. My thanks also.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jesse R Bassett on May 31, 2020, 11:26:07 PM
Using Linux Lite 5.0 right now. I love it and as my post in the desktop customization indicates, it is a cinnamon themed linux lite! Way to go Jerry! Hats off to you sir for a great version!
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: WytWun on June 01, 2020, 05:37:44 AM
Rufus, Yumi, Multiboot and other multi-boot applications are not supported.
Sorry, it seems to me that Rufus is incorrectly being described as a multi-boot application - I can find nothing on the Rufus home page (https://rufus.ie/en_IE.html) that indicates it is other than an ISO to USB flashing utility.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: nathg on June 01, 2020, 07:22:23 AM
I have had trouble using Etcher to create the bootable USB, twice it finished saying something went wrong and ended up with a USB stick that wouldn't boot.  In the end I used Unetbootin, downloaded and ran the 64bit binary to create it by following instructions on their website.

Anyone else having/had the same problems with using Etcher?
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jacob Pertou on June 01, 2020, 09:17:06 AM
Linux Lite 5.0 is really impressive and an overall improvement on an already great 4.8.
Installation om my new computer went really smooth. My old computer could not install it, yet it did install 5.0 RC1 with no problems.
My computer dual boots with Windows 10. I use LL for personal/hobby use. Windows at the University.

What I really like.
- That the iso file fits on a 3" DVD
- No screen tearing, unlike 4.8, where I had to google a solution for that
- Simple scan now works over network instead of USB cable.
- The selection of software is really nice
- My laptop's keyboard functions are nearly identical to those in Windows 10.
- Beautiful, uncluttered and holistic layout
- Windows/WINE applications can more easily be added to the panel.
- MP3 files now show the embedded artwork, instead of the icon
- 5.0 is generally a lot more user friendly to new users of Linux, than 4.8.

Things I noticed
- I simply couldn't get my HP3630 printer to work. Not a dealbreaker, I'll just print in Windows 10.
- When you use the brightness keys, a bell is showed, instead of the usual sun.
- The update icon in the taskbar is coloured, but should be the same colour as the rest. Also, I'd like to remove it, if possible.
- The icons on the desktop are named different, compared to the menus. It is easy to rename them, though.
- There is a not a Lite Upgrade in the Settings menu (yet).
- In the newly installed GRUB 2.04 the OS is listed as Ubuntu.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: danielson on June 01, 2020, 09:20:49 AM
Used Balena-Etcher without issues.
Did notice that the SanDisk usb device i use was always the best for such things.

- - - - -

Btw, kudos to the dev!!
Had tried L.L. a while back but this latest iteration is superduper!
As a fan of recent KDE versions, might have to re-consider XFCE...

Did have issues with Dropbox this a.m., but maybe it was because it's Monday.
Downloaded directly from their site not long ago.
Even if it said that it was available on L.L., persisted at installing the app and everything works well now.

The basic selection of apps and those installed are quite nice! :)

Hope to be in this for a while.

p.s. now if i can find a good file content search tool...
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 01, 2020, 09:32:53 AM
Linux Lite 5.0 is really impressive and an overall improvement on an already great 4.8.
Installation om my new computer went really smooth. My old computer could not install it, yet it did install 5.0 RC1 with no problems.
My computer dual boots with Windows 10. I use LL for personal/hobby use. Windows at the University.

What I really like.
- That the iso file fits on a 3" DVD
- No screen tearing, unlike 4.8, where I had to google a solution for that
- Simple scan now works over network instead of USB cable.
- The selection of software is really nice
- My laptop's keyboard functions are nearly identical to those in Windows 10.
- Beautiful, uncluttered and holistic layout
- Windows/WINE applications can more easily be added to the panel.
- MP3 files now show the embedded artwork, instead of the icon
- 5.0 is generally a lot more user friendly to new users of Linux, than 4.8.

