Browsers in Lite

[tek10]

I still use Firefox as my primary browser, as I've done for many years. I've been testing Qupzilla and Vivaldi. The more I use Vivaldi, the more I like it! The same primary add-ons I use in Firefox are available in Vivaldi and it's nicely customized in ways Firefox isn't. Much of the time it seems faster to me as well, but I haven't actually tested that in a verifiable way.

I have tried to use Midori but it crashes often enough to prevent regular use of it.

[Paul74]

Hello,

I mainly use Qupzilla, good speed on my very old HP Pavilion aving a P4 processor, 2 GB of RAM.
I also use Opera for its built-in VPN.

[Cedarviola]

I miss Netscape.

Recall a great joke from SNL announcing a merger between Netscape and Yahoo. They are gonna call it Netanyahu!

Have used FF for years but with the upcoming 57 update, never mind. Got the beta and it's ugly -- all W10 Flatland style. Pale Moon is my new best friend. It was a reaction to Australis.

Jim

[bitsnpcs]

@Coastie Thank You for the info about Firefox Quantum  it sounds good, hopefully it will work how you need it to.
I look forward to reading your feedback on how it goes, it will be a good test for it.

[Coastie]

@bitsnpcs, no change after update. Maybe Firefox Quantum http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/quantum/ which comes out Nov 14 will. Claims to be 2 X faster than from last year's Firefox and use 30% less memory than Chrome.

[bitsnpcs]

A new Firefox updates pack came down in LL Install Updates for me about 1 hours ago, maybe these have something for your needs ?

[Coastie]

Thanks for the suggestions but I have a bookmarks folder of active You Tube channels that do not have RSS feeds (in addition to the 40 I subscribe to by RSS with Thunderbird) that I check daily for new videos that I might want to watch. Since Chrome just asks if I am sure then opens them in tabs without any problems, I'll just use Chrome for You Tube. Maybe a newer version of Firefox will be able to handle it.

[bitsnpcs]

Yea, 19 is a lot but it is simpler than subscribing to the ones that don't have an RSS feed. That is the most interesting way I have found to educate myself on Linux. Maybe I am asking a lot of Firefox but it just slows down SeaMonkey and does cause any problems with Chrome. Chrome just asks me if I am sure I want to open that many. 

It is possible to make a playlist on YouTube and click any videos to add them to the playlist, you can also edit their position in the list to produce a desired learning order.
You can make your playlist public, or you can choose to keep it private, either when creating or at any time later.
You do not need to subscribe to the channels of any videos added to your playlists.
When searching and undecided yet if you wish to add them to the playlist, you can choose "watch later" it adds them to the watch later playlist, until decided/sorted.
You can make many playlists for different areas of learning in Linux, and name them how you see fit, with a description that is useful.

[TheDead]

Even on newer hardware I do not open 19 YouTube pages at a time, expecially since YouTube now does a bunch of background stuff.
Maybe some browser stock scripts when windows are minimized, this would explain different behaviors.
Heck, depending on content, even 25-30 "normal" pages can make my "High-end" PC work in Lag-O-Rama.

Anyways... I would suggest opening ONE YouTube windows and bookmark other using the a bookmark-folder named "! - Things to view" (with an exclamation mark in front so it's at the top in alphabetical order). Thats zero resources on any PC.

Cheers!

[Coastie]

Yea, 19 is a lot but it is simpler than subscribing to the ones that don't have an RSS feed. That is the most interesting way I have found to educate myself on Linux. Maybe I am asking a lot of Firefox but it just slows down SeaMonkey and does cause any problems with Chrome. Chrome just asks me if I am sure I want to open that many. 

[smhardesty]

19 YouTube pages, holy cow! That's a very demanding load on a browser.

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Ditto

[Jerry]

19 YouTube pages, holy cow! That's a very demanding load on a browser.

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[Coastie]

Don't know what my CPU speed is but when I open together 18 or 19  Linux related You Tube pages, Firefox locks up due to a scrips problem. SeaMonkey doesn't lock up but is much slower than Chrome which doesn't lock up.

[trinidad]

Just to add one comment, to this discussion. When it comes to Firefox, CPU speed appears to be more important than RAM in my experience. I have a 12year old 32bit HP box that I use for testing and some building of 32bit applications and programs. I now run three HDDs on it using a Sisun mechanical drive switcher. I have 32bit LL 3.6 on an old 80g 5400 drive on this box with a completely updated system and Firefox. I have zRAM enabled. The board only has 1gig of RAM. I can watch you tube video and open other tabs at the same time and the RAM usage never exceeds 700Mb. I also run conky at the same time with 11 functions running. The CPU is very fast as this was a high end machine I purchased new with a 3Ghz CPU. During heavy load the CPU spikes at about 97% but the RAM usage rarely exceeds 600Mb. I know it is a rare machine, a 64bit capable CPU on a 32bit MOBO but it clearly indicates that CPU speed is more important than RAM to Firefox. Firefox is slowly outgrowing older slower CPUs and MOBOs with slower bus speeds but older machines with fast CPUs will continue to work just fine. I have another 32bit laptop machine with again an odd duck CPU 2.4Ghz Celeron and 2G RAM that behaves in the same way, about 1G of RAM usage with heavy load though it spikes the CPU more often. I only keep old computers that have fast CPUs. I work on many newer boxes that cannot function as well with Firefox. In 64bit even with good standard 4G RAM the older 1G up to 2G CPUs have slow downs and long CPU spikes with Firefox now. I have had some success with 32bit PAE kernels on a few slower native 64bit ASUS boxes.

TC       

[Searchernow]

Thanks to all contributors here, a very civilized forum, but I particularly note TheDead's point and I believe that LL is aimed at Windows users looking for a way into Linux that doesn't require a knowledge of (nor indeed a lack of fear of) command line use etc.

Here is the link to LL project leader Jerry's s statement, which was the clincher for me in choosing LL
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/linux-lite-software-development/my-problems-with-linux-lite-so-far-a-brief-summary-of-problems-linux-lite-has/15/

I copy here (my post from another thread) what I did re getting back to normal re updating and software installation, (I meant EFF, Electronic Frontier Foundation, not EF as I wrote):


"I took my own advice, being in a hurry, and tried Systemback to two earlier restore points, but it didn't restore the lost functionality.

I used my original usb live and re-installed the OS, used bluetooth from phone hotspot to get online and load all updates, installed wifi driver, then I saw upgrade to LL 3.6 offered so I did that. I was happy enough to re-install (this time) and I had earlier cleaned out my Firefox of all add-ons except two from EF:. https and badger, the latter incidentally blocks most ads. Other add-ons create malware vulnerabilities with their system permissions.

I ran Home folder restore which restored Firefox and Thunderbird settings and content.

Again - this is a superb OS, especially for a Windows refugee like me. I will copy an ISO of my customized install when ready to USB for future emergencies, plus create another more generic install on another pc and copy ISO of that for others if they want."


Anyway, I think for me I will be playing it safe for now and just using what is in the Synaptic Package Manager, or advised in the excellent Help Manual. I have made Firefox more secure now so I will stay with it. Who knows what I'll be using next year.