Linux Lite Branded Laptop

[Searchernow]

Not to be a total killjoy.  How about a LL tablet (possibly with keyboard option).  AFAIK no competition ?    Biggest screen that was economically possible.  Work closely with the manufacturer to get around driver issues. LINX possibly?  LINX apparently have been struggling to get their tablets working on W10 - see returns/refurbishments caused by customers complaining of slow response times etc.   Just a thought. 
http://www.exertis.com/news/linx-next-gen.php

I'd really like a LL tablet, (finances allowing).

Competition? - This company  https://www.bq.com/en/accessories/products/2 do tablets running android now, but they did offer Ubuntu, see this article from 2016  https://www.zdnet.com/pictures/best-ios-windows-android-and-linux-tablets-of-2016/7/

I don't know why they stopped.

[newtusmaximus]

Not to be a total killjoy.  How about a LL tablet (possibly with keyboard option).  AFAIK no competition ?    Biggest screen that was economically possible.  Work closely with the manufacturer to get around driver issues. LINX possibly?  LINX apparently have been struggling to get their tablets working on W10 - see returns/refurbishments caused by customers complaining of slow response times etc.   Just a thought. 
http://www.exertis.com/news/linx-next-gen.php

[newtusmaximus]

UK = prices inclusive of tax delivered.
https://www.ebuyer.com/store/Computer/cat/Laptops

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/ct/laptops-and-netbooks/laptops

http://www.argos.co.uk/browse/technology/laptops-and-pcs/c:29953/

Refurbished, even more choices. eg.
 
https://www.gigarefurb.co.uk/refurbished-laptops

http://www.tier1online.com/refurbished-laptops/?sort=bestselling

http://www.blackbarncomputers.com/refurbished-laptops/

Sorry to be a kill Joy, but for the hassle / shipping/taxes/warranties  where is the return.  Margins in the industry are slim even for major players.

[Vera]

I'd been looking at laptops recently, so was a little familiar with pricing, specs etc. Without looking at any of the other answers, I felt that $300 - $400 US was a fair and attractive price for those specs with LL 4.x pre-installed. 

I like your idea of offering it in 2 different HD sizes, since I felt the 64G option was a little small (I mean it was too small for people to want to buy it, but that's just IMHO). Yes I know that external hard drives are an option, but still, 64G is small if people are planning on storing some pics or videos on the machine. So, was glad to hear it's got a 128G option.

However, if the price offered was high (like if it was $500+), I'd wonder if that would put off some users who would then consider buying a used PC laptop instead and putting LL on it themselves. It would put me off, but then again the users who would buy a LL laptop would be the ones who would value the additional convenience of having everything there and being good to go without the hassle of installation. So you might still get some users at $500+. Basically, the higher the price, the more users I'd predict would instead go to the used-PC market and self-installation. Offering a LL-branded laptop for purchase would at least be a good option that users can consider. I personally though would feel $300 - $400 US is fair; but above $500 it might scare me off a little. Again, that's just me, everyone has different opinions.

Shipping costs and the charger wall outlet compatibility is something you'd also need to consider when creating a LL-branded laptop.

[newtusmaximus]

See below.  Unfortunate duplicated message instead of amendment.

[TheDead]

@Jerry
I checked and $CAD are also equal to $AUD
If you can can get the 6GB at 444$AUD/$CAD that would be great I think. (444 for Linux Lite 4)
Thats about 344$USD.
(I would prefer 442 like, 42... because you know, it's the number 42 , but I understant if you prefer the 444$ argument).

@m654321
Its not HyperThreaded no, the I5-6500 is not either, which I found weird.
But, its Multi-Threaded 4 core, 4 threads.
People seemed to have been able to run Virtual Machine on them, but have information and is far between.
Guess @Jerry will have to test this.

Note : I like gold. But if you can have Diamond White(/Pearly), Linux Lite Yellow, Galaxy Gray and Void Black, you will be worshipped by the Gods.

I would personnaly get Galaxy Gray, I like my stuff classy looking.


Cheers!

[trinidad]

Next size up screen and $500 price would sell here in US. Cheapest Ubuntu OEM Dell around $1600. Zareason around $1000. System 76 14in is around $600. AMD would be a plus too. Don't need big drive. 80g SSD plenty enough. Regardless of what you do $500 is the consumer market. Higher not so much.

And the gold is cool.

