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General => On Topic => Topic started by: m654321 on July 21, 2019, 04:17:40 AM
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I was just thinking, that when the Win7 end-of-life comes in January 2020, this may be followed by a flood of used laptops for sale, as many are unlikely to be upgradeable to Win10. Hopefully, this will mean rich pickings for those in search of a good deal for an inexpensive laptop for a Linux Lite setup ... 8)
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This is the main reason we use LiLi on refurb computers... a lot less drivers headaches ;)
Most problems I had were with the W10 graphics drivers. Farther second place, the network drivers. Audio third.
That is with a "fresh install". Upgrades will sometimes migrate stuff and keep them working but I don't like to keep old "baggage" so prefer clean installs.
Also, the installers are frequently problematic and don't work in W10. (from Vista/W7).
Oh, and it could "work" in W10 but with "Standard VGA Adapter" drivers, with little resolution/display options and no 3D acceleration or OpenGL, etc.
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I was just thinking, that when the Win7 end-of-life comes in January 2020, this may be followed by a flood of used laptops for sale, as many are unlikely to be upgradeable to Win10. Hopefully, this will mean rich pickings for those in search of a good deal for an inexpensive laptop for a Linux Lite setup ... 8)
I have already bought too many laptops for dirt cheap prices like 20$ or less. Some problems one with 10 minutes lasting battery second without hard disk and lack of basic parts. Easy to find working HDD or battery if needed. Installed newest linux lite to 64bit ones and 3.8 to 32 bit ones. Now the only problem is that I have no use for too many computers.
Can not understand why people don't simply install free better OS when computer gets slow and old to run windows
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I have yet to find a computer running Windows 7 that wouldn't run Windows 10 free upgrade and have done several myself to sell although not a Windows user.
We have three laptops, i.e. Asus X71Q, Samsung N145P & Dell Latitude D630 (see signature below) that have all run Win7 in the past, but are not fully upgradable to Win10. The reason is that key drivers are not available to download for Win10, from their respective support pages. Without these, you are very limited in what you can do, e.g. missing printer drivers, etc.
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Did you actually do the Windows 10 upgrade or did you just look for driver support on the laptops website.
At the time, I did both, though I don't think it was the direct free upgrade route from Win7. If I remember correctly it was a fresh install, from a downloaded Win10 iso file from Microsoft's website.
You'll see from the footnote that our Dell D630 is a LL/Win8.1 dual-boot. I did a bit of a cheat with that one: when my i7 Asus gaming laptop died, I removed it's fully-updated LL/Win8.1 SSD and put it directly into the 12-year-old Dell. The result made me laugh in disbelief, as it worked straight away, and continues to do all the regular Microsoft updates & patches! It's funny, as the Dell Latitude D630's last set of downloadable drivers on their support pages was for Windows Vista. Also, the software apps I had on the i7-Asus seem to continue to work well on the Dell.
If I could sell Linux computers I'd be selling Linux computers however I can't even give a Linux computer away people want Windows 10 computers and not Linux computers. Sad isn't it.
Yes it's very sad, as they would save a lot of wasted time and money in the long-run. I think it's largely down to education. If you're brought up with Windows, used Windows through school & at work etc, and almost every computer sold comes installed with Windows, it's difficult to break the mindset, especially if you're a person (like most people) who don't particularly enjoy pottering around and experimenting with computer technology, or have the confidence to do so. I think these are the main reasons that only 3% of computer-users use Linux.
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If you are really wanting Windows 10 it's worth trying imo regardless of the outcome.
I don't like Windows OS - one of the main reasons is its security flaws (particularly in Win10) that Quidsup has described in detail on his YouTube channel. I have dual-booted LL with Win8.1, only because it allows me to do things that are very tricky or impossible to do in Linux, e.g. my daughter loves playing Roblox - there isn't any Linux version of this game.
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... Now the only problem is that I have no use for too many computers.
Gee I wish I could wiggle my nose and have this issue (too many older laptop computers) available to me IN South Africa while I'm there!
I agree, if people unfamiliar with Linux realized what their old computers could do running Linux they might have a much longer life with them. It's a shame to see what people get rid of although on the other hand it allows them to pass them along to me to "live another life" in South Africa ;) Now physically getting them there is another issue since there is only so much luggage space, at least my husband has stopped complaining about both the weight and how many I am packing ;D
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It's a shame to see what people get rid of although on the other hand it allows them to pass them along to me to "live another life" in South Africa ;) Now physically getting them there is another issue since there is only so much luggage space, at least my husband has stopped complaining about both the weight and how many I am packing ;D
At the help center I work with, I often see a bunch of famillies get together and arrange for a container to be shipped to South Africa.
Don't know if it's feasible for you guys but it looks like a good idea. But, maybe it's complicated legal-wise... I dunno I've never done it myself. :-S
Imagine how many computers you could put in there ;)).