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Title: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: newtusmaximus on April 14, 2016, 03:55:49 PM
LL is aimed at XP to Linux cross over user.

Just out of interest, perhaps LL users would like to list their oldest machines running on LL with version and ram ?
I'll Start it off:
2003 -  Toshiba Satellite Pro A10 1 GB Ram - LL2.8
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Jocklad on April 14, 2016, 05:22:59 PM
Dell Dimension 3000 1gb ram circa 2005....not sure I built it from scrap

Running LL 2.8 32 bit,very well.

Jocklad  :)
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: nomko on April 15, 2016, 02:20:34 AM
My laptop is from end 2014 or early 2015. Can't exactly remember which period i bought it since i was on the hunt for a good system a long time. But it's at least 1-1/2 years old.

Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: justme2 on April 15, 2016, 05:11:50 AM
early 2004 model, Medion laptop, Pentium 4, 1GB ram, LL2.8 on 80GB HD
2009 eeePC 901, 1GB ram, LL2.8 on 32GB SDHC
2010 eeePC 701SD, 1GB ram, LL2.8 on 8GB SSD

LL2.8 runs remarkably well on all three machines
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: rokytnji on April 15, 2016, 07:47:32 AM
They are shown in my signature. I have older and other capable gear that I run other distros on.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: firenice03 on April 15, 2016, 08:12:21 AM
My oldest currently running system is probably the MINI in my sig (around '09) 1gb non-upgrade able ram...
Came with XP and ran great, tried Win7 became a dog and used less and less found LL and back to using more.
- Still has Win7 but has been booted to in a year.. Maybe with LL 3.0 I'll see about SSD and/or remove windoze altogether.

LL revived the Mini, able to continue using a HP1000 Laserjet printer (no drivers win7 64bit -only 32)
The 160 is the "kids" machine - Triple boots Win7, Linux Mint and LL (LL is the fav)

Newest is the Kangaroo at a few months old, its about the size of cell phone dual boots with Win10; LL currently runs on an SD Card..

And 1 other running Win7 but has a lot VM's from other Win's desktops and Servers to Mint, Mandriva and CentOS..


Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: avj on April 15, 2016, 05:16:16 PM
Running Linux Lite 2.8 on this Acer Aspire One AOA150 ZG5 (Series one netbook) it was manufactured in 2008. It has an Intel Atom N270 processor @ 1.6 Ghz, and 1 GB ram and came with Xp installed on the 120 GB HDD. It is my everyday machine.  :)
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: paul1149 on April 15, 2016, 09:42:06 PM
Interesting question, which I've been mulling since Chrome/Chromium stopped flash support for 32bit Linux.

I'm personally on a Dell Precision T3400 tower, with a 2.4GHz Core2Duo and 4GB RAM. All is very well. I've converted several XP units and a few Vista units, one of which had been upgraded to Win7. My unit is 64bit, but all the others were 32bit.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: tek10 on April 16, 2016, 01:40:25 AM
The oldest system I'm using is a 2009 HP G60 laptop that came with Vista and 3GB RAM. It ran fine with LL1.6 32 bit and runs great with LL2.8 64 bit. I also run LL on a custom built desktop and an HTPC. Both have components dating from 2012 to this year and are modified about once a year.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: newtusmaximus on April 16, 2016, 05:32:16 AM
Tek10 - re your G60. do you find that it runs cooler than when on Vista- ??  The one our family had was for ever over heating on Vista and becoming erratic.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: m654321 on April 16, 2016, 05:53:10 AM
See info below for year of manufacture & set-up details at my place...

Mike
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: tek10 on April 19, 2016, 12:21:34 AM
newtusmaximus - It's been so long since I had Vista running on this G60, I can't give an accurate answer. I can say I've never had a problem with overheating using Vista or Linux. I've had several different distros installed, all using openbox or xfce. Currently dual booting with LL2.8 and SolydX. I periodically do a thorough cleaning to maintain good airflow .
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Jerry on April 20, 2016, 01:36:15 AM
I bought an Acer Aspire 8920g, circa 2008. Was the LL dev machine believe it or not for a few releases.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2310777,00.asp?tab=Specs

(http://gecid.com/data/nouts/200808280000-921/img/05.jpg)
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Teddy on April 23, 2016, 06:22:30 PM
My oldest running LL is my Dell Dimension 5100C desktop from 2005. My configuration cost about $1100 USD when it was new. Mine is more basic though, didn't come with the optional TV tuner card or 9-in-1 card reader, but does have performance boost from the base 2.8 Ghz Penitum 4. This has the TRUE dual-core Penitum D 2.8 Ghz.


