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Re: Update Failure this morning
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2021, 05:59:21 AM »
 

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Quote from: llite001 on February 24, 2021, 04:13:27 AM
[...] How do you plan your multi instance partitions? I got the recommendation from a webpage showing how to install multiple instances of Linux [...]

Hello!
It is a poor strategy that "recommended" one. The author, seems to be a rookie.
Here is the interesting part:
(1) Linux is capable to use the same SWAP partition, regardless the number or type of installation. So, you only need ONE SWAP PARTITION.
(2) Second aspect, is REUSING THE /home partition.
The last thing I would like, is to do again and again the same settings for all applications I am running. So, I use a /home partition. This holds all the specific config and user data for all apps I use.
(3) Now, let's go to the main issue: Any Linux distro, uses at most 14 GB of disk space, considering that you make a heavy use of lots of apps. Otherwise, it takes some 8 - 9 GB. So, You need at most 16 GB/ installation.
(4) At setup time, you need to set up the default mounted partitions. And here it comes the /home partition. Use it, without formatting. You need to know exactly the name of the partition (Say... /dev/sda6). In order to avoid heavy lifting trouble, I use the ext2 FS for the /home, so I can see exactely which one is the /home. Even more, I use a certain size for this partition: 60 GB. I usually use some 6 - 8 GB of it, but sometimes I need more, so it fits my needs. In case you make a heavy use of /home, you might need to reserve more than 60 GB. I prefer using dedicated partitions for my projects, such as /projects, /video, /mydat, etc. This allows me to backup as needed, instead of making a single huge backup.
And in the end...
Now, assuming that you want to have a lot of installations, you need to do some basic maths, as follows:
N Linuxes x 15 GB = ? (N = ?)
SWAP = ?
/home = ?
/datapartition1 = ?
/datapartition2 = ?
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TOTALS = [0,95 x DriveSize] = ?
It would be great to know exactly how much space uses each FULL installation, since this will help save some disk space and this sometimes means more than 1 - 2 GB. Might be up to 5 - 8 GB/ each installation!

Good luck! ;) :)
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Re: Update Failure this morning
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2021, 11:28:51 AM »
 

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Recommendation #1: Use Lite Tweaks. It's quite efficient and designed to keep you out of the CLI. Cleans package cache, removes old kernels, removes old packages, frees up system memory.
I don't have a single LL installation that uses over 8gig jfs on the disk, nor does anybody I know. My Debian 10 gnome system, which has everything but the kitchen sink installed on it, only has about a 40 to 50gig file system, dependent on how many VMs I'm running at the time. If you know you are going to save large amounts of media, setup a media storage partition separate from your system. How much memory are you allocating to Linux Lite? Are you specifying a certain amount of memory? When you do so installation automatically configures swap file accordingly. Have you been regularly compiling software on these systems? Have you had multiple failed or interrupted updates on either? Safe rule of thumb for Linux Lite, 21gig disk space, 3 to 4gig of memory and system should never be memory challenged or disk space challenged throughout the series release cycle.
Recommendation #2: Use Lite Tweaks

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Re: Update Failure this morning
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2021, 06:30:55 AM »
 

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As you've found 20GB can be a restriction for a working system.  Suggesting good practice for partition sizes is difficult as everyone's needs are different.  I think the 20GB recommendation may assume your /home directories are on another partition or that you aren't going to be keeping a lot of user data.

I have a couple of machines for general tasks.  One has a 250GB SSD and is solely for LL ver 5.2 and the SSD is currently is 7% used.  This machine also has a 1.5TB drive for user data which is 50% full. The choice to use the full SSD for LL was straight forward as I had no need to compromise.

The second machine came to me as a 1TB disk Win10 machine.  I wanted to use LL on it but needed to retain W10 for some applications so needed to dual boot.  I shrank the main Windows partition down to 300GB which left 200GB free space for W10 to use and set the LL partition to 200GB.  200GB is probably too much for LL but the machine had 600GB of free space and there is still 400GB unused space I can use for expansion of LL 5.2 or installing another system.

I understand it is possible to relocate partitions with gparted (or similar tool) but it's not something I've done.

