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Title: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: TMG1961 on April 09, 2017, 03:29:38 AM
Today i got 2 mails that a reply was made on a topic i was watching. hen i clicked on the link in the mail i got the following message:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /forums/other/windows-opened-not-appearing-in-the-center/new/ on this server.
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

I got the message from both links. I was logged in to the forum. I managed to get in after closing windows and trying again.
Not sure what the problem is but i had it before. Thought i just report it this time.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: Jerry on April 09, 2017, 03:42:51 AM
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/on-topic/'403-forbidden-error'-message-when-posting-a-reply
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: TMG1961 on April 09, 2017, 03:50:14 AM
Thanks for your reply Jerry. But i didnt have the problem posting something, i got the message when i used the links in a email to get to the topics and read your replies.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: Jerry on April 09, 2017, 03:52:32 AM
Please copy and paste the entire email here. What email client?
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: TMG1961 on April 09, 2017, 03:57:48 AM
I use thunderbird 45.7.0 I got two emails this morning.

email1:
A reply has been posted to a topic you are watching by Jerry.

View the reply at: https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/index.php?topic=3555.new;topicseen#new (https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/index.php?topic=3555.new;topicseen#new)

Unsubscribe to this topic by using this link: https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/index.php?action=notify;topic=3555.0 (https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/index.php?action=notify;topic=3555.0)

More replies may be posted, but you won't receive any more notifications until you read the topic.

Regards,
The Linux Lite Forums Team.


email2:
A reply has been posted to a topic you are watching by Jerry.

View the reply at: https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/index.php?topic=4066.new;topicseen#new (https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/index.php?topic=4066.new;topicseen#new)

Unsubscribe to this topic by using this link: https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/index.php?action=notify;topic=4066.0 (https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/index.php?action=notify;topic=4066.0)

More replies may be posted, but you won't receive any more notifications until you read the topic.

Regards,
The Linux Lite Forums Team.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: Jerry on April 09, 2017, 04:17:58 AM
I can't replicate this. All I can suggest is you clear cache and cookies in your browser and try again.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: TMG1961 on April 09, 2017, 04:33:41 AM
I can't replicate this. All I can suggest is you clear cache and cookies in your browser and try again.

I just got 2 emails. One about the ove of my post and one for your reply.
The link in the email with your reply worked without a problem.
The link in the email about moving my post gave me the same error again.

I cleared browser cache, closed browser but same problem.
When i try a second time it opens the link without a problem.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: rokytnji on April 09, 2017, 10:15:02 AM
I'd disable my addons and then try again. I found once

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-html5/

Killed sound in html5 for me in youtube videos so i uninstalled it. Running Firefox in safe mode with addons disabled helped me trouble shoot that.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: TMG1961 on April 09, 2017, 11:55:56 AM
I'd disable my addons and then try again. I found once

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-html5/

Killed sound in html5 for me in youtube videos so i uninstalled it. Running Firefox in safe mode with addons disabled helped me trouble shoot that.

I disabled my addons but didnt work. I only get that message when trying to visit this topic via the link in the email
When i go to the forum and then enter the topic all works fine, also no problems when i copy/paste the link in email.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: bitsnpcs on April 09, 2017, 07:22:42 PM
I have the same error occur in Thunderbird.
Same, I receive an email saying there is a reply to your post , clicking the link makes the forbidden error.
Logging in to the forum from browser then I dont get the error, its only from the links in email, so I dont click them now just use browser and visit the forum , I treat the email as the notification and not the link etc.

Also get errors this week a few times when trying to open a thread on forum, error about the server exceeding its usage limits, to try again later.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: Coastie on April 09, 2017, 07:44:48 PM
I occasionally have this problem too. I just ignore it and go back to Thunderbird and click on the link again and it works the second time.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: bitsnpcs on April 09, 2017, 08:33:37 PM
Thanks Coastie :)
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: Jerry on April 09, 2017, 11:01:08 PM
Are you folks always logged into the Forum? Or do you login only when you need to?
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: Coastie on April 09, 2017, 11:55:20 PM
I only log in when necessary. I thought I was suppose to log in and out. I guess I don't understand always logged in. :-\
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: banko on April 10, 2017, 02:03:21 AM
I'm always logged in  :)

Keith.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: TMG1961 on April 10, 2017, 03:27:58 AM
99% of the time i am always logged in.
But i noticed strange thing. When my browser is closed and i use the link then i get the forbidden message. But when my browser is already opened then it works fine and i get to the page. Tried this in firefox and palemoon and in bth its the same.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: Jerry on April 10, 2017, 03:53:52 AM
99% of the time i am always logged in.
But i noticed strange thing. When my browser is closed and i use the link then i get the forbidden message. But when my browser is already opened then it works fine and i get to the page. Tried this in firefox and palemoon and in bth its the same.

