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Title: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on January 13, 2020, 04:33:51 AM
Release Announcement

Linux Lite 4.8 Final is now available for download and installation.

We would like to take this opportunity to welcome all Windows 7 people who have come here to find a simple, fast and free alternative to Windows 7 which has reached its end of life and no longer provides security updates. Linux Lite makes the transition to a linux based operating system by offering a full, Microsoft compatible Office suite, familiar software like Firefox, Chrome, Teamviewer, VLC as well as full system back up tools, a comprehensive - easy to follow Help Manual to guide you on your journey, Steam so you can keep playing your Windows games and so much more familiar software. Our Desktop is laid out just like it is in Windows with a Start Menu to the left and a tray to the right with Volume, Network and Calendar options, with familiar Desktop icons that take you exactly where you want to go on your system.

(https://i.imgur.com/CWw36Uw.png)

This release has been moved forward from the usual date of February 1st 2020, to coincide with the end of life for Windows 7.


Changes:

Welcome Windows 7 people!

We want to provide you with a familiar home. What you can expect from Linux Lite:

- A Desktop, taskbar and tray that have a familiar layout.
- You get a fully featured FREE Microsoft compatible Office Suite in the form of LibreOffice.
- The option to run familiar software such as Steam, DropBox, Kodi, OBS Studio, Skype, Spotify, Teamviewer all from within our Lite Software application.
- A Welcome screen that greets you at first boot and makes setting up your Linux Lite install a breeze. Just click and go.
- A Hardware Database containing over 30,000 existing pc configurations that is searchable. Will my hardware run Linux Lite? Look here - https://www.linuxliteos.com/hardware.php (https://www.linuxliteos.com/hardware.php)
- A friendly, welcoming Support Forum that will always do it's best to find you answers.
- A massive, searchable built-in and online Help Manual that covers all aspects of setting up, troubleshooting and working with Linux Lite.
- A bundled powerful image editor Gimp that many refer to as a Photoshop competitor FREE in Linux Lite.
- Familiar Desktop icons that get you quickly to where you want to go.
- And so much more.

Windows 7 Customized Wallpaper: In the build-up to this announcement, a hint was given as to how we would look out-of-the-box to people coming across from Windows. People are greeted internationally with Welcome in dozens of languages. There are 2 critical elements in the wallpaper that I want people to look for that specifically pertain to Microsoft and Windows 7. Post your guess in this thread. All those who guess correctly will go into a draw to win some Linux Lite swag. Competition will run for 2 weeks and will be announced here in this thread.

VirtualBox Support: Out-of-the-box VirtualBox support for YouTube/Online Journalist reviewers and testers has been withdrawn. This was done to remove one more potential boot-up slow down from the list of variables. And there were cases where this has been a PITA for many users. If you are reviewing or testing, install Linux Lite to the VM then do:

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11
after a fresh install. You will then have the full experience that VirtualBox provides. I'm sorry, but the majority of users came first in this specific case. This will be the norm going forward into Series 5.x and beyond.

(https://i.imgur.com/v7qF6Rx.png)

Going forward: Series 5.x will run the XFCE Desktop Environment and will inherit all permanent features from previous Series. UEFI & SecureBoot is a serious consideration, but nothing is final on that topic at this stage.

Screenshots:

Welcome

(https://i.imgur.com/5WJ4XmX.png)

Office

(https://i.imgur.com/PaPikFv.png)

Desktop

(https://i.imgur.com/lemfkPa.png)

Help Manual

(https://i.imgur.com/FbMSl5O.png)


Details:

Browser: Firefox: 71.0 Quantum
Email: Thunderbird: 68.2.2
Office Suite: LibreOffice: 6.0.7.3
Media Player: VLC: 3.0.8
Image Editor: Gimp: 2.10.14
System Backup: Timeshift 19.08.1

Kernel: 4.15.0-74 (custom kernels also available via our Repository for versions 3.13 - 5.4)
Base: 18.04.3

Known Issues:

None as yet.


Upgrading

> Menu, Favorites, Install Updates (you must reboot if asked to, otherwise continue to the next step)
> Set a Restore Point - Menu, System, Timeshift
> Menu, Settings, Lite Upgrade
> Reboot


Having problems upgrading? First thing to do is open a terminal, and make sure you have the latest version of Lite Upgrade.

Code: [Select]
apt policy lite-upgrade-series4
should return:

Code: [Select]
  Installed: 4.0-0050-linuxlite
  Candidate: 4.0-0050-linuxlite

If you've ran Install Updates and still don't have this version or greater you can either - wait 24 hours, or change to the default Linux Lite repository in Lite Sources.