Things I noticed
- I simply couldn't get my HP3630 printer to work. Not a dealbreaker, I'll just print in Windows 10.
- When you use the brightness keys, a bell is showed, instead of the usual sun.
- The update icon in the taskbar is coloured, but should be the same colour as the rest. Also, I'd like to remove it, if possible.
- The icons on the desktop are named different, compared to the menus. It is easy to rename them, though.
- There is a not a Lite Upgrade in the Settings menu (yet).
- In the newly installed GRUB 2.04 the OS is listed as Ubuntu.

- I simply couldn't get my HP3630 printer to work. Not a dealbreaker, I'll just print in Windows 10. Shouldn't be difficult, full support has been around for some time for that model.
- When you use the brightness keys, a bell is showed, instead of the usual sun. I'll have to check that on my HP laptop.
- The update icon in the taskbar is coloured, but should be the same colour as the rest. Also, I'd like to remove it, if possible. Deliberate contrast to highlight the importance of keeping your system up to date.
- The icons on the desktop are named different, compared to the menus. It is easy to rename them, though. Given our target audience are Windows users, the naming approach is accurate.
- There is a not a Lite Upgrade in the Settings menu (yet). Why would there be in the first version? It would make no sense at all to include it until it has a use.
- In the newly installed GRUB 2.04 the OS is listed as Ubuntu. See release announcement, for this is mentioned.

Thanks for your feedback.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: TMG1961 on June 01, 2020, 01:42:35 PM
I downloaded the iso file several times. Did the md5sum check and its ok all the time. Used 6 different usb sticks but i keep getting the error “Something went wrong. If it is compressed image, please check that the archive is not corrupted”. after etcher finished flashing the drive. Any idea what i can do to get an error free flash? I also tried different versions of Etcher, but all with the same error message.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: k0nsl on June 01, 2020, 02:03:24 PM
Hi team,

I am excited and happy about this new release, appears to be a a feature-rich update. However, I haven't tried it yet. The only downside I can see, is that there's no upgrade path, even running latest LL. But nevertheless, I will install LL 5.0 once I have some time and taken care of some other things.

Thank you.

Faithfully,
-k0nsl
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: newtusmaximus on June 01, 2020, 02:41:59 PM
All good. Iso downloaded without hitch.  Had to take two tries to get etcher to successfully do USB.
Install from USB - quick and trouble free including updates.  Laptop Si1520 3GB RAM Intel twincore - One partition
Like Dark Theme option  Fast and smooth :)
Spot on again team!!
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: trinidad on June 01, 2020, 02:59:05 PM
@k0nsl

"The most thought-provoking thing in our thought-provoking time is that we are still not thinking."

Take a hike. You're not funny.

TC
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: kissbaby3 on June 01, 2020, 04:16:42 PM
installed quickly, just a funny image showing up while booting up, does the same thing if i restart the desktp pc. thats all i notice so far so i put up a new post on it with a video link so you can see what i am talking about, hoping some one will check it out, its under "Installing linux lite"

titled "Linux Lite 5.0 64bit , funny start up, and restart after full install"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xlaxiV46q8
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: TMG1961 on June 01, 2020, 04:25:11 PM
After a lot of problems during the day i was finally able to get a usb stick to boot windows 10 and then was able to create a usb stick with LL 5.0 and it installed.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Moltke on June 01, 2020, 05:20:15 PM
Rufus, Yumi, Multiboot and other multi-boot applications are not supported.
Sorry, it seems to me that Rufus is incorrectly being described as a multi-boot application - I can find nothing on the Rufus home page (https://rufus.ie/en_IE.html) that indicates it is other than an ISO to USB flashing utility.

I don't think it is. I think the post is referring to some other tools that do allow the creation of multiboot  USBs and Rufus is just mentioned as not supported.   
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: newtusmaximus on June 01, 2020, 05:27:49 PM
My original post (above )was made before rebooting the laptop  LAN connection.

