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Title: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 22, 2017, 02:51:31 AM
In Linux Lite 3.8, we will have our own Google Search home page.

The idea behind this is to try and pull in a little more ad revenue to help fund the project, whilst still giving a familiar search engine experience.

The link will be set as here - https://www.linuxliteos.com/search/ (https://www.linuxliteos.com/search/)

Please help to test this out, and if you have any suggestions, I'll certainly consider them.

(https://i.imgur.com/SbOLEE4.png)

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: bitsnpcs on October 22, 2017, 08:46:30 AM
@Jerry does it create revenue by searching, or only if the ad is clicked ?
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 22, 2017, 08:47:40 AM
Only if the ad is clicked.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: bitsnpcs on October 22, 2017, 08:50:28 AM
After clicking is there a duration to remain on the ad site so LL gets revenue, or it requires purchases on the ad site for LL to earn revenue ?
Is it only begin to raise revenue after LL 3.8 release, or using the link you provided in advance is working now for this.
Is working well, I tested it and had no problems.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 22, 2017, 08:56:16 AM
Just a click is sufficient.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: bitsnpcs on October 22, 2017, 08:57:07 AM
Okay thanks
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 22, 2017, 09:04:49 AM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jocklad on October 22, 2017, 09:08:16 AM
Changed my google search home to link.


Looking good.  :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: elelme on October 22, 2017, 10:08:00 AM
Me, too!  ;D
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 22, 2017, 10:08:10 AM
Changed my google search home to link.


Looking good.  :)

Thanks :)
Keep in mind folks, that there is no auto-complete. I've spent nearly all day researching this, and people are saying it's flakey.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Artim on October 22, 2017, 10:50:57 AM
I'll use it but I wish it was DuckDuckGo or Searx or one of those privacy-respecting search engines instead.  But I'll use it periodically to help Linux Lite!
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: newtusmaximus on October 22, 2017, 01:47:24 PM
Now as default search. :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Moltke on October 22, 2017, 02:03:07 PM
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In Linux Lite 3.8, we will have our own Google Search home page

What does this exactly mean? I use google as my search engine in Opera. Is this to be on Firefox? In LL 3.8?

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The idea behind this is to try and pull in a little more ad revenue to help fund the project

I see no ads. What ads are those? Do I have to turn adblock off?

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Keep in mind folks, that there is no auto-complete

I do have auto-complete, but then like I said is my primary search engine so I don't know if that's the reason why. Should I try this on Firefox? Best of luck by the way on this new enterprise! :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 22, 2017, 09:18:21 PM
@Moltke It's a Google powered search engine so yes, you will get the same results as if you had set your home page to Google. This will be in Firefox in 3.8
Adblock has to be off, then there will be ads at the top. You can try it on any browser you like.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 23, 2017, 01:12:19 AM
After clicking is there a duration to remain on the ad site so LL gets revenue, or it requires purchases on the ad site for LL to earn revenue ?
Is it only begin to raise revenue after LL 3.8 release, or using the link you provided in advance is working now for this.
Is working well, I tested it and had no problems.

Duration - there is no duration. Revenue started the moment I uploaded the Search page. I would ask people not to click on an ad unless it specifically interests them.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 23, 2017, 01:15:00 AM

Suggestion -
on left of posts in forum, for user infos, lower (central approx.) is "Reputation" under it there are icons, some do go externally eg; website, blogs, I suggest an icon in this row, maybe nearest to the post wording (right end of row)  to click for using the LL search.

You may have to re-word this, I'm finding it difficult to understand. May I also suggest that you create an entirely new post if you have any new comments, if you re-edit an existing one, I may miss it altogether. Thank you :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Vera on October 23, 2017, 05:37:37 AM
I was a little confused as I expected the Google Search to only search within Linux Lite, but it didn't. In any case it looks fine. When you mean it's the home page for LL 3.8, do you mean it's the browser home page? If so then I think that will work out fine without causing any confusion about what it's supposed to search for.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 23, 2017, 05:44:44 AM
@Vera the approach was to make the home page look as familiar to Google search users as possible so that hopefully, there would be no confusion as to its purpose.
Yes, I mean the browser home page. Cheers :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Vera on October 23, 2017, 06:04:45 AM
Thanks @Jerry for clarifying. Yes I think there will be no confusion if it's to be set as the browser home page like you mentioned.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Moltke on October 23, 2017, 07:59:05 AM
@Moltke It's a Google powered search engine so yes, you will get the same results as if you had set your home page to Google. This will be in Firefox in 3.8
Adblock has to be off, then there will be ads at the top. You can try it on any browser you like.

Hi @Jerry
Thanks for the clarifying, but I'm still I bit confused about how this works, I mean, I want to help by clicking those ads and as long as I don't have to buy anything, but I see none, and yes I turned adblock off. Let me see if I get it right; if I click on this link https://www.linuxliteos.com/search/  am I supposed to see any ads?
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 23, 2017, 09:00:42 AM
Ads appear once you enter some search criteria on our Search page, but please don't click on the ads for the sake of supporting. That could get me in a world of trouble for click fraud and cost me my Adsense account, jeopardizing the continuation of this project and community. Of course I appreciate all your support.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: bitsnpcs on October 23, 2017, 09:51:00 AM

Suggestion -
on left of posts in forum, for user infos, lower (central approx.) is "Reputation" under it there are icons, some do go externally eg; website, blogs, I suggest an icon in this row, maybe nearest to the post wording (right end of row)  to click for using the LL search.

