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Title: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: Jocklad on November 06, 2017, 07:10:29 AM
Just acquired a Zoostorm desktop, the owner was going to throw it out.


All it needed was a good cleanout and the Ram reseated.


Installing LL 3.6 on it now..... 8) .
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: newtusmaximus on November 06, 2017, 07:55:26 AM
How much RAM did it have.?
For most PC users, they have no idea what goes on under the bonnet, in fact they are afraid that they might "hurt" themselves or similar.   They also have little knowledge on how to "service" their OS -. 

Unfortunately we live in a throw away society. caught up in the ever bigger ever better treadmill, controlled by the Chip/OS industry.  I dread to think of how much perfectly good hardware is  sent to landfill , as it is deemed to be out of date or drivers are no longer available.   The problem has been further magnified, by the mobile phone craze and the fact that these tablets are not build with easily replaceable batteries, and charging ports that are easily broken.

Fortunately you were able to retrieve it.

I seriously believe that basic linux should be taught in schools, carrying on from the rasberry Pi initiative.  Basic ability to  code and understand the thought processes behind algorithms, should be the new "Latin", o the new "chess".

Assembling / fault finding on PCs etc should be the new "car mechanics"

My </RANT> over :)
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: Jocklad on November 06, 2017, 08:01:28 AM


It has one stick of 4G Ram installed.


It is a 64 bit system,so I think it will take at least 8G.


Will check the Motherboard Manual.  :)
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: newtusmaximus on November 06, 2017, 08:05:43 AM
meaning?
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: Jocklad on November 06, 2017, 08:13:08 AM
meaning?

Sorry about that.
The text on that Post went Haywire Newtusmaximus.
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: newtusmaximus on November 06, 2017, 08:24:44 AM
No need for apologies :) thought I was missing something.  The beauty of forums such as this one, is that there is always something new to learn from others!!

One stick of 4GB!! heavens sake , how much RAM could it take??
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: Jocklad on November 06, 2017, 08:48:53 AM
Just checked the Motherboard Manual.


It can take 16GB.
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: Jocklad on November 06, 2017, 10:53:23 AM
Up and running on Linux Lite 3.6  :)


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Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: newtusmaximus on November 06, 2017, 06:49:47 PM
What are you going to do with it?  retire your older one?, any changce you can use some of the other ram you have??
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: Jocklad on November 07, 2017, 05:30:01 AM
What are you going to do with it?  retire your older one?, any changce you can use some of the other ram you have??

Not sure yet, may just keep it for beta testing ect.

Will have to check the RAM type but am pretty sure it is DDR3 which is what is in my other three desktops.
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: newtusmaximus on November 07, 2017, 08:11:44 AM
How many Desktops???  How do you find the space?      They do make good air filters though :) 
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: Artim on November 08, 2017, 04:47:15 AM
This really is awesome fun.  I've "inherited" a few throw-aways, loaded them with Linux Lite 3.6 (modified with some of Ralphy's awesome tools (http://unlockforus.com), and donated them to some church schools near me.  When 32-bit loses support, well, maybe there will still be something some of them they can run, but nothing as simple and effortless as LL.  I'm still running an ancient Dell Dimension desktop on LL3.6 32-bit.  It's at least 15 years old and still not ready for the landfill, thanks to Linux Lite!
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: newtusmaximus on November 08, 2017, 05:06:08 AM
I  again did a quick search of the LL database for "32 bit" =  circa 50% of the approx 9000 entries were 32bit.  When UBUNTU  ( shortly? ) ditches 32 bit development, that will be a lot of LL users leaving the fold. if their kit can not use 64bit.  They being probably not Linux proficient will be left to their own devices.

This forum is geared to the "newbie", as is LL  hence I hope a way can be found to keep the two together (Jerry? :) )   I have raised this question else where.
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: MohamedKhaled on November 08, 2017, 05:32:57 AM
I seriously believe that basic Linux should be taught in schools,

correct ... we learn Linux in schools in Egypt ... 2 hours a week
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: torreydale on November 08, 2017, 01:10:43 PM
@newtusmaximus ,


I thought Ubuntu said 18.04 would be the last for 32-bit support.  If that's changed and 16.04 is the last, that means support for 32-bit will end in April 2021, which is still 3.5 years away.  I think any "problem" noticed then will be as inconsequential as Y2k.
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: newtusmaximus on November 08, 2017, 03:05:09 PM
torreydale

@newtusmaximus ,


I thought Ubuntu said 18.04 would be the last for 32-bit support.  If that's changed and 16.04 is the last, that means support for 32-bit will end in April 2021, which is still 3.5 years away.  I think any "problem" noticed then will be as inconsequential as Y2k.

Is that on the basis of 32 bit hardware will no longer being used anyway.?? i.e broken, not functional,  as opposed to not supported by  OS.
Title: Re: The Stuff People Throw Away......
Post by: TheDead on November 21, 2017, 08:00:20 PM
I seriously believe that basic Linux should be taught in schools,
correct ... we learn Linux in schools in Egypt ... 2 hours a week

Wow! Just reading some post of last week and read this! That is so cool! ;)
Our school district is stuck with the two typical Billionaires OS's! Last time they tried something else, it was IBM's OS/2... sad!