 On rebooting - logging on password ( upper and low cases) worked as expected.   However unable to Verify action such as Lite tweaks or install zoom.deb or access add/delete software
BUT was able to set up wifi passwords to two separate routers

 Keyboard language English (UK) throughout,
Keyboard settings
Number lock reset on restart unticked 
Keyboard model Fujitsu Amilo laptop  - These settings usually work fine on this Fuji lasptop  As with LL4.6
Keyboard layout English UK   

Not sure what is going on  Any ideas welcomed.
PS.  On installing I had used the keyboard identification routine - yes/no to various symbols
Jerry PLEASE DELETE THIS. Now on Installation section. Sorry and thanks.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Thaddeus_Pi on June 01, 2020, 09:23:49 PM
Is it possible to upgrade from 4.x or does it have to be a clean install?
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Moltke on June 01, 2020, 10:07:25 PM
Is it possible to upgrade from 4.x or does it have to be a clean install?

As stated in the release announcement post
Quote
There is no upgrade path to or from RC releases.
There is no upgrade path from Series 2, 3 or 4 ( 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8 | 3.0, 3.2, 3.4, 3.6, 3.8 | 4.0, 4.2, 4.4, 4.6, 4. 8 ) to Series 5.

So, no, it's not possible and yes, it has to be a full clean install.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Thaddeus_Pi on June 01, 2020, 10:31:59 PM
Thanks, I should have read those more closely.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: k0nsl on June 01, 2020, 11:18:38 PM
Projecting much?  ::)

-k0nsl

@k0nsl

"The most thought-provoking thing in our thought-provoking time is that we are still not thinking."

Take a hike. You're not funny.

TC
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 01, 2020, 11:43:34 PM
Not here please fellas, take it elsewhere. Cheers.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jacob Pertou on June 02, 2020, 02:41:44 AM
Thanks for your feedback.

I apologize for being a noob, and for writing before reading the original post! Of course, everything you say make sense, and that's why I really like Linux Lite. I got the printer working. Apparently, it was a firmware issue (https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/690470).
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 02, 2020, 02:44:49 AM
Thanks @Jacob Pertou and thank you to everyone for posting some excellent feedback in this thread. I read every post and take note of what you say, even if I don't acknowledge you individually, so thank you all :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 02, 2020, 02:54:49 AM
A few years ago, 3000 visitors to the site in one day was considered huge and only happened around release time. In the last 24 hours, over 17,000 people have visited the Forums. That blows me away!
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: hjevets on June 02, 2020, 03:08:25 AM
EDIT: Regarding printer setup, I since saw the possibly related post 51759 in Printing and Scanning forum section,so will read further there.

Thank you, Linux Lite maintainers. From what I've seen so far, this is an excellent operating system, very well suited to your target audience of those most used to MS-Windows, but equally good for others. Great job.
I've installed Linux Lite 5.0 to a Dell Optiplex 9020 SFF desktop (i5-4570) and to an HP ENVY m6 laptop (i7-3632QM). I had previously installed Linux Lite 4.8 to the Optiplex. Though I haven't yet tested extensively with version 5.0, it so far looks very good to use; however, a couple of things I noticed in Jacob Pertou's earlier post, and also saw myself, made me decide it is worthwhile to comment now, before I can have a deeper look in a few days time.

[...]
Things I noticed
- I simply couldn't get my HP3630 printer to work. Not a dealbreaker, I'll just print in Windows 10.
- When you use the brightness keys, a bell is showed, instead of the usual sun.
[...]

- I simply couldn't get my HP3630 printer to work. Not a dealbreaker, I'll just print in Windows 10. Shouldn't be difficult, full support has been around for some time for that model.
- When you use the brightness keys, a bell is showed, instead of the usual sun. I'll have to check that on my HP laptop.
[...]

