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Title: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: merlin on July 14, 2016, 10:13:04 AM
Hi, I have a problem about Linux Lite. Now, I wanna tell about my new laptop.
I'd success to installed Linux Lite on my new laptop, that's no error when I tried Live CD or beginning installation.
When I want to use my laptop, a few minutes it's no problem.
But after I am using that for browsing the internet, listening a music, and write my project, my laptop is freeze and caps lock blinking.
So, I am push a power button to turn off it.
That's no once can happen, every I am using my laptop.
Can anyone give me a solution how to fix my problem?

Thanks
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: paul1149 on July 14, 2016, 04:39:21 PM
What brand of laptop, and what is the blink pattern?
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: N4RPS on July 14, 2016, 10:58:30 PM
Hello!

A quick check online states that the caps lock key blinks during a 'kernel panic'.

What's a 'kernel panic', you say? (That's OK. So did I.)

"A kernel panic (sometimes abbreviated as KP) is an action taken by an operating system upon detecting an internal fatal error from which it cannot safely recover."

Assuming it didn't do this prior to your LL installation, I would have to guess there's an issue with the ISO you downloaded. After you downloaded the ISO, did you run an MD5SUM check to make sure it downloaded without errors?

Once you answer that question, we can go from there...

73 DE N4RPS
Rob
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: merlin on July 15, 2016, 12:24:43 AM
My brand laptop is HP 14-ac001tu. The laptop normal when idle.
I've done to check a ISO file when I downloaded, on my laptop friends brand Acer that's nothing problem
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: merlin on July 16, 2016, 06:20:44 AM
Can anyone to help me to solve this?
Please
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: banko on July 16, 2016, 12:55:53 PM
Sorry I can't help, but I'll keep bumping up until someone more knowledgeable can help.
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: LL-user on July 16, 2016, 06:03:40 PM
Hi merlin,

I'd do some hardware checks:
Hope that helps :)
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: merlin on July 17, 2016, 02:16:16 AM
Yesterday I'm using Linux Lite 3.0 64-bit version and kernel panic still abuse me.
Alright, today I'm installed Linux Lite 3.0 32-bit on my laptop.
The result is no kernel panic, no capslock blinking, and freeze desktop.
Wow, my laptop Intel x64-bit based and can using Linux Lite 3.0 32-bit version.
Hmm, I little confuse about that but my problem is solved.
Thanks to advice :)
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: LL-user on July 17, 2016, 02:30:53 AM
OK, no hardware problem then it seems. So you might be facing a kernel problem. Which kernel to use best for your machine I leave for the guys to recommend who've got more experience :)

Usually you can run a 32bit system on a 64bit machine. But you might not be able to utilize your hardware to the full capacity.

Wish you a good Linux Lite experience after the bumpy start :)
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: paul1149 on July 17, 2016, 10:52:08 AM
If you ever want to try 64 bit again, I would attend to basic maintenance, such as making sure the vents are clear by using compressed air, possibly resetting the CPU thermal paste, and cleaning and resetting the RAM.
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: trinidad on July 17, 2016, 11:49:15 AM
Sounds like your cpu is not threading properly in 64bit mode. This can be caused by several things, including messed up partitioning, dirty disk, and/or outdated cpu. Some old 64bit machines cannot handle new 64bit software, not powerful enough. It's hit or miss with the older stuff. What cpu is your laptop running?

TC
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: trinidad on July 17, 2016, 12:04:08 PM
Indeed. If this is your processor your going to have problems with Firefox and VLC in 64bit, and virtually no 3D rendering.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-N3050-Notebook-Processor.146637.0.html

TC
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: merlin on July 17, 2016, 12:31:51 PM
Sounds like your cpu is not threading properly in 64bit mode. This can be caused by several things, including messed up partitioning, dirty disk, and/or outdated cpu. Some old 64bit machines cannot handle new 64bit software, not powerful enough. It's hit or miss with the older stuff. What cpu is your laptop running?

TC
This is details my CPU
Code: [Select]
-Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU  N3050  @ 1.60GHz
Memory : 1923MB (878MB used)
Operating System : Linux Lite 3.0
User Name : linuxlite (linuxlite)
Date/Time : Min 17 Jul 2016 11:30:40  WIB
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics (Cherryview) x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
-Input Devices-
 Lid Switch
 Power Button
 Power Button
 AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
 Video Bus
 ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad
 HP Wireless hotkeys
 HDA Intel PCH Mic
 HDA Intel PCH Headphone
 HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm : 3=
 PixArt USB Optical Mouse
 HP Truevision HD
 HP WMI hotkeys
-Printers-
No printers found
-SCSI Disks-
ATA HGST HTS545050A7
hp DVDRW  DU8A6SH
WD Elements 10B8
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: merlin on July 17, 2016, 12:36:29 PM
If you ever want to try 64 bit again, I would attend to basic maintenance, such as making sure the vents are clear by using compressed air, possibly resetting the CPU thermal paste, and cleaning and resetting the RAM.