Lite Upgrade - What it will do:

- New Lite Help Manual
- New Lite Upgrade
- New Lite Welcome
- New Wallpaper

Lite Upgrade - What it won't do:

- Nothing to list.

There is no upgrade path to or from Beta or RC releases.
There is no upgrade path from Series 2 or 3 ( 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8 | 3.0, 3.2, 3.4, 3.6, 3.8 ) to Series 4.

LINUX LITE VIDEO - OVERVIEW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUnK8Mwg3K4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUnK8Mwg3K4)

LINUX LITE VIDEO - INSTALLATION

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c93Wjj3fOHo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c93Wjj3fOHo)

INSTALLATION GUIDE:

https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/install.html (https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/install.html)

DOWNLOADS:

How do I know which download to choose, LEGACY or UEFI/Secureboot:?

In Windows Search, type msinfo and launch the desktop app named System Information. Look for the BIOS Mode item, and if the value for it is UEFI, then you have the UEFI firmware. If it says BIOS Mode Legacy, then thatís the firmware youíre running. Also, in general, UEFI-enabled machines have faster startup and shutdown times as compared to BIOS-Legacy machines. If you bought the computer/motherboard after 2010, chances are you have a UEFI system. If you are still unsure, download the UEFI version as it will also detect and run on a BIOS-Legacy computer.

(https://i.imgur.com/NG3F1Hf.png)

LEGACY (DEFAULT):

Download 64bit from here - Linux Lite 4.8 64bit (https://osdn.net/dl/linuxlite/linux-lite-4.8-64bit.iso)
md5sum: 3c9b8e5a2341fdee7882642d98ad6266
Size: 1.4Gb (DVD, USB)

UEFI/Secureboot:

Download 64bit from here - Linux Lite 4.2 64bit (http://repo.linuxliteos.com/uefitests/4.2/linux-lite-4.2-uefi-64bit.iso)
md5sum: 9355c9fd685eb0d4a30310f43cf82304
Size: 1.4Gb (DVD, USB)

Download then upgrade easily to Linux Lite 4.8
Ensure UEFI & Secureboot are enabled in your BIOS. It already will be for most set ups from 2010 onwards.

LEGACY TORRENT: (Fastest way to download the Final)

64bit Torrent from here - linux-lite-4.8-64bit.iso.torrent (https://www.linuxliteos.com/torrent/linux-lite-4.8-64bit.iso.torrent)
Hash: 45e6734304c0fd767c72801363b312689cda0f2c
Size: 1.4Gb (DVD, USB)

International Mirrors (city specific) - https://www.linuxliteos.com/mirrors.php (https://www.linuxliteos.com/mirrors.php) (wait for page to load, some mirrors may still be syncing with us)

Live USB/DVD/VirtualBox/Vmware:

Login is automatic, no credentials are required. The image can be written to a 2gb or larger USB stick, or a writable DVD. Alternatively, you can use the dd command: sudo dd if=linux-lite-4.8-64bit.iso of=/dev/sdx bs=4M where 'x' is the letter of your usb stick. In linux to find out the letter of your usb stick, open a terminal and type: df -h It is usually listed as 'media' or similar. Please see the built in Help Manual if you require a more detailed explanation of this procedure.

Yumi, Multiboot and other multi-boot applications are not supported.

BURN THE ISO:

A good, simple point and click USB ISO burner for Mac, Linux & Windows is https://etcher.io/ (https://etcher.io/)

(https://i.imgur.com/yBKI2JK.png)

If the screen locks during Live mode, type linux into the user box and click on the Login button (no password required)

Minimum Recommended Specs:
1Ghz processor
768mb ram
8gb HDD/SD
VGA screen capable of 1024x768 resolution
DVD drive or USB port for the ISO image

Preferred Specs:
1.5GHz processor+
1024mb ram+
20gb HDD/SSD+
VGA, DVI or HDMI screen capable of 1366x768 resolution+
DVD drive or USB port for the ISO image

Login to the live desktop is automatic.

The first thing you MUST do after a fresh install of Linux Lite is run Menu, Favorites, Install Updates.


Thank you all for your support throughout Series 4.x Can't wait to build another exciting, free operating system for you this year in the form of Series 5.x !

Jerry and the team.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: DeepThought on January 13, 2020, 05:31:28 AM
Upgraded from 4.6 to 4.8 using Lite-Upgrade without any problems.
Upgrade was done within a few minutes and all is looking good :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: TMG1961 on January 13, 2020, 09:29:02 AM
Upgraded without a problem.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Moltke on January 13, 2020, 11:48:33 AM
First of all, congratulations! Will try sometime this week since I'm still running 3.8. :)

Quote
There are 2 critical elements in the wallpaper that I want people to look for that specifically pertain to Microsoft and Windows 7. Post your guess in this thread. All those who guess correctly will go into a draw to win some Linux Lite swag. Competition will run for 2 weeks and will be announced here in this thread.