Printer setup: I also didn't get this working yet from either machine in v5.0, though setup worked without hitch using the Configure Printer tool in v4.8. It finds (twice) the network printer (a Canon MB5160) but when trying to connect as "IPP network printer via DNS-SD" I got "CUPS server error There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'server-error-internal-error.'"
Brightness scale: I also get the bell rather than the sun.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: TMG1961 on June 02, 2020, 03:30:54 AM
Not sure if it is a bug or just normal. In 4.8 when i hovered cursor over the battery tray icon it showed battery percentage. Now in 5.0 it doesnt, i need to right click to see at what percentage battery is. Is it possible to have the battery percentage below firewall in the widget?
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 02, 2020, 03:46:33 AM
Not sure if it is a bug or just normal. In 4.8 when i hovered cursor over the battery tray icon it showed battery percentage. Now in 5.0 it doesnt, i need to right click to see at what percentage battery is.


Use the 'Power Manager Plugin' add-on from the Panel, that works just fine here for hovering and is more configurable.

 

Is it possible to have the battery percentage below firewall in the widget?

I'll consider adding that in the future, no promises though. It's easy to just add more and more to that Widget but there needs to be a limit.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 02, 2020, 03:51:52 AM

- When you use the brightness keys, a bell is showed, instead of the usual sun.


I get the Sun here on my HP ZBook 15
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 02, 2020, 03:55:01 AM
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Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 02, 2020, 03:57:38 AM
PLEASE REPORT ANY BUGS/QUESTIONS IN THE APPROPRIATE FORUM SECTION FOR THIS AND FUTURE LL RELEASES.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: TMG1961 on June 02, 2020, 04:59:28 AM
Not sure if it is a bug or just normal. In 4.8 when i hovered cursor over the battery tray icon it showed battery percentage. Now in 5.0 it doesnt, i need to right click to see at what percentage battery is.


Use the 'Power Manager Plugin' add-on from the Panel, that works just fine here for hovering and is more configurable.

 

Is it possible to have the battery percentage below firewall in the widget?
Not sure if it is a bug or just normal. In 4.8 when i hovered cursor over the battery tray icon it showed battery percentage. Now in 5.0 it doesnt, i need to right click to see at what percentage battery is.


Use the 'Power Manager Plugin' add-on from the Panel, that works just fine here for hovering and is more configurable.

I don't like that plugin. The font is too big and it is Bold. I can't change it
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 02, 2020, 10:23:53 AM
Those who have had Etcher fails, what OS version and what Etcher version was it?

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Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: TMG1961 on June 02, 2020, 11:04:04 AM
OS verssion was 4.8 and i tried etcher 1.5.56 -1.5.59 and 1.5.95 al gave me the error. ersion 1.5.95 for windows worked fine in windows 10
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: torreydale on June 02, 2020, 12:18:21 PM
@Jacob Pertou ,


For your printer, consider following the manual on Printing first:  https://linuxliteos.com/manual/hardware.html#printer


If that doesn't work, try connecting to it with a USB cord before connecting via a network connection, whether that be wired or wirelessly.


If that doesn't work, go to Install/Remove programs and install HPLIP.


If that doesn't work, try going to the HP site at https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/identify?q=3630&filter=&origin=drivers&devicetype=printer&type=printers
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jacob Pertou on June 02, 2020, 12:22:55 PM
@torreydale Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it. I got it to work this morning. I read somewhere I could update the firmware in Windows10, and that seemed to do the trick.

EDIT 2020-06-04: More things to like
The 1920x1080 screen resolution is great. I can see everything I do, without any modifications. Brilliant!
The USB DAC I have, finally seem to like the OS I use. No noticable glitches! Windows 10? Forget about it!
The GRUB per default suggests the recently used OS after restarting.
No more accidental right clicks - for some I reason, in 4.8 I kept making accidental .backup files, when I right-clicked a file.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: UltraCookie on June 04, 2020, 09:40:42 AM
Just did the upgrade. Etcher did not work for me but dd worked fine. Upgrade went well and so far no errors or bugs.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 04, 2020, 09:51:25 AM
I've filed a bug report with Etcher, they said they will fix it. In the meantime, I need screenshots of the error when it appears.