My Desktop: Dell Dimension 5100C

This is my spare machine I use for testing all kinds of Linux distros and previews of Windows. A quick machine considering its age. Also used occasionally as a background music machine for my job live-streaming commercial-free Icecast / Shoutcast radio streams. Has a S/PDIF (Optical) 5.1 Surround Audio output used on a Harman/Kardon A/V Receiver. Creates static free and crisp high quality sound!

It has a gear-operated door cover that covers the DVD Drive, Floppy Drive (or optional 9 in 1 Media Card Reader for SD Cards, Memory Stick, CompactFlash, etc.), 3.5 mm Audio Jacks, Firewire 400, and 2 USB 2.0 Ports. This is with it open.

(http://r-factory.co.jp/upload/save_image/06241703_4c231140c5e5d.jpg)

Door cover closed.

(http://ebay.redplanettrading.com/cases/dim5100c/5100c-angle-400.jpg)

Neat feature!

Processor: Intel Pentium D Dual-Core @ 2.8 Ghz (No HyperThreading)
Graphics: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 (Intel 945G Chipset) - Very good with Linux, present on alot of older Intel Atoms from the netbook craze era.
Hard Drive: Western Digital Blue 80GB
Other Storage: 3.5inch TEAC Floppy Drive - Not shown in above pictures.
RAM: 2.0 GB DDR2 667 Mhz Memory (3 of 4 RAM Slots Used) (4GB Max)
Wireless LAN: No Wireless Card Installed
LAN: Intel Ethernet Card
Display: 1440x900 HP 1907w Desktop Monitor with rear-facing stereo speakers
Operating System: My Machine For Distro-Hopping or Testing OS's. All kinds of things go in this field.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Ray H on May 02, 2016, 07:51:25 PM
2003 - Dell Dimension 8300 desktop, 1GB RAM - LL2.8

(https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.tz.nl%2Ff%2Fspec%2F2869.jpg&f=1)
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Jocklad on May 24, 2016, 11:01:16 AM
Dell Dimension 3000 1gb ram circa 2005....not sure I built it from scrap

Running LL 2.8 32 bit,very well.

Jocklad  :)

Sadly my faithful old Dell passed away this morning. :'( :'( :'((motherboard failure)

Now left without a 32 bit machine
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: technomancer on May 24, 2016, 05:06:22 PM
The oldest computer i run LinuxLite 2.8 (and MX-15) on is an
IBM T43, ati x600 graphics, 40gb IDE drive, Intel pentium m 1.86ghz( single core), 2gb ddr ram.
It is knida slow, but functions nicely for webcast listening and browsing at night. You tube doesn't work to watch video very well however.  No driver for the x600 ati card, just default.....
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: nomko on May 25, 2016, 09:16:04 AM
Now left without a 32 bit machine
Don't be sad about that. 32-bit will eventually die out completely. Google already made the first step, some distro's don't even come with 32-bit versions any longer. 64-Bit is the present future. It's now waiting for a 128-bit system or 256-bit system. Heck, maybe a 1024-bit system! Who knows...  ;)

Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Wirezfree on May 25, 2016, 10:05:27 AM
@nomko
Apart from some very niche areas(NEC MIPS/DEC Alpha Chip) I very much doubt we will see 128bit in the consumer PC market for a very, very, very long time.
Also it's a balance between memory addressing and performance, 64bit can actually be slower.


A quick Google... some stuff here (https://www.quora.com/Why-arent-there-128-bit-CPUs)
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Teddy on June 02, 2016, 05:04:40 PM
Now left without a 32 bit machine
Don't be sad about that. 32-bit will eventually die out completely. Google already made the first step, some distro's don't even come with 32-bit versions any longer. 64-Bit is the present future. It's now waiting for a 128-bit system or 256-bit system. Heck, maybe a 1024-bit system! Who knows...  ;)

It's going to stay 64-Bit for a good long while. The main reason why 32-Bit (NON-PAE Kernels) is a dinosaur is because of the inability to access 4GB+ Of RAM.  64-Bit Has A Limit of 16 Exabytes or in scientific notation: 1.6 x 1010 Gigabytes or 1.6 x 107 Terabytes(Gigabyte--->Terabyte--->Petabyte--->Exabyte)
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Kyle on June 17, 2016, 02:30:14 AM
Running a Dell Latitude E6400 with added RAM (4GB instead of 2GB). Year is around Q1 of 2008.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: SmartDuck on June 17, 2016, 05:00:22 PM
Kyle: I use the little brother of the 6400 the 4300 with 4GB of ram.
LL 3.0 64bit runs fine. I use it for normal tasks internet, music, office, development of web (PHP/SQL), desktop applications (FreeBasic/Lazarus) and Android apps (Android Studio) and light games via steam, minecraft or retro games (dosbox).