Hmmm... shining effect and the white lines? Don't know whether they're just one or two things but windows' 7 wallpaper looks just the same. If they're one thing toguether then it's the shining effect and the white lines + background color, other than that I don't see anything else pertaining W7. where's my swag? lol
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Artim on January 13, 2020, 03:38:04 PM
Congratulations on this release.  Making Linux look like Windows is anathema to me, as I want my desktop to be as different from Windows as possible!  But Linux Lite is definitely my choice for newbies coming from Windows to Linux for the first time. And it's so easy to make any changes I want to the Xfce desktop, I can have it looking as "Linuxy" as I like in a few mouse clicks.  I hope the Win7 end-of-life will bring many more users to Linux Lite.  Well done!
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: firenice03 on January 13, 2020, 04:38:23 PM
Nice easy upgrade as always!!
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: bonnevie on January 13, 2020, 04:43:17 PM
Well played, very well played, sir! 
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Sauri Extras on January 13, 2020, 07:16:17 PM
Upgrade done smoothly.

Thanks a lot Jerry. The update feels more smoother and faster than before. A commendable job on the update!  ;D
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Nyto on January 13, 2020, 09:12:23 PM
Thank you, Jerry and team, for a seamless, painless, fast, straightforward upgrade.
I went through the "Menu - Settings - Lite Upgrade" route and voila!


Now, regarding the "two critical elements in the wallpaper perttaining to Windows", well, it is based on the wallpaper of the venerable Windows 7 Starter Edition AND on the wallpaper from thew Windows 7 Home Basic Edition, and the Windoze logo was replaced by the LL "feather" logo.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: firenice03 on January 13, 2020, 10:49:45 PM
Another updated -- EASY!!!

I would agree the LL "Welcome" wallpaper is a Win7 throwback - *Nice touch...

As for the 2nd ---
All the color feather wallpapers... are a represention of the MS colors/logo ... Almost to a T - LOL


  (http://imgur.com/QTB4WmLl.png)
 (http://i.imgur.com/QTB4WmL.png)

  (http://imgur.com/3HVc9HYl.png)
 (http://i.imgur.com/3HVc9HY.png)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on January 13, 2020, 11:44:24 PM
Two critical elements - I thought we would be a lot closer by now, so I'll have to give out one small clue and then wait for the competition to end.
Clue - all l can say as that a lot of people have already guessed one of the critical elements :) If no one gets both, then I'll just make up the draw of all that correctly guessed the one element.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: WytWun on January 14, 2020, 05:36:09 AM
Jerry,

I would just observe, as someone who has stuck with Windows 7 on several machines rather than upgrade to 10, that one of the bigger jarring experiences I find (in all Linux desktop distros I've tried, not just LL) is the inconsistency in scrollbar behaviour between applications.  I quite appreciate that Windows 8 onwards started to adopt some of the scrollbar "fancy" behaviours apparent in most Linux desktops, but most applications I've used on Windows 7 still use the more "classic" approach of buttons at the end for fine control and "chunk" movement with clicking in the vacant control space (rather than clicking to move to the point proportionate to the click location in the range).  I wouldn't mind so much if all the major applications behaved the same (though I find the behaviour of many instances very annoying as fine control is effectively impossible with large data ranges) but they don't; nor do many of the worst offending applications track the behaviour illustrated in the appearance settings either :(.

That UI gripe notwithstanding, I still stick with LL for my Linux desktops as I've not yet found any distro that better suits me - so many thanks for what you have achieved!
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: ejc on January 14, 2020, 08:03:42 AM
Jerry,

I would just observe, as someone who has stuck with Windows 7 on several machines rather than upgrade to 10, that one of the bigger jarring experiences I find (in all Linux desktop distros I've tried, not just LL) is the inconsistency in scrollbar behaviour between applications.  I quite appreciate that Windows 8 onwards started to adopt some of the scrollbar "fancy" behaviours apparent in most Linux desktops, but most applications I've used on Windows 7 still use the more "classic" approach of buttons at the end for fine control and "chunk" movement with clicking in the vacant control space (rather than clicking to move to the point proportionate to the click location in the range).  I wouldn't mind so much if all the major applications behaved the same (though I find the behaviour of many instances very annoying as fine control is effectively impossible with large data ranges) but they don't; nor do many of the worst offending applications track the behaviour illustrated in the appearance settings either :(.

That UI gripe notwithstanding, I still stick with LL for my Linux desktops as I've not yet found any distro that better suits me - so many thanks for what you have achieved!