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Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: WytWun on June 05, 2020, 11:05:14 AM
I'm relieved to report that 5.0 final installed on my Lenovo Ideapad 100S without the boot config writing failure I reported encountering with the RC.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 05, 2020, 05:31:05 PM
@hjevets and @Jacob Pertou please try this for your 'showing bell' issue.

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get remove notify-osd notify-osd-icons
Log out and in again.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jacob Pertou on June 05, 2020, 05:41:38 PM
It worked! Thank you! 8)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 05, 2020, 05:43:21 PM
It worked! Thank you! 8)

Awesome, I'm hoping it doesn't stop Install Update notifications. Please let me know over the next few days if it does or doesn't. Cheers :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 05, 2020, 05:48:39 PM
@Jacob Pertou further to my last post. It looks like it doesn't but to confirm, please do Menu, Favorites, Install Updates, let it get the list then when the list shows, cancel it. Then wait for the next Updates notification to come through and let me know please.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jacob Pertou on June 05, 2020, 05:58:46 PM
Awesome, I'm hoping it doesn't stop Install Update notifications. Please let me know over the next few days if it does or doesn't. Cheers :)

I have them disabled (I prefer to do it manually), so it's all good at my end.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: hjevets on June 05, 2020, 08:43:52 PM
@Jerry

@hjevets and @Jacob Pertou please try this for your 'showing bell' issue.

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get remove notify-osd notify-osd-icons
Log out and in again.

Thank you, yes, that fixed my "showing bell" issue.
I'll tell you if I notice Install Update notifications cease to work.

Regarding setup in LL5.0 for Canon MB5160 printer/scanner...
Scanning works out of the box in LL5.0.
Drivers/utilities packages can be downloaded from Canon websites for regions that distribute that model printer, e.g. https://www.canon.co.nz/printers/maxify-mb5160/support?option=drivers. The scanner package installs without issue, though it's not needed anyway. The printer package needs libcupsimage2, which I installed from the Ubuntu repositories using apt, then installed the Canon printer package (which also runs a utility to setup a printer) and all worked without issue.

Ngā mihi.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 07, 2020, 03:27:29 AM
FYI all - https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/issues/3198
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 08, 2020, 02:33:17 AM
After some very sensible suggestions, the following will be updated soon...

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Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Aussie on June 08, 2020, 07:45:39 PM
My screen is loading up unreadable on a  HP laptop. I loaded Lite three times to be sure.
I tried to post here with a picture but that will not work, if anyone wants a picture please email me.
I am also getting the wrong characters when I use shift plus a number.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 08, 2020, 10:52:42 PM
Those wanting extra screensavers:

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install xscreensaver-data
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: kissbaby3 on June 09, 2020, 02:18:56 PM
My screen is loading up unreadable on a  HP laptop. I loaded Lite three times to be sure.
I tried to post here with a picture but that will not work, if anyone wants a picture please email me.
I am also getting the wrong characters when I use shift plus a number.

if you have a youtube account, then take your smart phone, use the camera thats on it , record from start to finish of your HP laptop, sometimes watching something in video gives more of a idea of what might be going on, thats what i did , on my Asus desktop 64bit PC, it would show a funny mixed image while booting up, also shows it when i restart it, after it finished it was fine, but does this every time , so i decided to do another fresh install of Linux lite 5.0, but before i did that..... i disabled secure boot , (dont do this) the results were the same, a few days later , i re-enabled(turned back on) secure boot, it still was the same, ha ha , just me messing around on my pc, it never did this on Linux lite 3 or 4 series , so maybe when the next update for example linux lite 5.2(or what ever) it will get fixed. it happens,
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: kissbaby3 on June 09, 2020, 02:22:56 PM
After some very sensible suggestions, the following will be updated soon...