You may have to re-word this, I'm finding it difficult to understand. May I also suggest that you create an entirely new post if you have any new comments, if you re-edit an existing one, I may miss it altogether. Thank you :)

(https://preview.ibb.co/fQZKbR/forum.png)

Suggestion -

1 - on left of posts (posts area is #1 in pic)
2 - user infos #2 in pic
3 - lower (central approx.) is "Reputation", #3 in pic
4 - below (lower down) "Reputation" under it there are icons, some do go externally eg; website, blogs, see #4 in pic.
If the Planet Earth icon amongst these is click it goes externally (out of the page to another page) eg; it will go to https://www.linuxliteos.com/
5 - I suggest an icon in this row, at position #5 in pic, at the right end of the row of icons.
6 - I mean an icon for people to click to visit and use the LL Search.
(https://ibb.co/bRNSVm)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 23, 2017, 10:05:07 AM
@bitsnpcs I am unsure how this is related to the Search page.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: bitsnpcs on October 23, 2017, 10:09:54 AM
@bitsnpcs I am unsure how this is related to the Search page.

It is describing placement of a navigation icon to reach the Search Page
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: bitsnpcs on October 23, 2017, 10:16:55 AM
moot
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Moltke on October 23, 2017, 10:26:46 AM
Ads appear once you enter some search criteria on our Search page, but please don't click on the ads for the sake of supporting. That could get me in a world of trouble for click fraud and cost me my Adsense account, jeopardizing the continuation of this project and community. Of course I appreciate all your support.

Ok, got it! :) 
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: bitsnpcs on October 23, 2017, 10:30:58 AM
@bitsnpcs I am unsure how this is related to the Search page.
Does the info explain okay how the suggestion is related to the Search page ?
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: bitsnpcs on October 23, 2017, 10:41:40 AM
@bitsnpcs I am unsure how this is related to the Search page.

It is describing placement of a navigation icon to reach the Search Page

Suggesting the placement of icon, and suggesting its location at position #5 on the screenshot above.

Reasoning of position #5 =
1 - it is nearest to where the eyes are looking, when reading the forum posts, so is the best design placement to catch the eye, and create use of it.

2 - as the icons in row at position #4 in screenshot, are small discreet, other placements will make it "become losts", so it would become used less frequently etc.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 23, 2017, 11:15:09 AM
Updated page:

- Now should show your Country below the main top Google logo.
- 'Powered by Google' included (bottom)

Please let me know if it shows your correct country.

(https://i.imgur.com/W9tig5L.png)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jocklad on October 23, 2017, 11:22:56 AM
Yep.


Showing United Kingdom.  :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 23, 2017, 11:25:56 AM
@bitsnpcs I think I understand now. You want an icon on the Forum profile of a user to link to the Search page?
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: bitsnpcs on October 23, 2017, 11:42:18 AM
Working
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: bitsnpcs on October 23, 2017, 11:44:43 AM
@bitsnpcs I think I understand now. You want an icon on the Forum profile of a user to link to the Search page?

It is okay.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Vera on October 23, 2017, 12:45:10 PM
A few things:
1. Yes the LinuxLite search page now shows country correctly for the US.
2. Just an idea to consider: have you thought of changing the bit that says "Linux Lite Support" to "visit Linux Lite Support"? Either that, or have the "Linux Lite Support" link appear in the line ABOVE the gmail, image links etc. Otherwise as it stands now there is a small chance that people will expect the search box to limit the search to what appears directly above it, which would be Linux Lite Support.
3. Separately, regarding only the proposed idea of a link to search in forum profile, it's an interesting idea but I personally would find it confusing. Unless the link was labelled just "Google" or something like that, and even then, I'd be under the impression that clicking on it would search only the support forums and nothing else. If that is the function of the proposed link in forum profile (i.e. a Google search within the LL forum site only) that would be fine, but if it goes to a general google search the exact same as the browser home page for 3.8, then it would be confusing to me.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Moltke on October 23, 2017, 04:05:00 PM
Yes, working fine. It shows my country right bellow Google logo.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: TMG1961 on October 23, 2017, 04:27:45 PM
It shows Netherlands for me
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: bitsnpcs on October 23, 2017, 07:47:55 PM
Duration - there is no duration. Revenue started the moment I uploaded the Search page. I would ask people not to click on an ad unless it specifically interests them.

Thank You for answer.
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Artim on October 23, 2017, 09:04:35 PM
Mine shows the correct nation too.  To clarify for all.  Open a link to the Search page, then set it up in your browser as your "home page" or "start" page. 
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 23, 2017, 09:17:22 PM
For those in the US and UK, what is the exact wording of the Country shown please?
@Vera @bitsnpcs thank you for your feedback :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 23, 2017, 09:36:19 PM
@Vera upon reflection, you are right about repositioning 'Linux Lite Support'. I've chosen a better location.

(https://i.imgur.com/SbOLEE4.png)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jocklad on October 24, 2017, 02:29:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/v4uul24.png)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Jerry on October 24, 2017, 06:46:54 AM
Thanks Jocklad :)
Title: Re: Linux Lite 3.8 Home Page
Post by: Vera on October 24, 2017, 09:54:02 AM
@Jerry To answer your question, for the US the exact wording I'm seeing is "United States".

Thanks also for re-positioning the Linux Lite Support link. I like it even better where you put it than what I suggested.