I tried this and the links worked fine. This is a tricky one  ???
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: TMG1961 on April 10, 2017, 04:00:06 AM
I find it strange too, why would it work when the browser is already open and when its closed i get the error message.
Its not a big deal, can live with it, just keeps me wondering what the problem is that is causing this behaviour
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: bitsnpcs on April 10, 2017, 09:27:35 AM
Are you folks always logged into the Forum? Or do you login only when you need to?
Hello Jerry,
I am only logged in to the forum when I am actively using it, I didn't want to waste forum resources etc.
The error does not occur when I am logged in.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: Coastie on April 10, 2017, 03:01:00 PM
Didn't log out last night. Just closed Firefox and shut down computer. Same message today.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: Jerry on April 11, 2017, 09:32:36 AM
The mystery continues...

(https://img.memesuper.com/6cb5887cf03b1022aba66c1a7d60177e_-chicken-detective-meme-detective_625-431.jpeg)
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: bitsnpcs on April 11, 2017, 09:21:06 PM
Lol easter meme.

Can it be the firewall, deny all outgoing rules, it thinks the clicked link is outgoing not from the owner, that it is a auto clicks/like malware email as the link is going out from email client.
So it is making a protection by stopping it going to the link ?
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: TMG1961 on April 12, 2017, 03:23:48 AM
But how do you explain then that when i click the link in the notification email for this topic and my browser is closed i get the forbidden message, but when a browser window is open it opens the topic without any problems and no forbidden message
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: bitsnpcs on April 12, 2017, 10:14:18 AM
Hello,

I am just thinking it may be this, an idea/theory.

When the browser is open it may interpret that as you are active and clicked the link, similar to surfing web.

When the browser is closed it may think it is a malware/similar in an email link as it knows the browser is not "actively" being used, or open, as the port is not open for the browser in addition to it not running, that is - the link is trying to exit your computer by "opening the browser and the port".

Firewalls need to make the rules for any programs you need to open ports access internet/leave the computer /send infos, example you add an exception for a program, automatically it adds an exception for the browser so it can be used, this may not include from inside a message of the email ?
Just an idea really, I dont know about firewalls on Linux.

Example - browser it can using port 80, 8080 etc and others.
Email it can using port 300 range 3nn, and 900 range 9nn and others.

You click browser it opens eg port 8080 from "direct input" clicks or terminal.
Email opens a link, then it means port 9nn access tries to open port 8080, is can be interpreted that way, by a some firewalls similar to like probing/port scan accessing, and the over strict rules it will block coz of that.

Next example think from opposite direction , how I come to above idea -
how it is used by a rogue ones -

1/ malware it opens the browser port such as like it steals clock cycles for reselling that of processing large volume datas, /virtual datacentre sold processing/tasks to businesses who dont have that system big enough, is one of biggest ways how malware making money.
Some do volunteer to give away spare clock cycles like to the space camp type projects.

2/ trojan it has the callback address, some it dont try to open the port to callback, instead it waits until you or I open the port for it, eg we open the browser, then in the background it uses the open port to callback.

3/ media player, it can open links if you embed that in video, it can open the webpage so the person sees that, or it can do that in the background.
Example, someone predator then maybe play video or game, in background it goes with standard browser not tor, til the landing page, at the landing page, it records the ip address, os infos, and system specs.

1 thru 3 that is old methods, okay for examples, most AV and firewall block that, eg not to post how to's for that.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: TMG1961 on April 12, 2017, 11:50:53 AM
@bitsnpcs
Thanks for the explanation of your thoughts/idea/theory.
Title: Re: Got a forbidden message from forum
Post by: bitsnpcs on April 12, 2017, 05:06:35 PM
@TMG1961  you are welcome  :)