(https://i.imgur.com/4FBotm5.gif)

nice :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: thoughtinstinct on June 13, 2020, 03:42:18 PM
First free weekend and finally installed LL 5.0 . Thanks to all involved, you did an excellent job !
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: thoughtinstinct on June 13, 2020, 03:48:15 PM

 

Is it possible to have the battery percentage below firewall in the widget?

I'll consider adding that in the future, no promises though. It's easy to just add more and more to that Widget but there needs to be a limit.
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Anyway for the user to add such stuff if s/he prefers to? Thanks in adavance
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on June 17, 2020, 07:01:43 AM
Finally got around to upgrading to 5.0 from 3.8 and have to say, loving it so far :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Tyrannocaster on July 12, 2020, 01:14:03 PM
Sorry to see that Cherry Tree won't work with it. I have TONS of chapters of notes in Cherry Tree. But if it won't work, it won't work.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Şerban S. on July 12, 2020, 04:34:19 PM
Sorry to see that Cherry Tree won't work with it. I have TONS of chapters of notes in Cherry Tree. But if it won't work, it won't work.

Hi!
Linux Lite has nothing to do with this!

https://www.giuspen.com/cherrytree/#downl

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debian/ubuntu package (NOT FOR UBUNTU 20.04/DEBIAN UNSTABLE, NEW GTKMM3 VERSION COMING SOON, USE SNAP or FLATPAK PACKAGE)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Tyrannocaster on July 13, 2020, 08:58:35 AM
I installed Zim and will give it a try. The advantage to Cherry Tree is that it runs on Windows and also Mac (I have those OS, too), so the data can be swapped from machine to machine easily by just copying the CherryTree data file.

[Later] Looks like Zim will run on Windows and Mac, though I imagine my old Mac's OS is not supported. Biggest hangup for me with Zim is that the colors (font, background, etc) are not user-changeable, and it boots up with defaults that are hard to read on my customized LL system.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Şerban S. on July 13, 2020, 09:46:45 AM
Hi, again! :)   
Glad you found something that works!

I installed Zim and will give it a try.

I took a look into this piece of software.
Sounds interesting.
The idea that crossed my mind is IF it exports in .xml, maybe all your work might be portable.
I took a quick look at Cherry Tree.
It's quite very advanced so, I guess even if you open an .xml, some formatting will get lost due to the lack of support in the Zim core app.

Since I'm the visual kind of student, Cherry Tree looks to me more convincing that the Slackware aproach found in Zim...
On the other hand, making a dual boot machine for the sole purpose of having Cherry Tree...
Maybe if you make a heavy use of this, a better solution would be to get back to LL 4.8, until Cherry Tree gets ready for the Ubuntu 20.04 version.
This often happens, I'm also waiting for the FSLint to release a suitable version for Ub 20.04...

[...] [Later] Looks like Zim will run on Windows and Mac, though I imagine my old Mac's OS is not supported. Biggest hangup for me with Zim is that the colors (font, background, etc) are not user-changeable, and it boots up with defaults that are hard to read on my customized LL system.

https://zim-wiki.org/manual/Help/Export.html (https://zim-wiki.org/manual/Help/Export.html)

Now, comparing the two, I guess it's too much of a trouble to use Zim.
It's easier to revert to Lite 4.8, then move back to LL 5.0 when Cherry Tree gets ready for 20.04.
As far as I could figure by now, too many compatibility problems between the two.
I would also opt for Cherry Tree instead of anything else.
The more I read about, the less I can figure out how to replace it... Way too complex and... "All-In-One"...
It's more of an Archive management tool than "Note taking".
Plus... runs on whatever OS?! I'd have a hard time myself to give it up!

Best thoughts! :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 5.0 Final Released
Post by: Tyrannocaster on July 13, 2020, 09:52:10 AM
Yes, i decided to just stick with 4.8, since it works for me. Maybe Cherry Tree will address this; seems like the dev would be under some pressure (even if only internally) to do this.

Zim isn't bad at all, but the lack of user-control over colors is a real problem on my system. I suspect that won't bother people who have not changed the way LL looks.