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Title: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: trinidad on October 10, 2022, 09:43:12 AM
Printer OEMs have begun to adapt standards for driverless printers because of the massive proliferation of cell phones and the need to print from those devices. This is a good thing for the future of desktop Linux printer compatibility given that Linux will be able to easily use those protocols without the need for printer specific proprietary drivers. Modern printers will all be changing to these protocols so Linux may finally be rid of OEM printer driver nuisance.
https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSDriverlessPrinting (https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSDriverlessPrinting)
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Title: Re: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: Şerban S. on October 10, 2022, 11:01:02 AM
Printer OEMs have begun to adapt standards for driverless printers because of the massive proliferation of cell phones and the need to print from those devices. This is a good thing for the future of desktop Linux printer compatibility given that Linux will be able to easily use those protocols without the need for printer specific proprietary drivers. Modern printers will all be changing to these protocols so Linux may finally be rid of OEM printer driver nuisance.
https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSDriverlessPrinting (https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSDriverlessPrinting)
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Thanks! :) It's good to know!
A few days ago, I saw a post regarding a Canon printer that stopped working. This should solve the problem.

Best regards! :)
Title: Re: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: Jerry on October 10, 2022, 01:12:58 PM
As long as it's easy for Grandma to plug-and-play her printer into a linux system, I'm all for it.
Title: Re: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: Şerban S. on October 10, 2022, 02:03:05 PM
As long as it's easy for Grandma to plug-and-play her printer into a linux system, I'm all for it.

Me too! :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: Redchief on October 10, 2022, 06:02:34 PM
I suppose it depends on what type of printing you plan to use it for? I am parcel to the older HP laserjet monochrome laser printers because that is what I'm used to. It does about 95% of plain black prints for practical use. I also own a small Xerox color phaser 6022 for economical color printing. All work nice on linux. In the past, inkjets would dry out if not used everyday.  Maybe there are better ones I don't know about.





As long as it's easy for Grandma to plug-and-play her printer into a linux system, I'm all for it.

Me too! :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: Şerban S. on October 10, 2022, 08:03:31 PM
I suppose it depends on what type of printing you plan to use it for? I am parcel to the older HP laserjet monochrome laser printers because that is what I'm used to. It does about 95% of plain black prints for practical use. I also own a small Xerox color phaser 6022 for economical color printing. All work nice on linux. In the past, inkjets would dry out if not used everyday.  Maybe there are better ones I don't know about.

Same here!
Mine is HP 1018 and it faithfully served me for the last 15 years!
Just like Jerry says:
"If it works, why change?"
I used jet printers too, for years. Those were cheaper, at the times. Printing heads, got clogged faster than I liked so, I had to learn how to overcome that.
Took me some time...
However, technology changes. Sometimes, faster than we like. We're often pushed towards "the new", like it or dislike it... Things move on, without asking "Do you like it?".
So, we need to now how to get along with what is available, at some point.
Getting rid of proprietary drivers, sounds great! :)

Best regards! :)
Title: Re: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: Redchief on October 10, 2022, 09:53:34 PM
Cool!......here's a small list of my printer collection past/present:

HP Laserjet 2200
HP Color Laserjet 4500
HP 1600 Color laser
HP Laserjet 5000 monochrome
HP Laserjet 8000 monochrome
HP Laserjet 9040DN monochrome
Xerox 6022 phaser color laser

All work great.


Same here!
Mine is HP 1018 and it faithfully served me for the last 15 years!
Just like Jerry says:
"If it works, why change?"
I used jet printers too, for years. Those were cheaper, at the times. Printing heads, got clogged faster than I liked so, I had to learn how to overcome that.
Took me some time...
However, technology changes. Sometimes, faster than we like. We're often pushed towards "the new", like it or dislike it... Things move on, without asking "Do you like it?".
So, we need to now how to get along with what is available, at some point.
Getting rid of proprietary drivers, sounds great! :)

Best regards! :)
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Title: Re: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: Jerry on October 11, 2022, 04:50:14 AM
I stick with HP for printing. It makes sense to support those, who support Linux in return.

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Title: Re: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: Şerban S. on October 11, 2022, 05:09:10 AM
[...]Xerox 6022 phaser color laser

All work great.

Great thanks for the tip!
I only used Canon LBP 5000 (a color laser printer).
The rest, were (ink) jet printers.

