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Re: Recent Forum down time - Valtam - 08-22-2017
(08-22-2017, 12:39 PM)newtusmaximus link Wrote: Is a whip round needed to finance this server change?
Thank you for the suggestion [member=149]newtusmaximus[/member] , I usually just try to get by on Shop sales, Donations and Ad revenue.
Closer to the time we should do some fund raising. 2 dedicated servers for 1 year is approx. $480 each (one web server, one repo server)
I'm also thinking of getting a Business fibre connection at home and running 2 servers here. The up sides which are obvious, the down sides ofc lengthy power cuts etc which could be made reliable with a generator.
Plenty of time between now and then to make the right decision
Re: Recent Forum down time - trinidad - 08-22-2017
You're still ahead of the curve Jerry. Several other forums including Deb user forum have been slow to upgrade to new connection standard. This has been going on across the web since July.
TC
Re: Recent Forum down time - Valtam - 08-22-2017
Thanks TC. Which new connection standard are you referring to?
Re: Recent Forum down time - trinidad - 08-22-2017
I believe the issue is with implementations of "forward secrecy" in the IETF standard terms in Ubuntu.
TC
Re: Recent Forum down time - Valtam - 08-22-2017
Ok thanks.
Re: Recent Forum down time - newtusmaximus - 08-22-2017
Jerry,
Do you have a good working relationship with your local university IT department.?? Just a thought. AS you are a not for profit organisation/network Perhaps they would be prepared to host LL,. That might save your having to go to the expense and gain some reliability. ?? Some PR for the UNI in supporting a "social Service"
Re: Recent Forum down time - Valtam - 08-22-2017
[member=149]newtusmaximus[/member] no I am not.
Re: Recent Forum down time - Scott(0) - 08-22-2017
8) On a positive note, I can honestly say the forum is much faster and more responsive for me (in California).
Re: Recent Forum down time - newtusmaximus - 08-22-2017
I will reword that. LL is a not for profit project?
Re: Recent Forum down time - ralphy - 08-22-2017
Good to see the forums back online
Few thoughts:
Ubuntu 16.04.3 will be supported almost until 2022 so the project won't be missing much going with that. Based on my own experience, it is kinda messy to do in-place upgrades on servers. I wouldn't do it myself but then again I may not have the skills required to do it. My suggestion is to always fire up a separate box with the newest server version and migrate things over, and finally let the old box go once things are all in place (that's considering only a single server will run the services). There will be much more than just a webserver running in the box (webserver, cache, php, sql, failtoban, policies, backups, etc, etc. and things will likely break during a release upgrade (been there and done that - again, I may not have the skills required and it is always possible to "fix" things on the fly - I just don't dare to do it ever in production boxes for obvious reasons).
The cost mentioned to run each box is going to be a little higher in my humble opinion, although with the community support that can be archived. Also, there is the question whether to go with a web hosting control panel of some kind or just a plain bare metal deployment fully unmanaged (I prefer the later for fully dedicated boxes and services).
LL services are behind Cloudflare, so Cloudflare controls LL DNS which is one less thing to worry about plus a CDN certainly helps delivering optimized and cached files... but there is a cost for that service as well.
I would definitely not host it at home. The infrastructure just isn't there... there are datacenters for a reason. We're talking about a few thousands dollars up-front for no real benefit and a bunch of headaches in the long run.
Cheers all!