[ SOLVED ] A few Desktop and update questions

[Jerry]

Well done

[paul1149]

Looks like the problem was me not understanding how the Menu configurator is configured. When XFCE is selected on the left, I thought the items on the right were items in the left-hand column of the menu. But they seem to be global filters that will remove the items from the entire menu, including the search function. I restored my menu config file, went into configurator and re-checked Install Updates, which I had disabled. Now Install Updates appeared in a search. From there I added it to Favorites. It still isn't in System though, which I thought it is by default.

So all my questions here have been answered. Thanks again to everyone!

[paul1149]

Do you have a restore point set?

I do have restore points set. I include some data folders in them though, so I guess I would have to back them up first, do the restore and then copy the data back in? I think I go far enough back to catch this problem.

It looks like he is using the default xfce menu config. Right click on the menu icon and see if it says whisker, if it doesn't this may be the issue. If it still says your using the whisker menu, then try renaming the xfce menu config located in the /home/USER/.config/menus, log out and back in or reboot to see if that fixes.

The Menu says Whisker. I didn't see how this would work, since even a menu search doesn't find Updates, whereas it will find other things not on the menu. But I went to the folder and found "xfce-applications.menu" and renamed it. It didn't say Whisker in the XML but had some customizations I recognized. When I logged back in "Install Updates" was not in Favorites, or in System or Settings. But it was in All, and when I did a Menu search it was there. I was able to update the system and add Install Updates to Favorites.


So that's a victory, but it doesn't seem the Whisker Menu was taken back entirely to default status. Unless something else is wrong that I don't know about, I can accept this as it is, but I wonder what's going on. I also wonder if customizing the Menu again will cause problems. I guess I'll soon find out.


In any case, thanks much for this idea. And thank you Jerry for your diagnostics.

[supergamer]

It looks like he is using the default xfce menu config. Right click on the menu icon and see if it says whisker, if it doesn't this may be the issue. If it still says your using the whisker menu, then try renaming the xfce menu config located in the /home/USER/.config/menus, log out and back in or reboot to see if that fixes.

[Jerry]

Do you have a restore point set?

[paul1149]

I selected and ordered Faves items, and the main categories in the left column. Under Settings I've used the Menu utility to hide and show certain things. Looking at it the utility now, under System and Settings there is no Updates item listed, checked or unchecked. Beyond that, I don't recall doing anything that would affect this.

[Jerry]

Looks good to me. Have you tweaked or used any application at all or used any commands etc that amends the Menu?

[paul1149]

cat ~/.local/share/applications/exo-file-manager.desktop:

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paul@Precision:~$ cat ~/.local/share/applications/exo-file-manager.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Application
Exec=gksudo /usr/scripts/updates-gui
Icon=system-software-installer
StartupNotify=true
Terminal=false
Categories=Utility;X-XFCE;X-Xfce-Toplevel;
OnlyShowIn=XFCE;
X-XFCE-MimeType=inode/directory;x-scheme-handler/trash;
Name=Install Updates
Comment=Get the latest updates for your computer
NoDisplay=false
paul@Precision:~$
cat /etc/skel/.local/share/applications/exo-file-manager.desktop:

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paul@Precision:~$ cat /etc/skel/.local/share/applications/exo-file-manager.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Application
Exec=/usr/scripts/updates-gui
Icon=system-software-installer
StartupNotify=true
Terminal=false
Categories=Utility;X-XFCE;X-Xfce-Toplevel;
OnlyShowIn=XFCE;
X-XFCE-MimeType=inode/directory;x-scheme-handler/trash;
Name=Install Updates
Comment=Get the latest updates for your computer
paul@Precision:~$


[Jerry]

And now:

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cat ~/.local/share/applications/exo-file-manager.desktop
and:

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cat /etc/skel/.local/share/applications/exo-file-manager.desktop

[paul1149]

ls ~/.local/share/applications yields:

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paul@Precision:~$ ls ~/.local/share/applications
alacarte-made-10.desktop
alacarte-made-11.desktop
alacarte-made-12.desktop
alacarte-made-13.desktop
alacarte-made-14.desktop
alacarte-made-15.desktop
alacarte-made-16.desktop
alacarte-made-1.desktop
alacarte-made-2.desktop
alacarte-made-3.desktop
alacarte-made-4.desktop
alacarte-made-5.desktop
alacarte-made-6.desktop
alacarte-made-7.desktop
alacarte-made-8.desktop
alacarte-made-9.desktop
alacarte-made.desktop
catfish.desktop
defaults.list
evince.desktop
exo-file-manager.desktop
exo-terminal-emulator.desktop
exo-web-browser.desktop
galculator.desktop
gparted.desktop
hardinfo.desktop
hplj1020.desktop
htop.desktop
javaws
leafpad.desktop
libreoffice-calc.desktop
libreoffice-impress.desktop
libreoffice-startcenter.desktop
libreoffice-writer.desktop
mimeapps.list
mimeinfo.cache
ntfs-config.desktop
org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop
pavucontrol.desktop
remmina.desktop
ristretto.desktop
simple-scan.desktop
slimjet-jndclpdbaamdhonoechobihbbiimdgai-Profile_2.desktop
slimjet-nmmhkkegccagdldgiimedpiccmgmieda-Default.desktop
slimjet-nmmhkkegccagdldgiimedpiccmgmieda-Profile_2.desktop
software-properties-drivers.desktop
synaptic.desktop
Thunar-bulk-rename.desktop
Thunar.desktop
userapp-javaws-85WOQY.desktop
userapp-javaws-FQS4QY.desktop
userapp-thunar-RK7C0Y.desktop
vivaldi-stable.desktop
wine
wine-extension-chm.desktop
wine-extension-gif.desktop
wine-extension-hlp.desktop
wine-extension-htm.desktop
wine-extension-ini.desktop
wine-extension-jfif.desktop
wine-extension-jpe.desktop
wine-extension-msp.desktop
wine-extension-pdf.desktop
wine-extension-png.desktop
wine-extension-rtf.desktop
wine-extension-txt.desktop
wine-extension-url.desktop
wine-extension-vbs.desktop
wine-extension-wri.desktop
wine-extension-xclpack.desktop
wine-extension-xcvault.desktop
wine-extension-xml.desktop
xfburn.desktop
xfce4-run.desktop


ls /etc/skel/.local/share/applications yields:

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paul@Precision:~$ ls /etc/skel/.local/share/applications
alacarte-made-10.desktop       galculator.desktop
alacarte-made-11.desktop       gparted.desktop
alacarte-made-1.desktop        hardinfo.desktop
alacarte-made-2.desktop        htop.desktop
alacarte-made-3.desktop        leafpad.desktop
alacarte-made-4.desktop        libreoffice-calc.desktop
alacarte-made-5.desktop        libreoffice-impress.desktop
alacarte-made-6.desktop        libreoffice-writer.desktop
alacarte-made-7.desktop        ntfs-config.desktop
alacarte-made-8.desktop        pavucontrol.desktop
alacarte-made-9.desktop        ristretto.desktop
alacarte-made.desktop          simple-scan.desktop
catfish.desktop                software-properties-drivers.desktop
defaults.list                  synaptic.desktop
evince.desktop                 Thunar.desktop
exo-file-manager.desktop       xfburn.desktop
exo-terminal-emulator.desktop


PS: It seems the Code tags here are being inserted in reverse order.

[Jerry]

What is the output of:

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ls ~/.local/share/applications
and:

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ls /etc/skel/.local/share/applications

[paul1149]

Here's the Fave menu:



And here's a menu search:

[Jerry]

Our policy on switching DE's - http://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/software.html#deskenv

"Updates is no longer in the Menu." - can you please screenshot your Menu, Favorites section.

[paul1149]

Thanks. That compositor solved my window snapping problem, and also gave me all apps in the alt-tab cycle. I didn't see any way to choose LXDE when it was installed. I expected something on the log in screen.

[Artim]

LL does have a built-in compositor, you just have to turn it on.  Menu --> Settings --> Settings Manager --> Window Manager Tweaks --> click on Compositor tab and check "Enable Display Compositing."

LXDE is cool, but to use it you have to log out of the computer, and log back in choosing LXDE as your new "Session."  While you can mix a few compatible apps between desktop environments (Xfce, which is LL's default desktop) and others, from KDE and Gnome to LXDE and even Enlightenment.  But each desktop is a separate session.