I've been asking myself a lot about Xerox phaser printers, but never got the guts to spent money on one. Let alone a color one. Cartridges are expensive enough to make you think more than twice before spending the bucks... Since any color printer (jet, too) uses at least three (a good one uses four though...), that skyrockets the expenses. In Romānia (my homeland...), a new color laser is about 30% cheaper than refilling the old one with new cartridges... Sometimes, you find "compatibles". Sometimes, you have to buy "the real thing" though...
Second Hand devices, on the other hand, for home use... I'd skip this path. For multifunctional devices, yes, but they have mass-printing-scanning capabilities and, obviously, you need more room for such one.

Best regards! :)
Title: Re: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: Redchief on October 11, 2022, 12:38:49 PM
When the little Xerox came out it was very cheap and how I ended up with one. $160.00 with shipping. The OEM cartridges are more expensive but these LED printers are easy to refill and a complete color kit can be bought for $20.00. My friend also bought one but his was on a wireless network and had trouble with his but I have printed a couple thousand pages on this one connected to ethernet no issues but bad refill cartridges from sketchy rebuilders.
I am not afraid of buying old HP laserjets. Big, heavy, and take up space but get they get work done when needed.

Good luck!



Great thanks for the tip!
I only used Canon LBP 5000 (a color laser printer).
The rest, were (ink) jet printers.

I've been asking myself a lot about Xerox phaser printers, but never got the guts to spent money on one. Let alone a color one. Cartridges are expensive enough to make you think more than twice before spending the bucks... Since any color printer (jet, too) uses at least three (a good one uses four though...), that skyrockets the expenses. In Romānia (my homeland...), a new color laser is about 30% cheaper than refilling the old one with new cartridges... Sometimes, you find "compatibles". Sometimes, you have to buy "the real thing" though...
Second Hand devices, on the other hand, for home use... I'd skip this path. For multifunctional devices, yes, but they have mass-printing-scanning capabilities and, obviously, you need more room for such one.

Best regards! :)
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Title: Re: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: vint on October 12, 2022, 10:57:17 AM
Well you know I have to give my 2 cents worth on this subject because of the trouble I've had with my Canon printer.  If I would have known I was going to be using a Linux OS 2 years ago I would have purchased one of the HP laser printers because they work on Linux out of the box without any problems from what I've read.  Stay away from Canon as they have a difficult process to install their Linux drivers that can make a Linux beginner grab a sledge hammer and beat the printer to death.  I have first hand knowledge of this frustration.
Title: Re: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: Redchief on October 12, 2022, 01:32:32 PM
No worries, if you are needing to print things and you only have the Canon printer, you can set up a small Windows system to run the Canon printer. Output your linux made files to PDF, then move file over to Windows pc for print output.

Good luck,


Well you know I have to give my 2 cents worth on this subject because of the trouble I've had with my Canon printer.  If I would have known I was going to be using a Linux OS 2 years ago I would have purchased one of the HP laser printers because they work on Linux out of the box without any problems from what I've read.  Stay away from Canon as they have a difficult process to install their Linux drivers that can make a Linux beginner grab a sledge hammer and beat the printer to death.  I have first hand knowledge of this frustration.
Title: Re: what kind of printer should I buy?
Post by: Redchief on October 14, 2022, 01:05:12 PM
Greetings. Since my last post I am unhappy to report since I have upgraded my pc and installed LL 6.0 I am so far not able to install the Xerox phaser 6022 drivers. It is connected via ethernet. Before, I was using it successfully on LL 5.4 with my other pc. Now it's a dead dinasour on LL 6.0 :banghead

The HP Laserjet 9040DN is working though on new system thankfully.

I am also a life long retired from printing and graphics man. I sometime miss the smell of real ink and solvents. Want to buy an offset?






[...]Xerox 6022 phaser color laser

All work great.

Great thanks for the tip!
I only used Canon LBP 5000 (a color laser printer).
The rest, were (ink) jet printers.

I've been asking myself a lot about Xerox phaser printers, but never got the guts to spent money on one. Let alone a color one. Cartridges are expensive enough to make you think more than twice before spending the bucks... Since any color printer (jet, too) uses at least three (a good one uses four though...), that skyrockets the expenses. In Romānia (my homeland...), a new color laser is about 30% cheaper than refilling the old one with new cartridges... Sometimes, you find "compatibles". Sometimes, you have to buy "the real thing" though...
Second Hand devices, on the other hand, for home use... I'd skip this path. For multifunctional devices, yes, but they have mass-printing-scanning capabilities and, obviously, you need more room for such one.

Best regards! :)