TC

[pompeyrodney]

Hi Jerry
This sounds a good spec to me but I would personally like the ram to be expandable beyond 4gig. The larger 15.6" inch screen would be my preference and of IPS quality. With so many cloud storage services available I think the 128gb SSD would be sufficient. I will see what price I can find for similar spec.

Sent from my MotoG3 using Tapatalk

[m654321]

At 999, the Manjaro laptop price is off the charts. Ours will be mid-spec for less than half that retail. they must be making 100's in profit from each one. Not good.

Agreed - way too high. The 13.3" Clevo laptop, that they seem to use, you can buy for less than half that price (with win10 of course)!

Anyhoo, still looking for prices here for the LL one. Suggestions?

13.3" screen: around £300-350 as it's a celeron chip (not hyperthreaded so can't run VMs)
17" screen: around £400-500 (if ever became available - my preference).

I just looked up the spec for the celeron CPU - RAM looks expandable to 8GB ...
See  https://ark.intel.com/products/95596/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N3450-2M-Cache-up-to-2_2-GHz

[TheDead]

@Jerry and @Ottawagrant
I found what seems the same laptop pictures by Jerry in Canada, at about 379$CAD (64G), but this one has 6GB RAM instead of 4.
From the specs tho, the hard drive is EMMC. From the forum threads, it seems this could mean having to use UEFI. (?).
I don't have this kind of laptop at hand, but if I come accross one at work, I'll try the LL4.0b on it.

Cheers!

[WytWun]

Just a couple of observations from local pricing (from Officeworks in Australia):

• Lenovo Ideapad 120s: AU$400 (N3350/4GB RAM/64GB eMMC/14 in 1366x768/AC WiFi/1.44kg)
• Acer Swift 1 SF113: AU$500 (N3450/4GB RAM/64GB eMMC/13.3 in 1920x108 IPS/AC WiFi/1.3kg)

Both with Windows 10 Home of course.  The killer difference for both of these compared to what Jerry has found is the AC class WiFi, which is becoming useful as the 2.4GHz spectrum becomes very congested in heavily populated areas.  Unfortunately neither can be upgraded beyond 4GB RAM as far as I can determine  .

At AU$500 the Acer is potentially quite attractive to me personally (except that I already have my laptop needs covered for the moment with an older Acer 13.3" N2840 machine, which has a real SSD and 8GB of RAM to compensate for the anaemic CPU  though LL makes the most of it's performance).

My main LL machine is a J3455 equipped Intel NUC which has more than adequate performance for the lightweight desktop duties it performs; the N3450 seems to have performance within 10% of the J3455 in most assessments I've found so quite useful performance for the money.  Not a gaming machine or heavy video editing platform though...

2 spec items I think it would be useful to have clarified:

• weight
• RAM expansion capability

Gold can look tacky pretty quickly, stick with black or some dark colours.

+1

[Searchernow]

pricing:

I can't put a figure on it, but around 300 Euros could be good for a home use laptop.

Unless I'm being naive, the ethos of foss can carry through to hardware too, with reasonable mark-ups to pay staff. Many of the citizens of Richistan are actively destroying this world, then voting themselves 55Bn dollar bonuses (Musk). So good on LL crew for a donation-based OS and reasonably-priced laptops, and keeping greed out of it.

I presume they'll be sold locally, so here in Europe we'll pay vat anyway.

Gold can look tacky pretty quickly, stick with black or some dark colours, whatever the suppliers can do.

[Jerry]

At 999, the Manjaro laptop price is off the charts. Ours will be mid-spec for less than half that retail. they must be making 100's in profit from each one. Not good.
Anyhoo, still looking for prices here for the LL one. Suggestions?

[m654321]

Before asking what is a reasonable price, you need to state what the unique selling points of such a laptop are. The USPs will help determine the price.  For example (copied and pasted & v. slightly mofdified from eugen-b on a similar discussion on the Manjaro forum at
https://forum.manjaro.org/t/manjaro-spitfire-laptop-some-questions/43205/17):

• exclusivity, because there are not many items sold.
• It might get significant collectors value in the fututre.
• Linux compatibility is not a by-product of uncertain quality
• Linux compatibility is assured through extensive tests by real experts.
• You get extreme respect by LL community.
• I don’t know if it is in the terms of service, but if  one really has an issue, will the LL team spend time to help through a remote log in on your machine and see what’s wrong.

A great idea Jerry 
Cheers
Mike

[Jerry]

Thank you all for your answers to date