"Lubuntu might be the best Linux distro for Windows XP users"

[N4RPS]

Hello!

Again, Welcome to Linux Lite.

You install Lubuntu, then you need Thunar (or to patch PCManFM to allow root access), add Pulse Audio to properly handle Bluetooth, then add a few more essentials, All of a sudden, Lubuntu also becomes slow. I reserve it - well stripped, of course - for the slowest machines. Haven't tried 'stripping' LL yet; that's a future project...

73 DE N4RPS
Rob

[Snubbi]

Lite 2.2 is a LOT faster than Lubuntu 14.04 on my 7 years old computer

[Mike]

I usually direct people with REALLY old machines to LXLE. It's a pretty solid LXDE based distro with a great selection of software.

[N4RPS]

Hello!

LL2 is a LOT faster on this old soldier than the 1.08 it replaced. I just might try 2.0 on some of the other old stuff around here...

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Rob

[Dookus]

Hello!

(Compaq Evo N600c) has a P3M-1066 CPU, 512MB RAM

Last of the P3's were a better CPU than the P4's were for some time!

[N4RPS]

Hello!

The machine I'm on now (Compaq Evo N600c) has a P3M-1066 CPU, 512MB RAM, and LL 1.08 for now. I want to try 2.0 on it, and will keep that if performance doesn't take a huge hit, as Lubuntu doesn't seem to want to 'play nice' with the Bluetooth adapter (no Pulse audio, I guess).

With 1.08, as long as you don't try to do too much at once, you're OK...

73 DE N4RPS
Rob

[Dookus]

System:    Host: linuxlite-Inspiron-6000 Kernel: 3.13.0-24-generic i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.8.2)
           Desktop: Xfce 4.11.6 (Gtk 2.24.23) Distro: Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
Machine:   System: Dell product: Inspiron 6000
           Mobo: Dell model: N/A Bios: Dell version: A09 date: 09/28/2005
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium M (-UP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (nx pae sse sse2) bmips: 3191.96 clocked at 1600.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: [email protected]
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 10.1.0 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller
           driver: snd_intel8x0 ports: ed00 ec40 bus-ID: 00:1e.2
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-24-generic
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX driver: b44 ver: 2.0 bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection driver: ipw2200 ver: 1.2.2kmprq bus-ID: 03:03.0
           IF: eth1 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 40.5GB (9.0% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: Hitachi_HTS54104 size: 40.0GB temp: 32C
           2: USB id: /dev/sdb model: Cruzer_Micro size: 0.5GB temp: 0C
Partition: ID: / size: 37G used: 3.1G (9%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 0.53GB used: 0.02GB (3%) fs: swap
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 34.5C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 145 Uptime: 26 min Memory: 249.7/487.2MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.11) inxi: 1.9.17

[gold_finger]

Dookus,

Nice to hear LL works well on old test laptop.

Just out of my own curiousity, would you mind posting the specs of the laptop?  I like using the inxi terminal program to give good overall snapshot of specs.  If you don't already have it installed, do following and just paste output of last command back to forum.

To install it (in LL version 2.0):

Code: [Select]

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install inxi
To have it list specs of computer:

Code: [Select]

inxi -Fxz

[Dookus]

I take back my previous statement, Lubuntu may boot faster (considerably) on older hardware, but that's where any benefit ends! ... Lubuntu is sluggish, LL2 on the old laptop I have been trialling light weight Linux distros on is the fastest once at the GUI, and the most attractive, best supported and least problematic than anything this old thing has had running on it, Crunch Bang used the least resources, but was even slower to respond than Lubuntu ... every LLx release it has had on it has shone ... and I tried a plethora of flavours!, there are some flaky woeful offerings out there sadly!

[eightbit]

I would not recommend any LXDE distro for a new person coming from Windows XP for a few reasons, but one primarily is LXPanel. Its a pain in the rear to add items, and God forbid you remove something. I am not a noob in any sense of the word, and even I have had bouts with LXPanel that I could not resolve. XFCE is the way to go for a nice stable panel with ease of use that even a new user coming from XP will have no problem with.

[Dookus]

Yup ... Lubuntu is basic, it is fast though, I do use it over LL on the slowest laptop here, I much prefer Linux Lite, LL is better used on at least later model Core Solo or faster with at least a gig ram in my experience

[N4RPS]

Hello!

There was a time when *I* used to think that, too. Lubuntu brought me an experience that was the most uniform over a wide variety of installation environments. EVERYTHING seemed to work EVERYWHERE. I miss the configurability of Openbox Configuration Manager and the look of the Clearlooks 3.4 theme. Might try playing around with Openbox on LL.

Lubuntu was nice while it lasted, but upgrading every six months WAS a *REAL* DRAG, LL DOES run FASTER than a comparable Lubuntu system, and I SURE don't miss Abiword, Gnumeric, Osmo, and the Chromium browser!

That particular reviewer must not be aware of the fact that after 14.04, Lubuntu faces an uncertain future, at best. This is the WORST possible time for anyone to push people that way. They'd just be changing to something else again, and sooner than later...

73 DE N4RPS

[Teddy]

Well said Teddy5090! The only word I could think of for Lubuntu was boring.

Yes! Agreed. Very boring and plain.

[Coastie]

Well said Teddy5090! The only word I could think of for Lubuntu was boring.

[Teddy]

I've sent a tip to review Linux Lite to the main editor and writer of OMG! Ubuntu!. Hopefully he will respond to my request to review Linux Lite, but considering he didn't respond whatsoever to my last one of a application review, I doubt it. Who knows.

As far as Lubuntu is concerned, it is definitely not as feature packed as Linux Lite, but it is lighter than Linux Lite, but that is really the only advantage to Lubuntu. Linux Lite provides the best balance between usability and lightness, while Lubuntu is too light, and too unusable out of the box. That is really all I have to say.

One more thing: I agree that these authors are not aware of Linux Lite, but even so, it is their opinion on the subject. Also, take a look at the quote you posted. "Lubuntu might be the best Linux distro for Windows XP users". Technically, the quote specifically says that Lubuntu Might be the best. Never said it was the absolute best. Just something to point out.

EDIT: The main editor of OMG! Ubuntu! did respond back to me about Linux Lite. See the "Good News from OMG! Ubuntu!" thread for more details in the "Suggestions and Feedback" Section of the forum.