As a backup I have an old Dell D505. Run LL 2.8 32bit fine and is fast enough for internet and light office work.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Kyle on June 18, 2016, 11:17:26 AM
Kyle: I use the little brother of the 6400 the 4300 with 4GB of ram.
LL 3.0 64bit runs fine. I use it for normal tasks internet, music, office, development of web (PHP/SQL), desktop applications (FreeBasic/Lazarus) and Android apps (Android Studio) and light games via steam, minecraft or retro games (dosbox).

As a backup I have an old Dell D505. Run LL 2.8 32bit fine and is fast enough for internet and light office work.

That's cool! I personally dumped my gaming laptop for the stability of the Dell Latitude 4000-6000 line, they are also built very well (plenty of weight) but are constructed with a really durable palm rest.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: justme2 on February 18, 2018, 05:25:17 AM
early 2004 model, Medion laptop, Pentium 4, 1GB ram, LL2.8 on 80GB HD
2009 eeePC 901, 1GB ram, LL2.8 on 32GB SDHC
2010 eeePC 701SD, 1GB ram, LL2.8 on 8GB SSD

LL2.8 runs remarkably well on all three machines

These same 32bit machines have now all been upgraded to  LL3.8 and are trouble free, running on kernel 4.4.0-109
The 701 now runs LL from a 32GB class 10 SDHC in the built in card reader, the 8GB SSD being used for data backup. It runs faster from the SDHC!
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Artim on February 18, 2018, 06:34:08 AM
I have an ancient Dell Dimension desktop, 12 years old, that runs AntiX 32-bit, because even Linux Lite is kinda slow on it.  My main computer is a Dell Vostro 200, I think about 4 or 5 years old, running Linux Lite 3.8 effortlessly. 
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: ptyerman on February 18, 2018, 06:51:57 AM
Antix is great for old machines. I have a number of old PC's that would struggle to run Linux Lite or similar, mostly socket 462 AMD Athlon and AthlonXP machines with a few Pentium II, III and IV's thrown in the mix. I even have some old socket 7 Pentium I and AMD K6 boards and CPU's laying around but they're not built or running anything at the moment, I might build one up as a DOS gaming machine in the near future.
Puppy Linux is great too for these old machines and I run that also on a few. For the really old Pentium 2 and 3's I have either Windows 98 for retro gaming or Damn Small Linux installed or a old version of Puppy from the version 1 and 2 days.  :)
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: bitsnpcs on February 18, 2018, 09:07:29 AM
Now 2 computers, one is bought 2017, its specs around before then, as below username.
Other it is having a sticker saying it came with Windows Vista originally, this is 32 bit LL.
Both computers using Linux Lite 3.2
When Linux can do the graphics, it feeds downstream, I am get similar to 2017, to replace the vista age one.

 
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: mezzmer on February 18, 2018, 10:14:56 AM
Squeaking some extra life out of an old HP d8000 Circa 2006
Processor AMD Turion 64 1.8 GHz - 2GB DDR SDRAM - 80GB IDE Hard Drive
Surprisingly it doesn't run that badly for most things-It can play a YouTube video if there isn't a lot of other stuff running.
 
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: TheDead on February 19, 2018, 12:21:58 PM
@justme2 gained a level in Necromancy after successfully reviving an almost two year old thread! ;)
I juste mentionned it in another thread but since its on the subject, for those machine not able to run Linux Lite adequately (?), try PeppermintOS 8 respin2.
Live booted to 121MB RAM and 141MB once installed. (LXDE + XFCE/Whisker hybrid). I just tested if for an hour on half-decent hardware but it could reanimate those older closet PCs. ;)