I'm a bit confused by your post - are you also having a space problem installing updates in the LLite2 installation which has 60G and is showing 40G free ?
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Re: Update Failure this morning
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2021, 04:13:27 AM »
 

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I will try it on the other one, but just looking at GParted (image as PNG in tar.gz attachment) I see what you mean, the original Instance is showing 19.53 GiB size and 18.78 GiB used. Given the sequence of Partitions, what would be the best way to increase that one without messing things up. Bodhi is right up against it in the sequence. Or am I better off expanding LLITE2 and doing away with Linux Lite?

How do you plan your multi instance partitions? I got the recommendation from a webpage showing how to install multiple instances of Linux and the recommendation was 20 GiB for each. Obviously after installing a few programs that doesn't suffice. It's not like I have space issues allocating more on the 2 TiB SSD  ;D Just didn't know what would be a good practice as partitions are not dynamic and I didn't realise moving them around would be inflexible. I understood the recommendation had inbuilt flexibility.  :o ::) Obviously misunderstood...

Thanks again

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Re: Update Failure this morning
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2021, 04:06:25 AM »
 

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So after running both commands requested above I re-ran the update installation on one of the two LLite instances and seem to have a better result:

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Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
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Setting up linux-headers-generic (5.4.0.66.69) ...
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Setting up thunderbird-locale-en (1:78.7.1+build1-0ubuntu0.20.04.1) ...
Setting up grub-pc-bin (2.04-1ubuntu26.9) ...
Setting up grub-pc (2.04-1ubuntu26.9) ...
Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub'
Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub.d/init-select.cfg'
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found background: /boot/grub_linux_lite.png
Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
Found background image: /boot/grub_linux_lite.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-66-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-65-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-65-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-60-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-60-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-59-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-59-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-56-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-56-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-52-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-52-generic
Found Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS (18.04) on /dev/sda5
Found Linux Lite 5.2 (20.04) on /dev/sda9
done
Setting up thunderbird-locale-en-us (1:78.7.1+build1-0ubuntu0.20.04.1) ...
Setting up thunderbird-locale-en-gb (1:78.7.1+build1-0ubuntu0.20.04.1) ...
Setting up linux-image-generic (5.4.0.66.69) ...
Setting up grub-efi-amd64-signed (1.142.11+2.04-1ubuntu26.9) ...
Installing grub to /boot/efi.
Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
Installation finished. No error reported.
Setting up linux-generic (5.4.0.66.69) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.31-0ubuntu9.2) ...
Processing triggers for systemd (245.4-4ubuntu3.4) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.9.1-1) ...
/usr/bin/mandb: can't write to /var/cache/man/22573: No space left on device
/usr/bin/mandb: can't create index cache /var/cache/man/22573: No space left on device
Processing triggers for install-info (6.7.0.dfsg.2-5) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.24-1ubuntu3) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.64ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.17-2) ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.36.0-1ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for linux-image-5.4.0-66-generic (5.4.0-66.74) ...
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms:
 * dkms: running auto installation service for kernel 5.4.0-66-generic
   ...done.
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools:
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-66-generic
I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sda3
I: (UUID=4b3a456f-c8ed-4438-bfa6-1cb7de009588)
I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub:
Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub'
Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub.d/init-select.cfg'
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found background: /boot/grub_linux_lite.png
Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
Found background image: /boot/grub_linux_lite.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-66-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-66-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-65-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-65-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-60-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-60-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-59-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-59-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-56-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-56-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-52-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-52-generic
Found Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS (18.04) on /dev/sda5
Found Linux Lite 5.2 (20.04) on /dev/sda9
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Re: Update Failure this morning
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2021, 04:00:56 AM »
 

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Quote from: stevef on February 23, 2021, 08:04:27 AM
The df utility will show disk capacity and used/available figures across the mounted file systems.
Can you open a terminal and post up the results of the command
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df -h please ?
Thanks for the post, just seeing it, after I had already done an apt autoremove (see subsequent comment).

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 llite  ~  130  df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev            3,8G     0  3,8G   0% /dev
tmpfs           785M  3,1M  782M   1% /run
/dev/sda4        20G   18G  537M  98% /
tmpfs           3,9G     0  3,9G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs           5,0M  4,0K  5,0M   1% /run/lock
tmpfs           3,9G     0  3,9G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sda1       999M  8,9M  990M   1% /boot/efi
tmpfs           785M   12K  785M   1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sdb1       961G   84G  828G  10% /media/llite/Drive A
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Re: Update Failure this morning
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2021, 03:59:26 AM »
 

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Quote from: firenice03 on February 23, 2021, 08:44:10 AM
@llite001  As @stevef mentions....