I am bought my laptop less one year.
Btw, thanks for advice paul1149 and maybe I want check my laptop as your suggestion.
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: merlin on July 17, 2016, 12:39:54 PM
Indeed. If this is your processor your going to have problems with Firefox and VLC in 64bit, and virtually no 3D rendering.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-N3050-Notebook-Processor.146637.0.html

TC
Yup, exactly as you said. Kernel Panic was happen when I run Mozilla Firefox and VLC 64-bit.
Oh, one thing again, not only Linux Lite can happen kernel panic on my laptop.
I tried Debian 8 and Lubuntu 15.10 64-bit version, I got a same this problem.
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: trinidad on July 18, 2016, 10:07:58 AM
You might want to try increasing the swappiness to 100, and make your swap file or part at least 2g. It sounds goofy but the swap runs slower than the ddr and it can help ease the cpu into the heavy apps rather than force feed it into turbo mode and crash it out of its oc length.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness

Everything Ubuntu 16.xx 64bit derived has problems with this little tweaked cpu, though I had reasonable success with a 2.8 LL/64 and windows 7/64 dual boot on a similar HP laptop, success being defined as LL running substantially faster than windows7. Debian8 will run okay on it but you'll need a full dvd set installer that you can pre-seed, not a unet bootin download just to install it in a reasonable amount of time. Also, just so you know, the cpu demands for Firefox and VLC are even higher in LXLE than LL, so its not worth experimenting with. IMHO, LL is the most efficient 64/OS as far as XFCE distros.

TC

   
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: merlin on July 20, 2016, 12:06:07 PM
Honestly, after a few days Linux Lite 3.0 32-bit same have a problem, caps lock blinking and freeze my laptop.
Today, I am installing fedora 23 64-bit, it's working fine.
I'd test 5 hours fedora 23 64-bit my laptop with listening music, accessing internet, and working my job with libreoffice run smoothly without any problem.
I am still confuse, why it can happen all distro debian on my laptop?
That's new experience for me in the linux.
Btw, swapiness can solve it?
Thanks
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: trinidad on July 20, 2016, 05:42:08 PM
Ubuntu friends indicate that your little cpu works most reliably in 64bit on kernel 4.4.1. LL 3.0 is on 4.4.0-21, as far as I know. Fedora23 is beyond that, so perhaps the issue is provided for beyond 4.4.1.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/726508/celeron-n3050-braswell-cpu-usage-too-high-on-ubuntu-14-04   

TC 
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: merlin on July 21, 2016, 04:13:35 AM
Ubuntu friends indicate that your little cpu works most reliably in 64bit on kernel 4.4.1. LL 3.0 is on 4.4.0-21, as far as I know. Fedora23 is beyond that, so perhaps the issue is provided for beyond 4.4.1.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/726508/celeron-n3050-braswell-cpu-usage-too-high-on-ubuntu-14-04   

TC

Ok, maybe I should upgrade kernel as you said.
I will try it, thanks man! :)
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: merlin on July 26, 2016, 03:20:43 PM
Upgrading kernel not solved my problem, but I found step to fix it.
I am looking how to make partition automatic from fedora, it use need partition ext2 and swap without LVM.
I tried it in LL 3.0 64-bit edition, my problem is solved. That's awesome but a little strange.
I mark SOLVED for this topic, thanks all :)
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: banko on July 27, 2016, 01:51:47 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: trinidad on July 27, 2016, 09:20:11 AM
Happy your problem is solved, just wish you had provided more info initially. You last response indicates that perhaps you had a partitioning issue to begin with. One that I now suspect was caused by using an out-dated disk utility to initially partition your drive.

TC 
Title: Re: Caps Lock blinking and freeze on my new laptop
Post by: merlin on July 27, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Happy your problem is solved, just wish you had provided more info initially. You last response indicates that perhaps you had a partitioning issue to begin with. One that I now suspect was caused by using an out-dated disk utility to initially partition your drive.

TC

Exactly, as you said, trinidad.
I did SMART Test and the result my disk out-dated or old-age.