Cheers!
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: MohamedKhaled on February 19, 2018, 01:50:56 PM
well actualley this wasnt my computer first(i took it from my father less than a year ago) but it was made in 2008 (man at that time this laptop was the laptops slayer and now its laptops crap) 1 GB ram -somehow 64bit capable laughable 2 GHz CPU no dedicated graphics card
and
PS: @TheDead   iwas thinking about leaving LL due to that I need multitasking that I couldn't do in LL but then an idea came out ...why not make it really lite :
remove firefox and install opera (32 % faster) remove vlc and install some gnome video player remove word app (i don't remember its name) and install abiword and hey every day I remove something and add something *liter* and i can really notice a difference now i can go back to 64 bit when its removed in ll4.0 cheers
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Coastie on February 19, 2018, 02:59:50 PM
My daily computer as described to the left was bought new in 2015 to run Linux Lite. (Windows infection it came with was wiped.)  :D

My below distro test computer which used to run Linux Lite was custom built for Linux in 2008.
Processor: Intel Atom CPU [email protected]    HDD: 500GB   RAM: 2 GB   Graphics: Integrated  Architecture: ci686   CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit   Seagate ST3500320AS

I also still have an Apple iMac PPC G5 Desktop with 20 M9250LLA 180 GHz which my wife uses for her e-mail and i Photo.
I have a second test computer Dell Dimension which was given to me which is 32 bit. I have no idea how old it is.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: justme2 on February 19, 2018, 03:52:33 PM
@justme2 gained a level in Necromancy after successfully reviving an almost two year old thread! ;)

Cheers!

I knew the age of the thread, but the information is very relevant to 2018 - owners of eeePC 701 and 901 now know that the latest release 3.8 of LL runs fine on those machines.  :P
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Artim on February 19, 2018, 05:38:43 PM
@Coastie I have an old Dell Dimension too!  Hand-me-down, 512 RAM, Celeron processor.  It's running AntiX fast and flawless.  Even LXLE became slow and halting on it.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: ptyerman on February 19, 2018, 09:07:10 PM
I successfully ran Antix on a old socket 7 AMD K6-2 500Mhz with 128Mb RAM! It ran fine and was useable too, I put a second 3.2Gb hard drive in it to use exclusively as swap which aided the low memory situation.
It was a few years ago but it wouldn't surprise me if Antix still ran on such a machine.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Coastie on February 19, 2018, 11:40:52 PM
@Coastie I have an old Dell Dimension too!  Hand-me-down, 512 RAM, Celeron processor.  It's running AntiX fast and flawless.  Even LXLE became slow and halting on it.


The old Dell is kinda a dust collector. I never liked for the DE on AntiX but MEPIS MX is probably my second favorite distro after LL. Partially because MEPIS 11 was my first attempt at trying Linux. Unfortunately, I got talked into moving to FEDORA. That was a big mistake and scared me away from Linux for several years.  :(
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: newtusmaximus on February 20, 2018, 12:14:46 AM
 Interesting to see life breathed into this old thread.
Given the pending demise of LL 32bit in LL4.X onwards, what advice will we give to New(ish) convertees to linux in the future.  LL3.8 32bit , according to development roadmap, is scheduled to be supported until end first quarter 2021?  Believe  LL2.8 32bit is nearing its end of support  in circa 12 months.. (April 2019 ??)


So question   what to do for linux newbies - to help them through the transition , so they get confident to grow into another 32 bit distro later on?    LL community  becomes a Linux kindergarten?

My old Tosh A10  struggled with LL3.0 32bit whilst was happy with LL2.8 32 bit.  Ran much smoother with a debian distro (Point Linux - now dead).
Eventually sold it to someone who wanted to use XP!!   Hopefully it is still running somewhere :)
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: ptyerman on February 20, 2018, 02:00:22 AM
Yeah, 32 bit across the board is been killed off far too prematurely I think. It still has a massive base in the embedded market and also in the developing countries. Problem is, when the mother base distro such as Ubuntu, Fedora and such like stop supporting it, all distro's based of them have to stop too!
Fortunately there's some independents out there like Puppy Linux that will probably carry on 32 bit for a good many years yet.
Like many others, I build, repair and use old systems, to watch the dwindling support is saddening.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: newtusmaximus on February 20, 2018, 02:54:44 AM
I personally never found Puppy L easy to understand; The PET system.  OK for browsing   webmail etc but for nothing serious.
That is why LL is a delight.  Intuitive, minimal terminal needed, and great forum.  All this will be lost to newbies and I fear that other distros will be too "complicated" for them to transition.