Looks like your disk may be full   -   E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/

Also you can run the command as suggested to clean up a bit of space...
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sudo apt autoremoveThe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  linux-headers-5.4.0-62 linux-headers-5.4.0-62-generic
  linux-image-5.4.0-62-generic linux-modules-5.4.0-62-generic
  linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-62-generic
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.

Or if LL is usable - you can use Kernel Remover in Lite Tweaks as well

So Just logged in the 2nd LLite instance and had the same result as what I posted yesterday.
Just ran sudo apt autoremove

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===========================
Install Updates Error log
===========================
Install Updates could not successfully download and install available updates.
Go to https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/ and paste the log below into a new or existing thread for assistance.

============ Log ===========

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Calculating upgrade...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  linux-headers-5.4.0-62 linux-headers-5.4.0-62-generic linux-headers-5.4.0-65
  linux-headers-5.4.0-65-generic linux-image-5.4.0-62-generic
  linux-image-5.4.0-65-generic linux-modules-5.4.0-62-generic
  linux-modules-5.4.0-65-generic linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-62-generic
  linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-65-generic
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  linux-headers-5.4.0-66 linux-headers-5.4.0-66-generic
  linux-image-5.4.0-66-generic linux-modules-5.4.0-66-generic
  linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-66-generic
The following packages will be upgraded:
  gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 grub-common grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64-signed
  grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common
  libldap-2.4-2 libldap-common linux-generic linux-headers-generic
  linux-image-generic linux-libc-dev signal-desktop thunderbird
  thunderbird-locale-en thunderbird-locale-en-gb thunderbird-locale-en-us
20 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 242 MB of archives.
After this operation, 393 MB of additional disk space will be used.
E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
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Re: Update Failure this morning
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2021, 08:44:10 AM »
 

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@llite001  As @stevef mentions....

Looks like your disk may be full   -   E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/

Also you can run the command as suggested to clean up a bit of space...
Code: [Select]
sudo apt autoremoveThe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  linux-headers-5.4.0-62 linux-headers-5.4.0-62-generic
  linux-image-5.4.0-62-generic linux-modules-5.4.0-62-generic
  linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-62-generic
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.

Or if LL is usable - you can use Kernel Remover in Lite Tweaks as well
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Re: Update Failure this morning
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2021, 08:04:27 AM »
 

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The df utility will show disk capacity and used/available figures across the mounted file systems.
Can you open a terminal and post up the results of the command
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df -h please ?
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Update Failure this morning
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2021, 04:49:17 AM »
 

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I got the Updates available pop up this morning, had a quick glance and approved. Then I got a failure and request that I post this here in the forum

===========================
Install Updates Error log
===========================
Install Updates could not successfully download and install available updates.
Go to https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/ and paste the log below into a new or existing thread for assistance.

============ Log ===========

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Calculating upgrade...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  linux-headers-5.4.0-62 linux-headers-5.4.0-62-generic
  linux-image-5.4.0-62-generic linux-modules-5.4.0-62-generic
  linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-62-generic
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be upgraded:
  gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 grub-common grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64-signed
  grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common
  libldap-2.4-2 libldap-common signal-desktop
12 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 115 MB of archives.
After this operation, 2.048 B disk space will be freed.
E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
=========================================================

Not sure if this is a related issue or not. I've installed BODHI and LLITE on same computer (Windows + Apple free) I was planning on installing a few others to test but haven't gotten to it yet. Anyhow all was well until at some stage LLITE wouldn't log me in and soon thereafter GRUB stopped functioning so I could only log into BODHI (1st on GRUB list - couldn't scroll down). I tinkered around from GRUB trying to increase space 21GB for each partition and adjust things around, Copied partition and placed in a new location. Still nothing worked, then after 5-6 weeks GRUB is working, both instances of LLITE are working, but now BODHI has dissapeared from GRUB  :o

Anybody else experience such behaviour? I am guessing one of the programs I installed on LLITE or BODHI or an UPDATE on LLITE screwed up my LLITE install. Not sure how it got fixed. Perhaps a recent attempt to go into Advance/Secure mode and run updates.?
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