Very true! Could a topic be started on that and on what Artim is stating upthread? Some examples of a quick way to change the fonts/size with the actual clicks would be welcome.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: ejc on January 14, 2020, 09:36:04 AM
Suggestion for the 5. *** Lite Software
please add Brave
https://snapcraft.io/install/brave/mint
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on January 14, 2020, 11:05:06 AM
Thank you all for the Upgrade info. To be honest that stuff gets easier and easier as we approach a stage where we are almost feature complete. Then it becomes just adding stuff for the sake of News.

I'll open up a 5.x suggestions thread as I always do in the coming weeks/months. But for now, let's enjoy discussing this release :) FYI we have a record number of visitors to the Forums the last 2 days, looks like Windows folk heard our message :) Remember, we are not trying to replicate Windows, simply make the transition as painless as possible. To strike a balance between look, function and expectation.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Linuxkumpel on January 14, 2020, 03:48:41 PM
Wonderful, upgrade without problems, everything works. Many thanks and greetings from Germany.  ;D
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: firenice03 on January 14, 2020, 08:13:58 PM
So critical #2 ?? @Jerry
Not all the phrases don't translate to Welcome...??...  ??? ???


Specifically a Kurdish -- not that I speak any other language fluently but a friend says otherwise....   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on January 14, 2020, 10:30:28 PM
So critical #2 ?? @Jerry
Not all the phrases don't translate to Welcome...??...  ??? ???


Specifically a Kurdish -- not that I speak any other language fluently but a friend says otherwise....   ;D ;D ;D

Obviously, I can't say if you are right or not.
There will be at least I'm sure, a dozen or less what people will claim as 'critical elements' but I could only choose 2. So even though people may feel they are right, they still have to match the 2 that I have chosen.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: firenice03 on January 14, 2020, 10:58:08 PM
hhhmmmm - I'll keep looking LOL ...
Wanna get a chance on some swag!!!!!!


(https://static3.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Deadpool-Movie-Prop-Contest.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=480&h=250)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: newtusmaximus on January 15, 2020, 10:29:22 AM
All upgraded without problems re Fujitsu Si1520 3GB RAM. Running smoothly.  Congrats yet again to all:)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Nyto on January 15, 2020, 08:14:01 PM
I was just reading the "reader ratings" on the Distrowatch-dot-com web site, where one person writes down:

"...Linux Lite 4.8 is a Labyrinth of incomprehensibility. Perhaps computer Geeks can understand some of it? Quite unable to find Synaptic Package Manager or the equivalent of it..."

Sheeesh!  Sometimes humans are soo stupid!
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on January 15, 2020, 10:13:01 PM
I was just reading the "reader ratings" on the Distrowatch-dot-com web site, where one person writes down:

"...Linux Lite 4.8 is a Labyrinth of incomprehensibility. Perhaps computer Geeks can understand some of it? Quite unable to find Synaptic Package Manager or the equivalent of it..."

Sheeesh!  Sometimes humans are soo stupid!

Apparently, simply typing synaptic into the Menu requires a 180+ I.Q.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: trinidad on January 16, 2020, 07:33:04 AM
"Apparently, simply typing synaptic into the Menu requires a 180+ I.Q"

Must not be a Windows refugee. Jeez, LL is built for Windows users. There is no synaptic in Windows as far as I know. Hmmmm... there is no synaptic in wayland either. Maybe there is no synaptic in anything that starts with W. Good grief it's disappearing one letter at a time.   

TC
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: torreydale on January 16, 2020, 09:51:32 AM
I read the same thing and was perplexed when the writer commented, "Install/Remove Software" is completely unresponsive," immediately after commenting, "Quite unable to find Synaptic Package Manager or the equivalent of it."

They gave the distro 1 out of 10 stars of course.  On the question of whether their review was helpful, I voted "No."
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: FreddyM on January 17, 2020, 10:43:18 AM
Upgrade without problems, very fast and easy.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Abw on January 18, 2020, 03:23:28 PM
I tried the lite upgrade and it says I am at the latest 4.6. So is there a time period I must wait before I can upgrade or is there something else I must do? Thanks
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: firenice03 on January 18, 2020, 03:46:55 PM
@Abw


Make sure your system is update to date prior... Use Install Updates once done reboot if needed then Lite Upgrade....
Title: Re: Linux Lite 4.8 Final Released
Post by: Jerry on January 18, 2020, 04:54:43 PM
I tried the lite upgrade and it says I am at the latest 4.6. So is there a time period I must wait before I can upgrade or is there something else I must do? Thanks

There are step-by-step instructions in the announcement, plus a troubleshooting guide.