Would love to see a LL debian fork for 32 bit. i.e LL helping hand continuing.  . Personally trying MX17 , but not as intuitive as LL I am afraid..  Will have to persevere and the Fuji is in far too good a condition to consign to the scrap heap.  Probably outlast me :)
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: ptyerman on February 20, 2018, 07:48:55 AM
Puppy is great once you spend some time with it, the PET system is more akin to the Windows way of doing things than anything else out there in Linux land! Think of Flatpack or Snap or any of the other recent package systems for Linux, Puppy has had PET for years, download, double click on it and it installs, simple.
Puppy is different though, and probably not suited to everyone. I prefer the older releases, up to and including version 4, wasn't keen on the idea or implementation after 4 when it started been based on Ubuntu and Slackware. It's a great OS for old systems and has served me quite well as a rescue system too, more than once.
There's also Quirky Linux now which is more like the old Puppy, plus it's developed by the original Puppy developer Barry Kauler.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: m654321 on February 20, 2018, 10:50:10 AM
What year is my computer?
See signature below for our household's setups.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: newtusmaximus on February 21, 2018, 09:27:20 AM
ptyerman, my concern re QUIRKY was what happens when Barry decides to retire again .    maybe OK for an enthusiast/hobbyist  but for SOHO  user with wife and bank manager to support :) ?
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: ptyerman on February 21, 2018, 12:13:10 PM
Well neither I nor anyone else suggested it was even suitable for SOHO or serious use! It is what it is, an experimental, hobbyist OS. We are in a thread about old computers after all, you'll find they're hardly suitable for SOHO and banking!
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: Teddy on February 21, 2018, 01:23:02 PM
My daily driver is a 2016 ASUS ROG G752VT-DH74. The specs are in my signature. My dad happens to have the same laptop as well, but his is slightly weaker than mine and had no preinstalled SSD in it (though I fixed that for him within weeks of getting the machine refurbished from eBay.) Both of these machines are "laptops" but only in the name. These are really desktop replacements because they are so large. 17 inch screen size. I had trouble finding a backpack that could fit a machine this large and thick. Battery life: 30mins-1hour, cut that in half if gaming unplugged.

My travel laptop is a 2013 HP Pavilion TouchSmart 11-e015dx, little 11 inch netbook. Has a swappable battery bay which is something that's becoming rare these days. This one is also touchscreen, but it's next to useless on Linux. It's now a strictly Linux machine, Linux Lite of course, but have run Linux Mint, Ubuntu and Manjaro at one point or another in the past. Battery life I get about 3-4 hours, and am looking to purchase another (maybe 2) batteries for uninterrupted unplug sessions out and about on college campus. AMD A6-1450 APU processor with AMD Radeon HD8250 graphics, 4Gb RAM.
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: newtusmaximus on February 21, 2018, 03:58:31 PM
ptyerman
The HP  in my signature is my main desktop for SOHO, and gets a hammering daily.  The Fuji Si1520 laptop is my "run around" etc.  Both circa 12 years old and working fine; Thanks to LL of course !  Mind you the HP doubles as an air filter and needs a thorough internal Spring Clean every year:)
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: TheDead on February 21, 2018, 05:24:21 PM
I was just given an i5-2400 PC. I was happy then I found out it also had 16GB of RAM... wowza! :-D
Only problem is that it crashes randomly *sad*. Currently testing each 4GB memory stick... two of then seem to work fine.
Took the time to upgrade the BIOS, just in case. Two RAM sticks to go, cross fingers. Hope it's not a motherboard problem.
I wonder which OS I'll install on there... wink wink!

Cheers!
Title: Re: What year is your computer? How old?
Post by: ptyerman on February 21, 2018, 05:51:16 PM
ptyerman
The HP  in my signature is my main desktop for SOHO, and gets a hammering daily.  The Fuji Si1520 laptop is my "run around" etc.  Both circa 12 years old and working fine; Thanks to LL of course !  Mind you the HP doubles as an air filter and needs a thorough internal Spring Clean every year:)
My home server/CCTV system is also a Core2Duo with 4Gb of RAM, running Windows 7 x64. My main system is a first generation Core i7 that I built in 2010. That's hardly a 15 year old 32 bit system with 1Gb of RAM though is it? That is what those posts were about, OLD 32 bit systems and the diminishing amount of support for 32 bit. Read back a little and you should pick up where you went astray! Honestly, operating systems and computers don't warrant a religion over them!